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Advice sought - Hybrid/EV or stick with petrol/diesel?

  • 14-01-2021 11:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭


    Hi all, new on here after following the threads for a few months, very eager to hear the thoughts of the motoring experts and fanatics on here! :D

    I currently drive a 2011 VW Golf 1.6 TDI Match BlueMotion Tech - Bit of context:

    - I Bought it in Jan 2017 straight out of England with one owner, motorway miles, FSH etc. and I took it down to Dublin and got it VRT'd, Irish reg plates etc.
    - I reckon it's about 45mpg but more sometimes, quite economical IMO. I don't fill it up often, maybe once a month.
    - The car has 159K miles on it, or c. 255K km and NCT up to Nov 2021

    - Looking at donedeal, they're selling very well and I might get more than the €5k i'd hoped for.

    My circumstances are going to change.
    - I will be making a 220mile/355km round trip (110m e/way) to Dublin for work once a week, about a 2.5 hr drive each way, as I've bought a new home.
    43 miles of the first part of the journey is on main roads, single carriageway, 60mph speed limit. Then I hit the M1 motorway and it's 68 miles the whole way, M50 motorway with the last 2 miles into the city centre D4 office.

    - Outside of this, I will be working from home 3-4 days per week and the car will probably not move far some days as the new home is in a town, if it does, it will be less than 20km trip, (groceries, gym etc)
    Once a month at weekend, I'll make a 256 mile round trip/3hrs eway down to the in-laws. Maybe at the weekend we'll take a 40/50 mile journey once a month also.

    All in there, I don't know, you're probably looking at under 300 miles per week - 15,000 miles per year worst-case scenario.

    Now, I have looked at the eGolf, various PHEV's etc and I can't find anything that does more than 30 miles/50km on the electric charge, with petrol after that. I'll admit I do like looks, couldn't see me driving a BMW i3 or Nissan Leaf etc but economy and costs come first.

    Fully EV's - I do admit I have range anxiety and don't think an EV would be any good to me? the dublin office from what I can see has 2-3 plug in points, but usually occupied by top brass directors in their eRangeRover/eBMWs, so I'm not sure if i'd get a charging point in Dublin when I do that journey once per week, never mind a space in car park.

    I fully intend on getting the home charging point grant for the new home but that won;t be to April move in. IF I bother with a hybrid or EV at all.

    My budget- I wouldn't want to spend more than £400 per month on repayments, buying from UK and it will stay UK reg as home in NI/border.

    My dilemma is - should I just forget about hybrid/electric for now and buy a petrol/diesel that'll do me for another couple of years, until range becomes better on hybrids/BEV's?

    Partner also changing her car from 09 fiesta and will go finance also, we've no kids and won't have for couple years. Not as keen on taking out CU/Personal Loan etc , all my savings are tied up in deposit for new house. Can afford a new car on decent salary though, conscious my golf is 10 year old this November.

    I'm also open to being told to drive the current golf into the ground while it's giving no bother !! :D:D

    Only real option I've considered - 2018 VW golf 1.4TSI 8.7KwH GTE DSG - £16,900 / £232 per month, 16k miles on it, 30 mile range battery.
    Also looked at mercs etc closer to £400pm mark, would love a volvo XC40 SUV but out of my price range!!


    Thank you all in advance, look forward to hearing about past and current experiences.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The most sensible option is to service and maintain your Golf and keep it in good shape and use that.

    As with the Fiesta, theres no actual need to change up just because the car is x years old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,705 ✭✭✭User1998


    So basically you have a very long round trip once a week, and a few smaller journeys throughout the week?

    Here is a thread I started over a year ago about buying a Golf GTE. I’m now on my second GTE and its the best car I’ve owned. Its a 2017 mk7.5 advance model

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058020806/1/#post111438853

    I suppose a GTE would kind of suit you perfect. You would get around 50-55mpg on your long motorway run and the rest of your weekly driving could be done on electric. Its a nice motorway cruiser with adaptive cruise being a standard feature, and its very quiet and relaxing around town if your willing to charge it. Also 205 bhp when you need it

    I’d still agree with Colm and say that from a cost perspective the best thing to do would be to keep your current Golf, but if you just fancy a change then yeah, the GTE is a great car and I’d highly recommend one.

    But just to let you know, during winter with the heating on, you will struggle to get 20 miles from it, summer you should get 25-27 miles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The most sensible option is to service and maintain your Golf and keep it in good shape and use that.

