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Jury Duty, does my employer get reimbursed my wages?

  • 14-12-2020 9:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭


    I'm been called up to do jury duty and I've no problem doing it but I'm worried about my employer. It's just the two of us and I know he won't be able to afford the expense of me doing jury duty . But he says it's fine and that they reimburse him the cost of my wages. Is this true? As I don't want him to be caught out.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    Not true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    Just tell them you can't do it, make up some excuse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Get him to write you a letter and send a copy to court services asking to be excused because you are needed to keep the business going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    If you ABSOLUTELY dont want to do jury duty, it is fairly easy to get out of.
    Read all the paper work provided, one or more of those conditions apply to you.
    I have been called three times every time I got out of it for a different reason.

    The only people who sit on juries are people who want to sit on juries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    It's a civic duty which you should do if you can, as a representative of the general public, so I don't think the last comment is fair about the "only people who sit on juries"

    However, op, sounds like it really doesn't suit you, so as told above, send them as letter citing as said in the earlier posts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Do you think it is fair to the judge, plaintiff, defendant and other officers in the the court to have either a disgruntled, disinterested or not a fully committed jourer? I would imagine it would take massive levels of concentration and observance. The last person I would want on a jury is a frank Gallagher type who would want to find the fastest answer. If you are not fit for jury service, you should not serve.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Just tell them you can't do it, make up some excuse

    Loads of reasons why you can't do it!
    Member of the defence forces, psychiatric nurse, pharmacist, autism, mental health, know any party involved. Read the fine print.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    First time I was asked, I sent a letter from my manager saying they'd appreciate if I could be excused as I was needed at work. No problem.

    Second time, I replied saying my mental health wasn't great, got excused that time too (they didn't ask for a medical letter, but I could easily have gotten one). Haven't been asked since, I don't know if mental illness precludes you permanently. Pity if so, I'd actually quite like to do it some day (now that my mental health issues are under control.)

    Basically if you don't want to do it, they're not going to force you, as long as you've got a decent reason.

    Never heard of employers being reimbursed your wages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭DJIMI TRARORE


    Never heard of employers being reimbursed your wages.


    Do u not get expenses, and good ones at that,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭wench


    Do u not get expenses, and good ones at that,
    No, you just get lunch provided, that's it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    First time I was asked, I sent a letter from my manager saying they'd appreciate if I could be excused as I was needed at work. No problem.

    Second time, I replied saying my mental health wasn't great, got excused that time too (they didn't ask for a medical letter, but I could easily have gotten one). Haven't been asked since, I don't know if mental illness precludes you permanently. Pity if so, I'd actually quite like to do it some day (now that my mental health issues are under control.)

    Basically if you don't want to do it, they're not going to force you, as long as you've got a decent reason.

    Never heard of employers being reimbursed your wages.

    Same here, I've been asked 3 times, the second time I wrote a long winded letter about being afraid of meeting new people and social interactions and having borderline agoraphobia, the 3ed time I got the summons I put it in my drawer and completely forgot about it until I came across it a year later, I never heard anything back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    For anyone who didn’t know your House Insurance often covers you for jury duty at a daily rate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    wench wrote: »
    No, you just get lunch provided, that's it.

    that's only if you actually sit on a jury


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    that's only if you actually sit on a jury

    So you could be sitting in the jury pool for a week reading Tom Clancy novels, waiting for a jury selection that may never come?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    quite possibly !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭veetwin


    Heard from someone in the know the only people who do jury duty are public servants (who get paid anyway), students and retired people. Makes sense as it's remarkably easy to get out of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,041 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    GBX wrote: »
    Get him to write you a letter and send a copy to court services asking to be excused because you are needed to keep the business going.
    I used to write letters for our employees requesting that they be exempted but, about 10 years ago, we were contacted by the Courts Service and informed that I was to discontinue doing so. In fairness, it was always at the request of employees that I wrote the letters rather than for the employer. Some of our staff have been out for many weeks on jury service.

    (I'd like to be called myself but, unfortunately, I'm automatically exempted.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Evd-Burner


    I had the same issue a number of years ago. Just me and the owner in a startup, if I was out for dury duty the company would have stopped in its tracks.

    I wrote a letter in explaining the situation and I was excused.

    I was also called as a student, I did want to do it, only issue was that it fell on the week of summer exams, so again I had to send a letter and I was excused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    I used to write letters for our employees requesting that they be exempted but, about 10 years ago, we were contacted by the Courts Service and informed that I was to discontinue doing so. In fairness, it was always at the request of employees that I wrote the letters rather than for the employer. Some of our staff have been out for many weeks on jury service.

    (I'd like to be called myself but, unfortunately, I'm automatically exempted.)

    what would make someone auto exempt. not you specifically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,004 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    what would make someone auto exempt. not you specifically
    A number of people are ineligible for jury service:
    • Uachtarán na hÉireann (I'm guessing that one's no help to you)
    • Most people who work in or are involved with the justice system (judges, guards, lawyers, prison officers, etc)
    • Members of the defence forces
    • People who can't read
    • People with an impairment/disabilty that would prevent them from performing a juror's duties
    • People who have been sentenced to a term of 5 years or more, ever
    • People who have served a term of 3 months or more, within the past 10 years.

