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People using the Irish version of their name on Facebook

  • 13-01-2021 12:18am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Munstergirl854


    Ireland is obviously a bilingual little country and we all know people who use the Irish version of their first and/or last surname on Facebook.(nothing wrong with it)
    I'm just considering this aspect ... in work could a person use the irish version of their name to sign contracts/sign off on emails or is this not ok?
    A lot of people tend to jump on board for this for Seachtain na Gaeilge...is this something that would only be ok on a social media platform or?
    Genuine question...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Ireland is obviously a bilingual little country and we all know people who use the Irish version of their first and/or last surname on Facebook.(nothing wrong with it)
    I'm just considering this aspect ... in work could a person use the irish version of their name to sign contracts/sign off on emails or is this not ok?
    A lot of people tend to jump on board for this for Seachtain na Gaeilge...is this something that would only be ok on a social media platform or?
    Genuine question...

    I sign everything in work in the anglicised version of my name. My bank account and other important docs are also in the anglicised b*stardised version. My birth cert is as Gaeilge and incorrect at that (the norm for registrars of old).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭micah537


    A work colleague signs everything with his name in Irish and will talk to anyone and everyone that comes into the office in Irish if they can speak it fluently. His email is his Irish name, well his first name is Sean so obviously it's a common enough name but his surname is also in Irish on his email and LinkedIn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I signed my work contract using the shortened version of my name. No one in work would ever know it’s not my real name. I’d use my birth name for official stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Cerveza


    Is Maith liom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Munstergirl854


    Thanks guys...I suppose what I'm trying to ask is can you jump from your anglicised name to your Irish one on a whim or would there be any obvious issue?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    micah537 wrote: »
    A work colleague signs everything with his name in Irish and will talk to anyone and everyone that comes into the office in Irish if they can speak it fluently. His email is his Irish name, well his first name is Sean so obviously it's a common enough name but his surname is also in Irish on his email and LinkedIn.

    I think the op means if your name is "english" can you suddenly switch it to the irish version.

    Op I'd say if you asked your hr department you'd get more guidance. They probably wouldn't have a problem once you picked one and stuck to it.....if you were continually interchanging between the two it would be confusing, so they'd probably have an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,286 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Ireland is obviously a bilingual little country and we all know people who use the Irish version of their first and/or last surname on Facebook.(nothing wrong with it)

    This always makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Munstergirl854


    I think the op means if your name is "english" can you suddenly switch it to the irish version.

    Op I'd say if you asked your hr department you'd get more guidance. They probably wouldn't have a problem once you picked one and stuck to it.....if you were continually interchanging between the two it would be confusing, so they'd probably have an issue.

    That's exactly what I meant ...if I wanted to use the "Irish" version of my surname for email sign off during seachtain na gaeilge would that be okay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    My favourite thing is when they put their name in Irish despite their vocabulary barely stretching beyond Tá and Níl


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Landyn Rich Bodyguard


    Cerveza wrote: »
    Is Maith liom

    sneachta.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    That's exactly what I meant ...if I wanted to use the "Irish" version of my surname for email sign off during seachtain na gaeilge would that be okay.

    Only your company can answer that and it could also depend on who you email. If you regularly email other countries it could raise issues if your surname changes.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Landyn Rich Bodyguard


    Ireland is obviously a bilingual little country and we all know people who use the Irish version of their first and/or last surname on Facebook.(nothing wrong with it)
    I'm just considering this aspect ... in work could a person use the irish version of their name to sign contracts/sign off on emails or is this not ok?
    A lot of people tend to jump on board for this for Seachtain na Gaeilge...is this something that would only be ok on a social media platform or?
    Genuine question...

    Yes, you can sign off using Irish version if you wish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    People use it to hide their identity to a certain degree, my cousin is a teacher and uses her Irish name so as the kids parents can't look her up...seems to be a common practice in that line of work


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ireland is obviously a bilingual little country and we all know people who use the Irish version of their first and/or last surname on Facebook.(nothing wrong with it)
    I'm just considering this aspect ... in work could a person use the irish version of their name to sign contracts/sign off on emails or is this not ok?
    A lot of people tend to jump on board for this for Seachtain na Gaeilge...is this something that would only be ok on a social media platform or?
    Genuine question...

    My name can not be Irish-ized. In primary school my teacher crossed out my name and wrote her translation of my name on my copybooks. When my mother saw it, she crossed it out and wrote my regular name. This loop happened about three times more until my mother went in and had what I imagine was an impassioned debate with the teacher. My name stopped getting crossed out by the teacher.

    I wish there'd been some Polish kids in the class. That teacher's head would have exploded!

    Edit: my mother was fluent in irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭timeToLive


    Gotta check it's compliant with HR!

    /s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Teachers seem to do it for some reason.
    The pupil's will never figure it out.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Teachers seem to do it for some reason.
    The pupil's will never figure it out.

    I can understand teacher's wanting to hide their identity.

    But, there's better ways of doing it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 353 ✭✭discodiva92


    Very middle class thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I can understand teacher's wanting to hide their identity.

    But, there's better ways of doing it.

    We'd have had Facebook in 5th/6th year. It was great fun seen who was the best creep at tracking them down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭French Toast


    Ireland is bilingual? Not even close to it.


