Kris Kindle petty issue, should I say something?

Airyfairy12

Wasnt sure where else to post this.
We had a Kris kindle in work with a spend of max 15 euro, no one knows who got who, all gifts where to be left in staffroom by 22nd of December.
This sounds really petty but I didnt receive a gift from my Kris Kindle and im wondering should I mention it to the organiser?
Now I dont care about the gift but its not the point, maybe it was a genuine mistake, maybe my name wasnt given to someone or the person who got me forgot but I wonder could it be a regular thing with this person? Maybe they sign up every year but dont keep their side of the deal? I find that a bit unfair.
Would it be really petty of me to say something?

Tom Mann Centuria

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Wasnt sure where else to post this.
We had a Kris kindle in work with a spend of max 15 euro, no one knows who got who, all gifts where to be left in staffroom by 22nd of December.
This sounds really petty but I didnt receive a gift from my Kris Kindle and im wondering should I mention it to the organiser?
Now I dont care about the gift but its not the point, maybe it was a genuine mistake, maybe my name wasnt given to someone or the person who got me forgot but I wonder could it be a regular thing with this person? Maybe they sign up every year but dont keep their side of the deal? I find that a bit unfair.
Would it be really petty of me to say something?

Yep I'd mention it.

whiskeyman

Happened to me before.
I didn't mention it and didn't bother doing it again.
Kris Kindles are the biggest waste.
Suggest you all donate something to a local charity next year instead of buying stuff that people probably don't want...

Deeec

Possibly the person may have been off. There could be something waiting for you. Have you been back in work after Christmas yet?

miezekatze

I would mention it, don't think that's petty at all.

Airyfairy12

Deeec wrote: »

Possibly the person may have been off. There could be something waiting for you. Have you been back in work after Christmas yet?

Thanks, yes I was in on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Deeec

whiskeyman wrote: »

Happened to me before.
I didn't mention it and didn't bother doing it again.
Kris Kindles are the biggest waste.
Suggest you all donate something to a local charity next year instead of buying stuff that people probably don't want...

Completely agree with you. I hate them - you just end up receiving rubbish you don't need like a novelty mug or a cheap soap set.

Deeec

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Thanks, yes I was in on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Mention it if it bothers you. Personally I would let it go.

salmocab

Another way to look at it is you didn’t get 15 euro worth of tat you didn’t want.

Airyfairy12

salmocab wrote: »

Another way to look at it is you didn’t get 15 euro worth of tat you didn’t want.

Yes but its not about the gift, its more so about someone taking advantage. Why get involved, receive a gift and not keep your own side of the deal?

JDxtra

This often happens, some participants just don't bother getting the gift. You need someone to tightly coordinate it otherwise this happens.

Mention it, but don't bother participating next year.

OMM 0000

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Wasnt sure where else to post this.
We had a Kris kindle in work with a spend of max 15 euro, no one knows who got who, all gifts where to be left in staffroom by 22nd of December.
This sounds really petty but I didnt receive a gift from my Kris Kindle and im wondering should I mention it to the organiser?
Now I dont care about the gift but its not the point, maybe it was a genuine mistake, maybe my name wasnt given to someone or the person who got me forgot but I wonder could it be a regular thing with this person? Maybe they sign up every year but dont keep their side of the deal? I find that a bit unfair.
Would it be really petty of me to say something?

Not petty at all. Keep things light and relaxed.

Try to imagine how you'd like someone to react to this. Imagine a Brad Pitt type of person.

He'd be making fun of it, not taking it personally, and being cool. This would make you like him.

Now imagine someone getting upset and angry. Not so attractive, right?

So go have a talk so you can sort it out, but be relaxed.

Note: am drunk.

Sardonicat

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Yes but its not about the gift, its more so about someone taking advantage. Why get involved, receive a gift and not keep your own side of the deal?

Maybe they didnt deliberately take advantage though? Maybe something serious came up in their personal lives, maybe they were off sick. As it's only €15 I personally wouldn't mention it in case it was an oversight due to unfortunate circumstances. I wouldn't be participating next year, though. Exchanging cheap tat, who needs that? I think the charitable donation idea is far better.

Tucker tunsel

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Wasnt sure where else to post this.
We had a Kris kindle in work with a spend of max 15 euro, no one knows who got who, all gifts where to be left in staffroom by 22nd of December.
This sounds really petty but I didnt receive a gift from my Kris Kindle and im wondering should I mention it to the organiser?
Now I dont care about the gift but its not the point, maybe it was a genuine mistake, maybe my name wasnt given to someone or the person who got me forgot but I wonder could it be a regular thing with this person? Maybe they sign up every year but dont keep their side of the deal? I find that a bit unfair.
Would it be really petty of me to say something?

I wouldnt say anything to be hones.what is the point in creating a tension at the start of the new year over 15 euro.

