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Honda Civic hatch - v - Toyota Corolla saloon 2017 petrol model

  • 24-12-2020 6:31am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭


    Upgrading the family bus from a Corolla Verso (2006)1.6 petrol which we have owned for the last 11 yrs and thinking of the above. Mrs Woods will be driving my Kia Sportage and I will drive the new car. Took a Civic 1.0 for a test drive and fell in love and the golf clubs fit comfortably in the boot as well. Any thoughts or anything to be aware of. Planning on keeping the car 10+ years. I was planning on going for the Corolla but the Civic really impressed me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Civic is a small turbocharged engine, so is inherently more complicated and likely to go wrong than what you had before.
    That’s not to say it will go wrong, but the risk is much higher.

    The Corolla hybrid for example, even though it is also complicated - has a drivetrain that’s proven to be capable of high mileage with minimal maintenance and repairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Civic is a small turbocharged engine, so is inherently more complicated and likely to go wrong than what you had before.
    That’s not to say it will go wrong, but the risk is much higher.

    The Corolla hybrid for example, even though it is also complicated - has a drivetrain that’s proven to be capable of high mileage with minimal maintenance and repairs.

    Being a Honda engine though, in all probability it won't go wrong. I'd take a Civic all day long over a Corolla but everyone is different I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Being a Honda engine though, in all probability it won't go wrong. I'd take a Civic all day long over a Corolla but everyone is different I guess.

    Ref the reliability on the Honda, yes they have a great reputation but turbocharging petrols is a relatively new thing for them so the reputation wasn’t built on them.
    They certainly had enough issues in the US with their 1.5 turbo.

    The likes of the 1.8 in the Corolla isn’t working anywhere near as hard as the 1.0 in the Civic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It should be noted that if your looking at 2017 examples of both, the Corolla model would have been around since 2013 whereas the Civic model was only launched in 2017 so is a more modern design (as well as controversial). The tech is also better and will have Android Auto/Apple Car Play over the Corolla if that's important to you. Corolla is also a saloon so the mouth of the boot is going to be limited compared to the hatchback of the Civic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭tigerwoods


    Thank you for all your comments. The Corolla has a well earned reputation even though I don't think the quality is as good as years gone by, driving behind 99D in traffic the other day and looked in great nic also styling of the 2017 saloon is very bland. A little bit hesitant with regard to the engine as it needs to be revved to get a decent performance but my days of trashing a car are well and truly over. The garage that I hope to purchase from is a main Honda dealer and when I queried if he had many 201's going out the look on his face said it all, absolutely dead between the pandemic and people unsure about electric, petrol/hybrid or diesel and brexit. After some consideration I think its time for a change so hopefully Honda for me if Mrs. Woods agrees.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Go drive the new Octavia too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Is the OP buying brand new or looking at 2017 models?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭tigerwoods


    No, second hand. Max budget is 18k inc trade in . Must be petrol,fit golf clubs, 4/5 door and aiming to keep it for 10+ yrs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭bliger


    go for auris touring hybrid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭who_ru


    tigerwoods wrote: »
    No, second hand. Max budget is 18k inc trade in . Must be petrol,fit golf clubs, 4/5 door and aiming to keep it for 10+ yrs.


    mazda 3 2.0l petrol?. no turbo charger. 2017. reliable engine.


    https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2646380&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D51%26o%5B%5D%3D%26f%3D1%26yn%3D2017%26yx%3D2017%26g%3D0


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Blue850


    The 2017 Corolla petrol is a 1.33 with 6 speed box which is gutless to the point of being dangerous. My wife has one and to be honest its an inferior car to the 2001 Avensis it replaced. Now its given no trouble in 4 years and 80,000kms but the ride is harsh and road noise from the tyres is woeful.If I have the choice of the 2 cars in the household I bring the 04 Octavia with 1/4 million miles on it before the Corolla. It does about 6.9l/100kms although my missus forgets it has a 6th gear...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭bodonnell


    I'm on my second 1.5t civic.
    First 2018 with about 78k kms & no issues, 15k on 2020 & no issues.
    Not sure what problems Colm was referring to in the Us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭tigerwoods


    I took a test drive in 17D Corolla 1.4 petrol and it is an absolute dog, dull as ditch water also very similar experience in a 1.6 diesel Avensis with both cars feeling very under powered. Very nervous of a hybrid as neighbour had his cat converter swiped from his 202D Corolla. Will go for the Civic, would love the 1.5 but budget won't stretch that far.


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