What is deemed "Rear of a house" for planning permission purposes

Conology

* The house is located in a Rural area, not overlooked or close to neighbours.

* The entrance (Front door ) to the original house was facing the road.
* An extension was made to the house so that the Front Door was changed to the side of the original house. ( Full planning received )
* A further extension is being considered which would be to the "Rear of the Original House", but to the "Side of the extension".

Can anyone advise - What is deemed "Rear of a house" for planning permission purposes in the above scenario.

Thank you

sydthebeat

Do you realise that the floor area of the previous extension is reckonable now when considering any new exempt extension?

What size was the previous extension which was granted permission??

sprucemoose

Conology wrote: »

* The house is located in a Rural area, not overlooked or close to neighbours.

* The entrance (Front door ) to the original house was facing the road.
* An extension was made to the house so that the Front Door was changed to the side of the original house. ( Full planning received )
* A further extension is being considered which would be to the "Rear of the Original House", but to the "Side of the extension".

Can anyone advise - What is deemed "Rear of a house" for planning permission purposes in the above scenario.

Thank you

it largely depends on the exact nature of the subsequent planning permission and its wording/labelling of drawings. a section 5 declaration from the local council to clear things up may be the best option here as it seems like it might be unclear.

having said all this, i would strongly advise against any building works being undertaken without engaging an engineer/architect, if you already have one then they really should be looking after this for you (depending on terms of engagement)

Conology

sydthebeat wrote: »

Do you realise that the floor area of the previous extension is reckonable now when considering any new exempt extension?

What size was the previous extension which was granted permission??

Yes - thanks,
over 40sqmtrs I would say. ( Yes - I know the new Ext will require a further planning permission request )

Conology

sprucemoose wrote: »

it largely depends on the exact nature of the subsequent planning permission and its wording/labelling of drawings. a section 5 declaration from the local council to clear things up may be the best option here as it seems like it might be unclear.

having said all this, i would strongly advise against any building works being undertaken without engaging an engineer/architect, if you already have one then they really should be looking after this for you (depending on terms of engagement)

Thank you.
Plans for the new Extension will be drawn up by an Architect & we will have an Engineer to oversee the work when it is being done.

sydthebeat

Conology wrote: »

Yes - thanks,
over 40sqmtrs I would say. ( Yes - I know the new Ext will require a further planning permission request )

so whats the reason for your question then?

if its for the newspaper, just refer to its as "permission for extension to dwelling"

sprucemoose

Conology wrote: »

Thank you.
Plans for the new Extension will be drawn up by an Architect & we will have an Engineer to oversee the work when it is being done.

perfect, ive seen that its over 40sq.m anyway so its largely moot but your architect should be advising you regarding planning (whether they are engaged to look after planning or not they should at least advise on planning/section 5)

Conology

sydthebeat wrote: »

so whats the reason for your question then?

if its for the newspaper, just refer to its as "permission for extension to dwelling"

Just idle curiousity ?

Conology

sprucemoose wrote: »

perfect, ive seen that its over 40sq.m anyway so its largely moot but your architect should be advising you regarding planning (whether they are engaged to look after planning or not they should at least advise on planning/section 5)

That's fine - thank you for the replies

sydthebeat

Conology wrote: »

Just idle curiousity ?

the rule of thumb is the rear of the house is the opposite side of where the front door is. Its usually very obvious which side is the front and which side is the rear anyway.

just because the door has been turned 90 degrees due to a porch etc doesnt automatically mean the "side" becomes the "rear"

sprucemoose

sydthebeat wrote: »

the rule of thumb is the rear of the house is the opposite side of where the front door is. Its usually very obvious which side is the front and which side is the rear anyway.

that's true, but it depends on the labelling of planning drawings too, since there was a supplemental pp obtained on the property it might cause problems if they don't all match (they should, but they might not, given the standards of design in ireland at times something that looks like the front may not necessarily be the front)

GerardKeating

Conology wrote: »

* An extension was made to the house so that the Front Door was changed to the side of the original house. ( Full planning received )

Has the door moved to a different side of the house, or the same side, but facing a different direction?

Does the origional door still exist, or was it sealed up?

sydthebeat

sprucemoose wrote: »

that's true, but it depends on the labelling of planning drawings too, since there was a supplemental pp obtained on the property it might cause problems if they don't all match (they should, but they might not, given the standards of design in ireland at times something that looks like the front may not necessarily be the front)

you dont need to label a planning drawing elevation as "front" or anything like that...

i often just refer to them as the orientation to which they face.

anyway, if i doubt re exemption, seek a section 5

sprucemoose

sydthebeat wrote: »

you dont need to label a planning drawing elevation as "front" or anything like that...

i often just refer to them as the orientation to which they face.

i know, but they often are and im just pointing out that this may cause/solve problems especially seeing as there are two planning permissions obtained

Conology

GerardKeating wrote: »

Has the door moved to a different side of the house, or the same side, but facing a different direction?

Does the origional door still exist, or was it sealed up?

Yes it was "Sealed up "

pitterbrayn

What size was the previous extension which was granted permission??