You never also know what is going on in someone's head and they may have family or money trouble, and by organiser having to go to the person to ask it's difficult for all

Smile and forget it and move on knowing you kept your side of the thing.

Life is way to short for drama over minor things

OMM 0000

Tucker tunsel wrote: »

Life is way to short for drama over minor things

Probably the best advice.

But requires being a bit of a robot which is difficult.

Mention it, a deals a deal

Tucker tunsel

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Probably the best advice.

But requires being a bit of a robot which is difficult.

Its been a tough year for people and I always believe esp in work to try and start afresh without drama first week back to work.

Asked me a couple of years ago I may have taught differently though

I wouldn't mention it, but next year I'd say "leave me out please". KK is optional where I work.

You probably got the guy who forgot to put in your hours!

I Am The Law

About time this type of childish nonsense stopped, grow up ffs.

endacl

You should resign. And burn the business to the ground.

Standard response.

Princess Calla

JDxtra wrote: »

This often happens, some participants just don't bother getting the gift. You need someone to tightly coordinate it otherwise this happens.

Mention it, but don't bother participating next year.

Yeah I've been the organiser for our one for a few years. I'd always have a record of who got who, and keep a record as the presents were put under the tree. That way if anyone was out sick or whatever it was very transparent what happened.

As someone who has organised a few of them I'd say mention it to the organiser.

Yes it's not a big deal, yes it's only small etc however there could be a pattern with a certain member of the team, plus you entered into it in good faith and fair is fair.

bertsmom

If it was me I wouldn't say anything for a week or two incase the person who was supposed to get your gift has been off work. In a few weeks it will be apparent whether this is the case or not, then I would just mention i don't want to be involved in these things in the coming year. I have never participated in this and I'm always polite about it (I usually jokingly just say "sure if someone is desperate for a donation to Dogs Trust in their name give me a shout, otherwise I'm a strong no thanks") its never once caused any issues and every single January someone in the department 'confides' in me that they don't want to do it again coz they got something lovely for someone and they received sh1te in return lol...roll on Christmas!

blue_blue

You're over-thinking this.

Someone probably made a genuine mistake. Say it to the organiser and they'll ask the secret santa in question.

This would be an extremely accurate description of being petty.

There are countless reasons why you may not have reverence a gift, and even if there was no legitimate excuse, no good will come of raising the issue.

Maybe it’s on the way. Christmas is a very busy period, just wait and see what happens and forget about it

Airyfairy12

Thanks, I would agree about not getting involved with them but I was trying to be social and involved with staff. Its only my second year working here and I dont see other staff allot, especially this year, although we have an active whatsapp and facebook group, our hours have been staggered because of covid, we had no xmas night out this year and I started too late last year and missed the christmas party. Just thought it would be a nice way to join in with the group and feel a little bit more apart of the staff.

Give it until the end of next week and if nothing materialises, mention it to the organiser.

If I was in a Kris Kindle and something came up that meant I couldn't fulfill my part, then I would mention it to the person running it.

blindsider

Mention it to the organiser - no big deal. KK only works if everyone contributes.

It's not a big deal, but mention it in a nice way...if I organised a Kris Kindle and sth went wrong, I would want to know....

Princess Calla

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This would be an extremely accurate description of being petty.

There are countless reasons why you may not have reverence a gift, and even if there was no legitimate excuse, no good will come of raising the issue.

Maybe it’s on the way. Christmas is a very busy period, just wait and see what happens and forget about it

I disagree to be honest.

Taking part isn't compulsory, if it's too much hassle or you are already too busy to pick up a gift don't take part.

Even if the date did get away from you ,you could easily throw 15 quid or whatever the limit is into an envelope. If you have enough time to collect your present you have enough time to leave a present.

When I was organising it, if someone was out unexpectedly (which does happen) I would have emailed the recipient and flagged it with them before gifts were exchanged so they weren't left standing like a lemon with no pressie.

I had a "watch list" given to me for this type of behavior. Some people are extremely stingey and it can ruin it for everyone else especially if the majority of the team puts abit of effort into the gift.

While it is supposed to be fun and "team building" etc management do keep an eye on it from a distance, well they did in our place anyway.

Airyfairy12

Princess Calla wrote: »

I disagree to be honest.

Taking part isn't compulsory, if it's too much hassle or you are already too busy to pick up a gift don't take part.

Even if the date did get away from you ,you could easily throw 15 quid or whatever the limit is into an envelope. If you have enough time to collect your present you have enough time to leave a present.

When I was organising it, if someone was out unexpectedly (which does happen) I would have emailed the recipient and flagged it with them before gifts were exchanged so they weren't left standing like a lemon with no pressie.