    As with the Fiesta, theres no actual need to change up just because the car is x years old.

    Thanks Colm. Sound advice. I’m wondering will my golf depreciate I’m value rapidly once it goes past 10 year old and diesel and petrol cars begin to lose their value soon, but maybe not .

    My mechanic who I trust and have known locally for years told me that the golf will need new brake pads etc soon.

    But the main thing he said was that since I’ve took the car down to Dublin 3 years ago, it’s been doing very small, short journeys and on a few occasions it’s clogged up the particle filter or something (not sure if that’s correct) and you’d see clouded smoke the odd time. only twice I’ve had to take the car to the mechanic as it wasn’t firing properly, once on the M50 it just slowed down to 30mph was max I could do.

    2x Dublin mechanics warned me that if this were to properly clog it would need fully cleaned and would cost a fortune to take apart, not a clue if that’s accurate or scaremongering.

    Not sure if this is a big issue but at the minute it’s only getting onto the motorway once a month to do the 220mile round Trip and my mechanic said long term you’d be better off getting yourself a petrol or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    did you pay for it outright User1998 or through finance?
    And do you find you’ve gotten good savings ?
    I see the newest hybrid golf’s have a larger range but only upto 44 mile; not worth the extra money IMO for such a small range increase.

    Thanks for that I’m gonna look through your thread, if I haven’t already!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭jetfiremuck


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The most sensible option is to service and maintain your Golf and keep it in good shape and use that.

    As with the Fiesta, theres no actual need to change up just because the car is x years old.

    Spot on. A car is a depreciating asset. The reairs on the golf would be a months repayment on a new car. Best to save and bank the monthly repayment on the new car. Who knows whats going to happen employment wise in the next 18months. IMO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    Spot on. A car is a depreciating asset. The reairs on the golf would be a months repayment on a new car. Best to save and bank the monthly repayment on the new car. Who knows whats going to happen employment wise in the next 18months. IMO

    You've wised me up with that statement and put any excitement I had on the backburner!! :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,705 ✭✭✭User1998


    did you pay for it outright User1998 or through finance?
    And do you find you’ve gotten good savings ?
    I see the newest hybrid golf’s have a larger range but only upto 44 mile; not worth the extra money IMO for such a small range increase.

    Thanks for that I’m gonna look through your thread, if I haven’t already!

    Nha I didn’t finance mine. I spend very little on fuel because I charge the car every couple of days. Its a really good all rounder and I’d definitely recommend one if you are going to change, I came from a diesel mk7 Golf and they’re miles apart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Depreciation has levelled off on your car.

    I.e it’s worth small money whether or not there’s high mileage or if it’s a year or two older.

    Ref the DPF, your weekly trip to Dublin should be enough to keep it happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Depreciation has levelled off on your car.

    I.e it’s worth small money whether or not there’s high mileage or if it’s a year or two older.

    Ref the DPF, your weekly trip to Dublin should be enough to keep it happy.

    Thanks all. Still want a new car later in the year and have the disposable income to do so. Something even more economical and avail of the home charger scheme grant while it’s still out there, if either of us go for a hybrid or EV at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Casati


    Thanks all. Still want a new car later in the year and have the disposable income to do so. Something even more economical and avail of the home charger scheme grant while it’s still out there, if either of us go for a hybrid or EV at all

    I’d consider another diesel in your shoes. PHEV’s are better option south of border as they have v low VRT but in N.I or U.K you will pay a big premium over a diesel to buy one. With your driving I’d would think a diesel will be cheaper to run - especially if you can fill up south of the border.

    Personally having driven a long return trip to Dublin for work for a few years I’d hate to do it in a ten year old Golf and if you can afford the repayments I would move it on now before it starts costing you money and more importantly hassle. The DPF might need replacement even with your long trips due to the high mileage and it will set you back around a grand, but a Golf with 160k could see other expensive items need replacement - turbos are one item but aside from that suspension work might be needed.

    You have loads of options of good diesels that you’ll enjoy on the long drives - seeing as you like VW a Passat 2.0 TDI is a good option as they a good value used and buying a post 2017 ish you get tonnes of features inc adaptive cruise control which would be a real luxury for the long trips


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    Casati wrote: »
    I’d consider another diesel in your shoes. PHEV’s are better option south of border as they have v low VRT but in N.I or U.K you will pay a big premium over a diesel to buy one. With your driving I’d would think a diesel will be cheaper to run - especially if you can fill up south of the border.

