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Single person renting - electricity bill

  • 01-01-2021 12:53pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭


    Hi

    does this bill look high or is it normal. Why is standing chare and pso levy so high

    Thanks for any help


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    Hi

    does this bill look high or is it normal. Why is standing chare and pso levy so high

    Thanks for any help
    What bill?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Standing charge and pso levy are fixed and don’t change or depend on usage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭shar01


    Before working from home my bill would average around €85/90 per month. The last few have been around €110/120.

    I cook on electric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    shar01 wrote: »
    Before working from home my bill would average around €85/90 per month. The last few have been around €110/120.

    I cook on electric.

    Seems normal enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    What type of space and water heating do you have, do you have an electric shower, do you use the dryer a lot?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Tv2013


    TheChizler wrote: »
    What type of space and water heating do you have, do you have an electric shower, do you use the dryer a lot?

    It just two rooms. There is an electric shower but keep the hot water off till I want it on same with heaters. I use dryer once an week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    It just two rooms. There is an electric shower but keep the hot water off till I want it on same with heaters. I use dryer once an week
    Is the space and water heating electric or something else?

    Just saw the screenshot, doesn't look particularly unusual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Tv2013


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Is the space and water heating electric or something else?

    Just saw the screenshot, doesn't look particularly unusual.

    It electric.

    The standing charge and pso levy when added together is more than usage is what I really can’t understand. I am paying more for that than the electric part


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    It electric.

    The standing charge and pso levy when added together is more than usage is what I really can’t understand. I am paying more for that than the electric part
    That's just because your usage is relatively low. Levy is fixed for everyone as is standing charge for the most part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Have you come to the end of your discount period? I can't see where your discount is being applied. It looks like you've been charged for 3 months pso levy too. From your end, 226 units for 2 months is fantastic there isn't much less you could use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Tv2013


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Have you come to the end of your discount period? I can't see where your discount is being applied. It looks like you've been charged for 3 months pso levy too. From your end, 226 units for 2 months is fantastic there isn't much less you could use.

    This is my third month in this property and first time renting so not sure on things should look last bill was for 33€ and this has tripled


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    This is my third month in this property and first time renting so not sure on things should look last bill was for 33€ and this has tripled
    So the first bill was for less than 1 month and this one is for 2, it roughly makes sense.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Looks about right. I switched recently and got an estimated bill for €90 for the 2 months.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It is annoying though that the fixed charges are as high as they are. The more you use the better value per unit it is. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    It is annoying though that the fixed charges are as high as they are. The more you use the better value per unit it is. :pac:

    Happened in the 09 recession, ESB were taking a huge hit with lots of empty houses, rather than adapt government gave them minimum charges


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,005 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    3.5KWh per days is very average. So yes it’s fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,721 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    It is annoying though that the fixed charges are as high as they are. The more you use the better value per unit it is. :pac:


    yeah it is. Though one way to try to reduce the cost for low users of electricity is to try find the cheapest standing charge. When I switched last year standing charges ranged from 128 per year (Glow Power) up to 243 per year (Bord Gais). So if you are a low user of electricity it can often be better to seek out the lowest standing charge rate even if it means paying a high unit cost rate. Its a matter of doing the maths of how many KwH you use a year but for me anyway choosing the lowest standing charge will save me money over the other options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,800 ✭✭✭C3PO


    Looks very cheap for two months - I live on my own (and heat with gas) and my bill is significantly higher than that.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,182 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    shar01 wrote: »
    Before working from home my bill would average around €85/90 per month. The last few have been around €110/120.

    I cook on electric.
    per month, or per billing period?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Shamboo1801


    Count yourself lucky. My units for the same period was over 800, compared to your 225.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Over 1200 for me... Small wonder energia won't let me leave:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭StefanFal


    Mine is typically between 200 and 300 a month in Winter. About 120 in summer. That’s inclusive of water and bins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,005 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Over 1200 for me... Small wonder energia won't let me leave:D

    What type heating are you using ? Have you changed your lighting over to LED? Are i you u using the immersion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    ted1 wrote: »
    What type heating are you using ? Have you changed your lighting over to LED? Are i you u using the immersion?

