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Are you assertive?

  • 22-12-2020 06:59PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭


    It's something I'm trying to work on myself at the moment, I was what you would call a doormat growing up; often my parents would ask for my opinion of something/to do something and when I said no they would just tell me to do it anyway. It made me feel like my opinion was worthless, then after a while, I just said nothing or "we'll see" to avoid the questions.

    How goes the battle with you? Can you stand your ground against everyone or do you have difficulties with parents/work/strangers/etc?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,160 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I would be but sometimes I have to “remind” myself to be assertive

    I had a complete charlatan con man of a direct manager for a few months this year - he was found out thankfully but it took too long imho - turned out he seriously decieved employer on a number of fronts. but while I was under “his management” I had to snap out of it now and then and remind myself he was a complete and utter bluffer who hadn’t a breeze (he kept referring to bs sales techniques that worked in his original country of South Africa) so I totally I was a bit shell shocked initially when listening to his clap trap rubbish.

    Then I grew a pair as the saying goes and asserted myself and basically told him in a diplomatic way he was talking sheeet when appropriate.

    Tldr- work in Progress but getting better at it


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've learned that most people are more foolish than me.. I'm still foolish but they are generally worse.

    So, being assertive isn't hard. :D


  • Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Definite doormat in my youth but a lot of things have changed that around completely. Learning to fight was one. Learning close up magic and hypnotism and NLP style things was another. And finally the internal mantra of "I am not better than anyone - and no one is better than me" repeated often enough in my mind has finally started to stick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭valor rorghulis


    I've gotten better on it. Jordan Peterson's lectures on agreeableness helped me a lot (on youtube)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Sorry.

    I meant to reply to this days ago.

    Yes, I'm assertive!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 165 ✭✭Deemed as Normal


    Ekerot wrote: »
    How goes the battle with you? Can you stand your ground against everyone or do you have difficulties with parents/work/strangers/etc?
    Funnily enough, parents are the least of my worries. Once you know people very well, you get to know their tactics. It becomes very easy to stand up for yourself... to such an extent that you think you could handle anyone else just as easily. When you come across a new bully who has tactics that you haven't come across too often it can be harder.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Depends on context of course, but yes I'd be assertive more than not.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,443 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    I dont know..
    maybe, sometimes i think i can be. Not sure though..

    What do you think ?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    I find that the threat of a good boot in the fanny\bollix is a much more effective tool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 Haraldkare


    Like you, I am not naturally but am trying to work on it. I'm the guy that will keep changing direction while walking towards you on a footpath thinking "they're going left... no, right" and end up walking into you.

    Now I just pick one side and stick with it. So I only walk into assertive people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Ekerot


    greenspurs wrote: »
    I dont know..
    maybe, sometimes i think i can be. Not sure though..

    What do you think ?

    I thought you were reciting the Malcolm in the Middle theme song there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Yes I am, unless you say I’m not, then I’m probably not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    Yes I have become more so in work anyway as things need to be done on time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Marcos


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Depends on context of course, but yes I'd be assertive more than not.

    You? :eek: No. ;)

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    Yes, But imo assertiveness is best coupled with emotional intelligence /empathy. I know plenty of overly 'assertive' people who are on the dole because they said the wrong thing at the wrong time to the wrong person.

    If you need to say something and you are not in a mad aggro state, just say it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 165 ✭✭Deemed as Normal


    I've gotten better on it. Jordan Peterson's lectures on agreeableness helped me a lot (on youtube)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o847bCPAdys&list=WL&index=129&ab_channel=DavidPakmanShow


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