    Personally having driven a long return trip to Dublin for work for a few years I’d hate to do it in a ten year old Golf and if you can afford the repayments I would move it on now before it starts costing you money and more importantly hassle. The DPF might need replacement even with your long trips due to the high mileage and it will set you back around a grand, but a Golf with 160k could see other expensive items need replacement - turbos are one item but aside from that suspension work might be needed.

    You have loads of options of good diesels that you’ll enjoy on the long drives - seeing as you like VW a Passat 2.0 TDI is a good option as they a good value used and buying a post 2017 ish you get tonnes of features inc adaptive cruise control which would be a real luxury for the long trips

    That's great advice Casati. I agree with you, I've driven the MK5, MK6 and MK7 as well as a Jetta (hated it) and while I've never ever *touch wood* had any major trouble, I would be of the same opinion that my 2011 MK6, with a big journey to Dublin every week could kick the bucket at some point. Or it could drive on even further to the 300K miles mark I'm sure some people will tell me on here, never had a car that old to be honest.

    Going by Donedeal down here, I'm fortunate that I went to the bother of getting VRT exempt when I brought it from UK, as it looks like it will sell well, it's UK spec and nicely finished. I only thought I'd get €5K but may be more, which will be nice for a deposit plus a few extra funds towards the new home.

    What's the outlook on diesels, buying one now are they still going to sell OK in a few years time say mid 2020s? Wouldn't want to pay for a newish post 2017/18 diesel now and for the ass to fall out of the price, but I suppose that's cars for you.

    That's the only reason I thought of a PHEV,is if I would see big cost savings, which I'm guessing I won't.

    When I'm looking at diesels on auto trader over the next while, is wanting above 50mpg realistic? I always check on autotrader specs/description, but I'm told these aren't always "real world" stats for mpg etc.

    Only other car I've driven bar VW is an Audi A3 and few family members have Mercedes C Classes and Fords. I'm guessing a BMW 3 or 5 series would be a good shout as it seems every professional working man in Ireland has one, very common, never cared much for BMW, test driven a few.

    Definitely open to driving something new.

    Thanks again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Casati


    That's great advice Casati. I agree with you, I've driven the MK5, MK6 and MK7 as well as a Jetta (hated it) and while I've never ever *touch wood* had any major trouble, I would be of the same opinion that my 2011 MK6, with a big journey to Dublin every week could kick the bucket at some point. Or it could drive on even further to the 300K miles mark I'm sure some people will tell me on here, never had a car that old to be honest.

    Going by Donedeal down here, I'm fortunate that I went to the bother of getting VRT exempt when I brought it from UK, as it looks like it will sell well, it's UK spec and nicely finished. I only thought I'd get €5K but may be more, which will be nice for a deposit plus a few extra funds towards the new home.

    What's the outlook on diesels, buying one now are they still going to sell OK in a few years time say mid 2020s? Wouldn't want to pay for a newish post 2017/18 diesel now and for the ass to fall out of the price, but I suppose that's cars for you.

    That's the only reason I thought of a PHEV,is if I would see big cost savings, which I'm guessing I won't.

    When I'm looking at diesels on auto trader over the next while, is wanting above 50mpg realistic? I always check on autotrader specs/description, but I'm told these aren't always "real world" stats for mpg etc.

    Only other car I've driven bar VW is an Audi A3 and few family members have Mercedes C Classes and Fords. I'm guessing a BMW 3 or 5 series would be a good shout as it seems every professional working man in Ireland has one, very common, never cared much for BMW, test driven a few.

    Definitely open to driving something new.

    Thanks again.

    Realistically whatever car you buy now its going to drop quite a bit in depreciation - buying a new EV you might get lucky if supply of new vehicles doesn't materialise but with range increasing with each new model you could get stung. Buying a PHEV in UK is going to be much more expensive than a petrol or diesel.

    In your shoes I would buy a 2018 onwards 2.0 diesel - ideally something with ad blu as they don't seem to give pdf issues, and one with low co2 emissions. Something like a 320d bought from a BMW dealer with 2 year bumper to bumper warranty might really suit you - if low mileage you could extend the warranty further too. Fuel economy is excellent - very possible to get 50mpg.