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  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We'd have had Facebook in 5th/6th year. It was great fun seen who was the best creep at tracking them down.

    Facebook hadn't been invented when I was in secondary school. Thank God!

    It must be a minefield for teachers since Facebook was invented. I've heard stories of a 6th year finding his economics teacher on tinder..


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ireland is bilingual? Not even close to it.

    Please watch this short video:

    https://youtu.be/JqYtG9BNhfM


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 353 ✭✭discodiva92


    Facebook hadn't been invented when I was in secondary school. Thank God!

    It must be a minefield for teachers since Facebook was invented. I've heard stories of a 6th year finding his economics teacher on tinder..

    18 year old on tinder finding another adult not that uncommon


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    18 year old on tinder finding another adult not that uncommon

    I know. Thats what I said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    People use it to hide their identity to a certain degree, my cousin is a teacher and uses her Irish name so as the kids parents can't look her up...seems to be a common practice in that line of work

    I know a few teachers who do that but seems pointless, the pupils will find them either way if they want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I use my Irish surname in addition to a slight misspelling of my first name to make me harder to find on Facebook. I like it better that way though I’m not sure why. I’m not looking to be no influencer. I just want my friends and family seeing what I’m up to.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Get a half fashy vibe off of this, especially from ppl i was at school with who hardly had two words of english let alone irish.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    People using their nickname are much worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Cad é 'Facebook', le do thoil?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    My name can not be Irish-ized. In primary school my teacher crossed out my name and wrote her translation of my name on my copybooks. When my mother saw it, she crossed it out and wrote my regular name. This loop happened about three times more until my mother went in and had what I imagine was an impassioned debate with the teacher. My name stopped getting crossed out by the teacher.

    I wish there'd been some Polish kids in the class. That teacher's head would have exploded!

    Edit: my mother was fluent in irish.

    Same here , my surname cant be given an Irish translation, I got detention for arguing with a teacher.
    My father dropped into the teacher asking where she got the translation pointing out the origin of our surname showing her how many people shared our surname in the country , 7 I believe at the time.

    He too was fluent in Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    I always see teachers and guards I know who keep their name irish for Facebook, I always assumed it was to stop students/scumbags from finding them too easily


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,718 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I was in Lidl once and this man was talking/giving out to his kids in Irish. I secretly thought he was a pretentious twat, for speaking our native language, I know it sounds weird but maybe it was because he just seemed like a twat anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Shinners and/or teachers usually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,037 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    People use it to hide their identity to a certain degree, my cousin is a teacher and uses her Irish name so as the kids parents can't look her up...seems to be a common practice in that line of work

    If OnlyFans creators copped onto this, I'd say that'd go some way to banishing notions of Irish being the language of chaste dancers at crossroads.

    ...ah, who am I kidding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Ireland is obviously a bilingual little country and we all know people who use the Irish version of their first and/or last surname on Facebook.(nothing wrong with it) I'm just considering this aspect ... in work could a person use the irish version of their name to sign contracts/sign off on emails or is this not ok? A lot of people tend to jump on board for this for Seachtain na Gaeilge...is this something that would only be ok on a social media platform or? Genuine question...

    Your name is your name. If you use the Irish version then why can't you use it in work? Your right to use Irish is protected by law


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    That's exactly what I meant ...if I wanted to use the "Irish" version of my surname for email sign off during seachtain na gaeilge would that be okay.
    It's a legal version of your name, as far as I know, and so you can certainly use it. It's confusing to switch names at work though, even if your job doesn't deal with people abroad there are lots of immigrants who didn't go to school here. I'd suggest having both names rather than completely switching. Maybe have a dual language signature - translate the whole lot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Ireland is obviously a bilingual little country and we all know people who use the Irish version of their first and/or last surname on Facebook.(nothing wrong with it)
    I'm just considering this aspect ... in work could a person use the irish version of their name to sign contracts/sign off on emails or is this not ok?
    A lot of people tend to jump on board for this for Seachtain na Gaeilge...is this something that would only be ok on a social media platform or?
    Genuine question...
    If you have proof of usage for 2 yrs and in some circumstances 6 months you can use this name on official documents and get your passport made out in it.

    Using the two at the same time no though.

    The english version will be still noted on the passport ..or a note will be made on your passport to explain any discrepancy.

    Same with official documents.

    With some documents that are not as official...i dont know.

    However if you are known to use the English name ....no its not acceptable.

    If you are known as Sean Smith all the time. You should sign Sean Smith and you should have your passport as Sean Smith if you mean to go on using that name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,213 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I always see teachers and guards I know who keep their name irish for Facebook, I always assumed it was to stop students/scumbags from finding them too easily

    Don’t know why they’d bother. Just have your profile private x100, so that no fûcker can find you... and personalize your settings so even if you have a unique name.. people need to be friended by you as opposed to the opposite being attainable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    For the most par in Ireland, you can call yourself whatever you want. In fact, one way of legally changing your name is by “use and repute” - basically insisting on using a certain name, and insisting that others do too. If you can show that you’ve done this for at least two years, that new name becomes legally yours.

    Years ago, it was common for female children who’s official first name was Mary to be known by their middle name. Both my mother and my wife have “Mary” as their first name on their birth certs, but were never actually called that name at all.


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