    Ineligible people cannot serve on a jury even if they want to.

    Then you have people who are elibigible to serve, but entitled to be exempted if they want to be:
    • Anyone over 65
    • School/college principals
    • Full-time students
    • Teaching staff, if the principal certifies that they can't be spared
    • Practising medical practitioners, dentists, nurses, midwifes, vets, pharmacists
    • Ministers or religion; members of religious orders
    • TDs and Senators; senior Oireachtas staff; other Oireachtas staff if the Clerk of the Dáil/Seanad certifies that they can't be spared
    • The head of a Government Department; other departmental staff if the Head of Department certifies that they can't be spared
    • The head of a local authority, health board, harbour board, etc; other staff if the head certifies that they can't be spared
    • Ships' masters; licensed pilots
    • Anyone who previously served on a jury, and was excused from further service by the judge on that occasion. (This sometimes happens if you serve on a jury for a particularly demanding trial.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Yyhhuuu


    It's called Jury Service. This is the term in the Law.

    JURY DUTY is an American term. I have never heard it used in the Courts I frequent, just saying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    A number of people are ineligible for jury service:
    • Uachtarán na hÉireann (I'm guessing that one's no help to you)
    • Most people who work in or are involved with the justice system (judges, guards, lawyers, prison officers, etc)
    • Members of the defence forces
    • People who can't read
    • People with an impairment/disabilty that would prevent them from performing a juror's duties
    • People who have been sentenced to a term of 5 years or more, ever
    • People who have served a term of 3 months or more, within the past 10 years.

    Ineligible people cannot serve on a jury even if they want to.

    Then you have people who are elibigible to serve, but entitled to be exempted if they want to be:
    • Anyone over 65
    • School/college principals
    • Full-time students
    • Teaching staff, if the principal certifies that they can't be spared
    • Practising medical practitioners, dentists, nurses, midwifes, vets, pharmacists
    • Ministers or religion; members of religious orders
    • TDs and Senators; senior Oireachtas staff; other Oireachtas staff if the Clerk of the Dáil/Seanad certifies that they can't be spared
    • The head of a Government Department; other departmental staff if the Head of Department certifies that they can't be spared
    • The head of a local authority, health board, harbour board, etc; other staff if the head certifies that they can't be spared
    • Ships' masters; licensed pilots
    • Anyone who previously served on a jury, and was excused from further service by the judge on that occasion. (This sometimes happens if you serve on a jury for a particularly demanding trial.)

    That covers a load of areas. If you cant get out of it that way there are still more. If you know anyone on either side involved in the case. You can always get a medical cert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Yyhhuuu wrote: »
    It's called Jury Service. This is the term in the Law.

    JURY DUTY is an American term. I have never heard it used in the Courts I frequent, just saying.

    Who cares? Certainly no need to SHOUT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Yyhhuuu


    Mimon wrote: »
    Who cares? Certainly no need to SHOUT.

    I wasnt shouting. It's called Jury Service just saying. I suppose I should call nappies diapers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Squiggle


    Was called a few years ago but got exempted because of a Hospital appointment for the day after I was due to attend.

    I thought it was strange that registered post wasn't used and would lend itself to no shows. Maybe they factor that in when calling up potential jurors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,548 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    If you go to the call for jury service wearing a suit you will be challenged by the defence and won't have to sit as a juror.
    The following excuses work:-

    I, I ,I have, have , have a, a, a spp sppe each imm immpp edd imm ent.

    I am hard of hearing

    I think I recognise the name and address of one or more of the witnesses.

    I have a holiday booked for next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    If you go to the call for jury service wearing a suit you will be challenged by the defence and won't have to sit as a juror.
    The following excuses work:-

    I, I ,I have, have , have a, a, a spp sppe each imm immpp edd imm ent.

    I am hard of hearing

    I think I recognise the name and address of one or more of the witnesses.

    I have a holiday booked for next week.

    Why would the suite get you challenged over other clothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭wench


    I have a holiday booked for next week.
    That would probably get you arrested these days!

    Also, some cases are only a day or two, so it may not actually get you out of it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,548 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Why would the suite get you challenged over other clothing

    Defence counsel and solicitors don't want respectable people on juries. They are more inclined to convict.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Squiggle wrote: »
    Was called a few years ago but got exempted because of a Hospital appointment for the day after I was due to attend.

    I thought it was strange that registered post wasn't used and would lend itself to no shows. Maybe they factor that in when calling up potential jurors?

    They probably call up 500 people, hope they get about 80 to draw a pool of 3 set of 12 jurors for the weeks trials. My wife has been called three times and spent the weeks reading various novels.


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