    Passat or Passat CC might also appeal to you. You can get good deals on Jaguar XE's in England and I've heard they are reliable but probably not as economical.

    When you say £400 a month Im not sure if you are thinking HP, bank loan, PCP cost or indeed length of term?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    Casati wrote: »
    Realistically whatever car you buy now its going to drop quite a bit in depreciation - buying a new EV you might get lucky if supply of new vehicles doesn't materialise but with range increasing with each new model you could get stung. Buying a PHEV in UK is going to be much more expensive than a petrol or diesel.

    In your shoes I would buy a 2018 onwards 2.0 diesel - ideally something with ad blu as they don't seem to give pdf issues, and one with low co2 emissions. Something like a 320d bought from a BMW dealer with 2 year bumper to bumper warranty might really suit you - if low mileage you could extend the warranty further too. Fuel economy is excellent - very possible to get 50mpg.

    Passat or Passat CC might also appeal to you. You can get good deals on Jaguar XE's in England and I've heard they are reliable but probably not as economical.

    When you say £400 a month Im not sure if you are thinking HP, bank loan, PCP cost or indeed length of term?

    Is a diesel still my ticket, even though I'm just doing 1 big round trip to Dublin each week, rest of the time working from home, car will be doing short trips and moving very little most days (<10km) ?
    I've called it at 15,000 miles per year

    PCP, HP, Bank Loan, I understand how they work I've looked them up again recently.
    To be honest I'm not fussy, what's your favoured method?
    For instance on autotrader when I filter all the UK Cars to finance, it seemed to automatically default to 48 months and PCP.

    I wouldn't have the cash reserves up front to pay for the car other than a deposit from my golf sale.

    I'm not sure out of those methods above which is best, i.e. if you can negotiate a good APR rate on PCP with a dealer, and not too bad of a final payment, what would be the pros/cons of it VS going to your credit union/bank instead and asking for £15K or whatever it is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Casati


    Is a diesel still my ticket, even though I'm just doing 1 big round trip to Dublin each week, rest of the time working from home, car will be doing short trips and moving very little most days (<10km) ?
    I've called it at 15,000 miles per year

    PCP, HP, Bank Loan, I understand how they work I've looked them up again recently.
    To be honest I'm not fussy, what's your favoured method?
    For instance on autotrader when I filter all the UK Cars to finance, it seemed to automatically default to 48 months and PCP.

    I wouldn't have the cash reserves up front to pay for the car other than a deposit from my golf sale.

    I'm not sure out of those methods above which is best, i.e. if you can negotiate a good APR rate on PCP with a dealer, and not too bad of a final payment, what would be the pros/cons of it VS going to your credit union/bank instead and asking for £15K or whatever it is?

    Diesel Is perfect for your driving as the vast majority of your mileage is from long distance driving but petrol will work fine but will cost roughly 20% more to fuel. I’ve no idea I’m financing up North


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    Good stuff thanks, was just worried about the same problem again, DPF clogging up as it's sitting around, but you'd cleared that up above saying newer models with adblue shouldn't have that!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Casati


    Good stuff thanks, was just worried about the same problem again, DPF clogging up as it's sitting around, but you'd cleared that up above saying newer models with adblue shouldn't have that!!

    DPF clogs up not from sitting around but from driving short distances a lot without giving the car a chance to complete a regeneration. Your trip to Dublin will take care of that so you don’t have risks either way - unless of course you buy a secondhand car that was only driven around town


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    Casati wrote: »
    DPF clogs up not from sitting around but from driving short distances a lot without giving the car a chance to complete a regeneration. Your trip to Dublin will take care of that so you don’t have risks either way - unless of course you buy a secondhand car that was only driven around town

    But if you bought that car and started to put a lot of miles on it, would that not clear the DFP out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Casati


    But if you bought that car and started to put a lot of miles on it, would that not clear the DFP out?

    Yeah it should in fairness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I would suppose that the high mpg figures for hybrids are skewed by PHEV figures?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I would suppose that the high mpg figures for hybrids are skewed by PHEV figures?
    It says in the article that PHEV vehicles are not included in the mpg figures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    What I took from it overall was that you're still grand with a diesel until higher range comes out with newer hybrids/EVs in the next few years.

    The good posters on here had pointed that out before hand anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    After doing a good bit of research for a few weeks on auto trader UK and various UK Car magazines, I'm very interested in a BMW 5 Series, ideally it would be the the new Mild Hybrid Technology version from 2019 but they're £26K and upwards!