I had a "watch list" given to me for this type of behavior. Some people are extremely stingey and it can ruin it for everyone else especially if the majority of the team puts abit of effort into the gift.

While it is supposed to be fun and "team building" etc management do keep an eye on it from a distance, well they did in our place anyway.

This, its not the gift its the principal.
The organiser posted 3 reminders on the facebook group & Whatsapp and the final date for leaving them in was before Christmas.

They were happy enough to pick up their KK, I just think its bad form, it ruins it.

Mrs OBumble

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

The organiser posted 3 reminders on the facebook group & Whatsapp and the final date for leaving them in was before Christmas.

WhatsApp is bad enough (hell even the GAA recommend not using it) but what kind of workplace has a Facebook group???

Haraldkare

Perhaps the person didnt receive anything last year so had nothing to regift this year.

But I wouldnt be too bothered by it. Maybe you can say it your manager to try and haggle an hour off work instead.

Darc19

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Yes but its not about the gift, its more so about someone taking advantage. Why get involved, receive a gift and not keep your own side of the deal?

Or someone just couldn't be arsed about it and had more important things to do.

It's one of the most hated "traditions" in an office and causes more petty squabbles than it's worth.

Darc19

Darc19 wrote: »

Or someone just couldn't be arsed about it and had more important things to do.

It's one of the most hated "traditions" in an office and causes more petty squabbles than it's worth.

They said it was voluntary though so if you couldn’t be arsed about it then you would surely just not opt in?

Darc19

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

They said it was voluntary though so if you couldn’t be arsed about it then you would surely just not opt in?

They say "voluntary" but still people feel that they have to join in.

Considering it's such a non event and low value, it most likely is someone that couldn't be bothered, agreed to join and simply forgot as there were a hundred things that took priority.

Or it could be a scrooge

bertsmom

If your of working age its safe to assume its a full grown adult so I'm not sure the argument that someone would feel obliged if its voluntary works.
Surely one lesson learned early on in life is dont be a sheep, you dont have to just follow and agree to everything

Airyfairy12

bertsmom wrote: »

If your of working age its safe to assume its a full grown adult so I'm not sure the argument that someone would feel obliged if its voluntary works.
Surely one lesson learned early on in life is dont be a sheep, you dont have to just follow and agree to everything

Its not mandatory, only 10 or so of us got involved out of a staff of 20 something.
Its really not a big deal, as I said I dont care about the gift but its just bad form, whose to say they dont do this every year and no ones said anything?

2Mad2BeMad

Don't bother bringing it up OP

Just don't participate next year.

I hate Kris Kindles, waste of peoples money and people getting ****e they won't want or don't need.

Do a collection for a charity 10er a head or something, at least it won't be money wasted.

bertsmom

Airyfairy12 wrote:

Its not mandatory, only 10 or so of us got involved out of a staff of 20 something. Its really not a big deal, as I said I dont care about the gift but its just bad form, whose to say they dont do this every year and no ones said anything?

Oh Airyfairy apologies I didn't mean that at all the way it came across. I totally think you've a right to be like wtf! I would be! And I would have to address it tbh (id just give it a week or so incase it comes to light that thers a genuine reason)
I meant that as in if the other person didn't want to take part (I never do) why not just say "no thanks ill leave ye to it" like an actual adult instead of just taking a gift and not giving one.

Airyfairy12

bertsmom wrote: »

Oh Airyfairy apologies I didn't mean that at all the way it came across. I totally think you've a right to be like wtf! I would be! And I would have to address it tbh (id just give it a week or so incase it comes to light that thers a genuine reason)
I meant that as in if the other person didn't want to take part (I never do) why not just say "no thanks ill leave ye to it" like an actual adult instead of just taking a gift and not giving one.

I knew what you meant, no apology necessary.

TBH ill probably just leave it, I had a little rant about it here and feel that got it out of my system.

Thanks for the replies.

job seeker

I would be more annoyed with the fact that someone signed up and didn't bother their head to drop off or bring in their gift. It kind of defeats the purpose of the whole Kris Kindle. You could just message the group and say that you didn't receive your gift. It's not going to hurt anyway!

Tea For Two

I’m not a great fan of Secret Santa in the workplace but if it’s a small price limit it can be a bit of a laugh. What often happened in our workplace was colleague was absent on the day of the holidays. OP, maybe you’ll arrive back to work and there’ll be a gift awaiting you.

KaneToad

I don't participate in:

Secret Santa
Leaving collections
Wedding collections
Birthday collections
Promotion collections

All of which have occurred at places where I work. There was a time, when I was young/innocent, that I did.

I wish all my colleagues well but that's where it ends. If I really feel the need to mark any of the above occasions, for a colleague, I'll do so independently.

OP, if I were you, I'd say nothing and dispense with all workplace 'morale' nonsense. Let the employer pay for morale boosting measures, not the employee.