    Oil heating. CFC bulbs not led. Immersion is isolated at the board, never used. Electric cooker, dishwasher, clothes dryer, the missus puts the clothes on a horse overnight with the dehumidifier in the room, that has reduced dryer time a lot (not the bills though). I use the oil to heat the water in the summer, just for half an hour a day since I got the electric shower. Summer bills are sore enough too I was thinking of asking ESB networks to check the meter as they're very high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭A Law


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    This is my third month in this property and first time renting so not sure on things should look last bill was for 33€ and this has tripled



    You signed up with 22.5% discount and 50€ cash back? Could the 50€ have come off the first bill?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    StefanFal wrote: »
    Mine is typically between 200 and 300 a month in Winter. About 120 in summer. That’s inclusive of water and bins.

    What electricity provider also sells you water and bin collection?? None, I imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    It just two rooms. There is an electric shower but keep the hot water off till I want it on same with heaters. I use dryer once an week

    I'd imagine you'd have wanted the heaters on more in month 3 than month 1. Yes? Months 4&5 and even 6 could be in a similar vein so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,005 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Oil heating. CFC bulbs not led. Immersion is isolated at the board, never used. Electric cooker, dishwasher, clothes dryer, the missus puts the clothes on a horse overnight with the dehumidifier in the room, that has reduced dryer time a lot (not the bills though). I use the oil to heat the water in the summer, just for half an hour a day since I got the electric shower. Summer bills are sore enough too I was thinking of asking ESB networks to check the meter as they're very high.

    First thing to do is to replace your bulbs with LED much better lights than CFL.

    Dehumidifiers are very expensive to run. I’d check the model and see how much power it uses. A clothes line in the summer and a tumble dryer could be a much better option. A dehumidifier can use 400 w an hour if it’s in for 8 hours that 3.2kwh a dryer cycle should use less


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    Also bear in mind the PSO levy increased by 130% from about Eur 34 to 78 p.a. (ex VAT) with effect from 1 Oct 20.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    ted1 wrote: »
    First thing to do is to replace your bulbs with LED much better lights than CFL.

    Dehumidifiers are very expensive to run. I’d check the model and see how much power it uses. A clothes line in the summer and a tumble dryer could be a much better option. A dehumidifier can use 400 w an hour if it’s in for 8 hours that 3.2kwh a dryer cycle should use less

    I found the light from LEDs to be very harsh it's very difficult to find ones that are easy on the eyes. Obviously in the summer we use the clothes line and unplug the dehumidifier. It's a meaco dehumidifier it doesn't run constantly, when the clothes are on the horse we give them a blast of it for an hour on the laundry setting and then put it back to its 55% setting and head for bed. The rated power is 370W The clothes are almost dry in the morning, less than 40 mins in the dryer has them sorted and put away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,005 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    LEDs have come on lots. You can get various colour ones that cover the white spectrum from a yellow to daylight white.

    Best to go to a shop that has a display to see what you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    ted1 wrote: »
    LEDs have come on lots. You can get various colour ones that cover the white spectrum from a yellow to daylight white.

    Best to go to a shop that has a display to see what you want.

    Something like these? https://www.screwfix.ie/p/lap-bc-gls-led-light-bulb-806lm-9-5w-5-pack/5894t They're 9.5W some of the newer bulbs I have in table lamps are similar to these but the majority are either 12 or 15W cfl particularly the main bulbs in the ceilings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,005 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Something like these? https://www.screwfix.ie/p/lap-bc-gls-led-light-bulb-806lm-9-5w-5-pack/5894t They're 9.5W some of the newer bulbs I have in table lamps are similar to these but the majority are either 12 or 15W cfl particularly the main bulbs in the ceilings.


    More reasonable priced
    https://www.ikea.com/ie/en/cat/led-light-bulbs-10744/

    If you don’t have screw in fittings , a converter is 75c


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