    They generally come across 4.5/5 stars on most reviews, and exceptional MPG returns.

    Probably settle for a 2017 onwards one.

    It's main rival the Mercedes C and E class don't appeal, I'd probably pick an Audi A4/A6 over a Merc.

    What's with this reliability index and manufacturer rankings?
    The most popular cars, Audi, Merc, BMW etc all way down the tables, whereas you've let's say, less desirable/sex appeal car brands like Dacia, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Renault up at the top of the table?

    Is this car politics or something? Don't understand it at all, there's a reason why these Kia/Dacia's etc give a long warranty with a purchase?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,705 ✭✭✭User1998


    After doing a good bit of research for a few weeks on auto trader UK and various UK Car magazines, I'm very interested in a BMW 5 Series, ideally it would be the the new Mild Hybrid Technology version from 2019 but they're £26K and upwards!

    You know Mild Hybrid is just marketing crap. A Mild Hybrid is just a clever start/stop system. Its not even a hybrid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    After doing a good bit of research for a few weeks on auto trader UK and various UK Car magazines, I'm very interested in a BMW 5 Series, ideally it would be the the new Mild Hybrid Technology version from 2019 but they're £26K and upwards!

    They generally come across 4.5/5 stars on most reviews, and exceptional MPG returns.

    Probably settle for a 2017 onwards one.

    It's main rival the Mercedes C and E class don't appeal, I'd probably pick an Audi A4/A6 over a Merc.

    What's with this reliability index and manufacturer rankings?
    The most popular cars, Audi, Merc, BMW etc all way down the tables, whereas you've sh*tboxes like Dacia, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Renault up at the top of the table?

    Is this car politics or something? Don't understand it at all, there's a reason why these Kia/Dacia's etc give a long warranty with a purchase?

    It all depends how the Reliability Survey compiles results.
    Some compile it on warranty pay outs, others on satisfaction of owners.

    There is nothing wrong with Dacia, Renault or Mitsubishi to be fair.

    If you want a BMW then buy one, life is short! That 5 series hybrid(530e i should say) has been having some electrical gremlins, I don't know if they have been solved by software updates etc.

    No car is bulletproof but if I was buying a hybrid I would go with a Toyota or Lexus if you want reliability. I am biased however as I drive one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    User1998 wrote: »
    You know Mild Hybrid is just marketing crap. A Mild Hybrid is just a clever start/stop system. Its not even a hybrid

    The running costs quoted on auto trader and various websites do sound too good to be true. Hard to get real world figures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    It all depends how the Reliability Survey compiles results.
    Some compile it on warranty pay outs, others on satisfaction of owners.

    There is nothing wrong with Dacia, Renault or Mitsubishi to be fair.

    If you want a BMW then buy one, life is short! That 5 series hybrid(530e i should say) has been having some electrical gremlins, I don't know if they have been solved by software updates etc.

    No car is bulletproof but if I was buying a hybrid I would go with a Toyota or Lexus if you want reliability. I am biased however as I drive one.

    Yeah I really like the look of the new corolla but it isn't reviewed well. Again I'm going off outdated experience but I've driven my dads old landcruisers he had on the farm before, as well as hiace vans, found those toyotas very "boaty" and loose?

    Have you a Lexus? Have always heard they're a fantastic car and some of them look very classy too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭freddieot


    [/QUOTE] What's with this reliability index and manufacturer rankings?
    The most popular cars, Audi, Merc, BMW etc all way down the tables, whereas you've sh*tboxes like Dacia, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Renault up at the top of the table?

    Is this car politics or something? Don't understand it at all, there's a reason why these Kia/Dacia's etc give a long warranty with a purchase?[/QUOTE]



    No, it's simple facts based on JDPower and other industry related surveys. By the way a sh*tbox is something that lets you down when you need it. Something which none of my previous Kias ever did but my new X5 (good riddance) that I had until not that long ago did on multiple occasions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    What did you change back to out of interest? And was it an old X5...

    Yes I edited my description of other car brands, was harsh in hindsight :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    Yeah I really like the look of the new corolla but it isn't reviewed well. Again I'm going off outdated experience but I've driven my dads old landcruisers he had on the farm before, as well as hiace vans, found those toyotas very "boaty" and loose?

    Have you a Lexus? Have always heard they're a fantastic car and some of them look very classy too.

