New gate entrance in exchange for straighter line of sight

If you offer to surrender/pull the front boundary of a site back from the existing road to straighten a bend in a local road(it has an L in the road number) will the Planning Authorities allow the established entrance to a residential site be moved. Are they amenable to this in general?
The effect would be to turn a gentle bend with an obstructed view in to a straight road without obstructed view.

sydthebeat

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If you offer to surrender/pull the front boundary of a site back from the existing road to straighten a bend in a local road(it has an L in the road number) will the Planning Authorities allow the established entrance to a residential site be moved. Are they amenable to this in general?
The effect would be to turn a gentle bend with an obstructed view in to a straight road without obstructed view.

Not always a good idea.

Unobstructed views equals faster vehicle speeds.

Whatever you want to do, pass it with the councils roads engineers first

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

Not always a good idea.

Unobstructed views equals faster vehicle speeds.

Whatever you want to do, pass it with the councils roads engineers first

The bend or oncoming traffic doesn't seem to slow them down as it is.

sydthebeat

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The bend or oncoming traffic doesn't seem to slow them down as it is.

So??
A straighter road with unobstructed views will mean they will go faster

As I've said, contact the council.

You obviously cannot do any work to realign a public road.

the hedgeman

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If you offer to surrender/pull the front boundary of a site back from the existing road to straighten a bend in a local road(it has an L in the road number) will the Planning Authorities allow the established entrance to a residential site be moved. Are they amenable to this in general?
The effect would be to turn a gentle bend with an obstructed view in to a straight road without obstructed view.

Is The main thing you want to do is move established entrance on the road

the hedgeman

the hedgeman wrote: »

Is The main thing you want to do is move established entrance on the road

Yes, few metres to the side, not to opposite side of the front of site.

the hedgeman

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Yes, few metres to the side, not to opposite side of the front of site.

That should be no problem if the site/land along the road belongs to you

sydthebeat

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Yes, few metres to the side, not to opposite side of the front of site.

That requires planning permission

My question was "Are they amenable to this in general?". The need to do it "officially" was not in question.

sydthebeat

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My question was "Are they amenable to this in general?". The need to do it "officially" was not in question.

Completely site specific.

And ive already told you why this might not be seen as a good idea

sydthebeat

You need to make the argument as to why you want to move the existing entrance.

Is it unsafe? If so, proof will be needed to be provided.

Will the new location be safer?
Again, proof will be required to argue this

Naturally, it is site specific but the question was an open question which would have hopefully elicited responses outlining prior experience in similar situations or approaches to the problem which maximise the likelyhood of success when dealing with the planning authorities.

the hedgeman

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My question was "Are they amenable to this in general?". The need to do it "officially" was not in question.

If it's all part of improving your line of sight onto the road,all the better.

sydthebeat

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Naturally, it is site specific but the question was an open question which would have hopefully elicited responses outlining prior experience in similar situations or approaches to the problem which maximise the likelyhood of success when dealing with the planning authorities.

How do we know of "similar situations" when the question is very site specific?
Those two things are contradictory.

The topography will be the determining factor in any sick application, and as of now, only you know the topography.

I've already given you one reason why the council may not look favourably on such an application. Likewise they may not look favourably on straightening the road.

The burden of proof is on the applicant to make the argument

sydthebeat

the hedgeman wrote: »

If it's all part of improving your line of sight onto the road,all the better.

Not in every situation.

Many councils prefer to retain hedging and road orientation as natural speed restrictions.

the hedgeman

sydthebeat wrote: »

Not in every situation.

Many councils prefer to retain hedging and road orientation as natural speed restrictions.

In most cases cutting hedges well back on ditches along these local roads reveals wide grass margins along the road anyway

Penn

Syd is right though, its almost impossible to say if councils are amenable to this in general because there are far too many site-specific variables to be taken into account. Also important to note that realigning the road will also affect any landowners on the other side of the road. Are there any entrances along that side of the road? Will it affect their boundaries? Will it create too deep a grass verge on that side?

There's too many variables. The only people who could give you any inclination in this case are the council themselves.

the hedgeman

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The effect would be to turn a gentle bend with an obstructed view in to a straight road without obstructed view.

If the hedgerow was cut down near enough to the top of ditch around the bend,the view going around that bend would be way better as ditches are low by nature anyway without high hedges

landcrzr

Op, you just need to apply for planning permission clearly stating the new sight lines achieved. The Road safety element will be evaluated by the area engineer who will assess the sight lines claimed.
Bear in mind that you will then need to complete the new layby/setback in macadam and replace the roadside drain at your own cost. Be careful also about exposing any eir or esb poles, you'll be responsible for getting these moved back. This can be expensive.

Telephone and esb are on farside. Water is on this side although they would be happier with easier access to it.

Markcheese

Would the op need planning to remove or move a roadside hedge ( and probably earthen bank ) ?
He wouldn't have altered the road at all, just staightened his own hedge

Markcheese

Markcheese wrote: »

Would the op need planning to remove or move a roadside hedge ( and probably earthen bank ) ?
He wouldn't have altered the road at all, just staightened his own hedge

There is no hedge. It is a bank of earth with concrete pailing and some conifers on top of it.

sydthebeat

Markcheese wrote: »

Would the op need planning to remove or move a roadside hedge ( and probably earthen bank ) ?
He wouldn't have altered the road at all, just staightened his own hedge

The OP said they wanted to move the entrance. That's what requires permission.

Permission is also required if more than 1.0 m depth of the existing topography is altered