    Yes i have a Lexus IS300h for 13 months, I have done 42000km in 13 months, class car, some people don't like the Cvt transmission as there is a slight whine when accelerating. After a while you don't notice it tbh.
    I don't do a lot of town driving, when I do the mpg would be 60mpg, my average which is mainly regional roads is 48mpg when doing speed limit.
    Short runs into town from 5 miles out it would do 37 -40 mpg.
    They do depreciate heavily which can play into your hand when buying if you are prepared to hold onto it.
    I paid 33.5k for mine 13 moths ago, last week I was offered 20k on a trade in for it! I will be holding onto it at that value, boot is a fraction small in the width, thats what had me thinking of changing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭freddieot


    What did you change back to out of interest? And was it an old X5...

    Yes I edited my description of other car brands, was harsh in hindsight :D:D


    I changed to a new Kodiaq Style 190 4WD Auto with a few extras. The BMW had a nicer interior. Although the Kodiaq is very comfortable with leather and memory seat blah blah blah etc. you would easily notice the difference from the BMW. Almost as quick as the BMW. However, the better handling, better 4WD system and and better equipment levels make up a lot for that missing .75 of a second or whatever to 60. The sports seats in the Kodiaq have a better grip as well.

    The X5 was bought brand new here in Ireland. I had it for 3 years and about 2 months when it started giving trouble after about 58000k or so. My problems are already recorded on previous posts so I won't go into it again in much detail but suffice to say it will be the last time anyone in my family buys BMW. I doubt my work colleague would either as he had to ferry me back and forth to the garage in his 10 year old Octavia Combi on several occasions.

    In the past I've owned (most from new) :-

    Volvo S40 T4 (another overrated pretender brand and this car was also sh*t)
    Renault, Datsun and Mitsubishi - all cr*p
    Ford, Suzuki and Opal - OK
    Hyundai and Kia - not one issue with 3 cars from new.

    In my case, it's lesson learned. I do understand the yearn and the desire for a BMW or other 'premium' mark. However, a far more expensive car does not always mean a more reliable, comfortable, safer or better equipped car ! In fact, the opposite can be true, as I found out and so did many others and that's why you see the premium manufacturers at the bottom of those tables.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    Great insight cheers, especially into a BMW considering it was so new.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    User1998 wrote: »
    So basically you have a very long round trip once a week, and a few smaller journeys throughout the week?

    Here is a thread I started over a year ago about buying a Golf GTE. I’m now on my second GTE and its the best car I’ve owned. Its a 2017 mk7.5 advance model

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058020806/1/#post111438853

    I suppose a GTE would kind of suit you perfect. You would get around 50-55mpg on your long motorway run and the rest of your weekly driving could be done on electric. Its a nice motorway cruiser with adaptive cruise being a standard feature, and its very quiet and relaxing around town if your willing to charge it. Also 205 bhp when you need it

    I’d still agree with Colm and say that from a cost perspective the best thing to do would be to keep your current Golf, but if you just fancy a change then yeah, the GTE is a great car and I’d highly recommend one.

    But just to let you know, during winter with the heating on, you will struggle to get 20 miles from it, summer you should get 25-27 miles

    Hi user1998, I’ve seen this mk7.5 description around a lot recently, how do you know this or is there a certain year before it went mk8?

    I’m looking at ads but they usually just say mk7?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    Advertising the golf now, is DoneDeal the main outlet done here?

    When I type into google “used cars for sale Ireland”
    It throws up a few different ones - carzone etc

    Apologies Mods I probably should start a new thread for this question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    Hi user1998, I’ve seen this mk7.5 description around a lot recently, how do you know this or is there a certain year before it went mk8?

    I’m looking at ads but they usually just say mk7?

    MK7.5 is just a term given to the facelifted MK7, most cars from early 2017 onwards would be the refreshed model. Small changes like a new infotainment screen, digital cockpit on the higher trims, led lights and some changes to the engine lineups.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,705 ✭✭✭User1998


    Advertising the golf now, is DoneDeal the main outlet done here?

    When I type into google “used cars for sale Ireland”
    It throws up a few different ones - carzone etc

    Apologies Mods I probably should start a new thread for this question

    Donedeal is best, Facebook Marketplace is good too but you’ll probably deal with a few messers there. Adverts I’d avoid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Greenlights16


    Thanks !


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