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Extending into back garden - neighbouring vent

  • 12-12-2020 11:20pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭


    Hi, I'm looking at this property and notice that the neighbouring extension has a vent which vents into the back yard of the property in question. There does not seen to be any evidence of a planning application for this extension, so presumably planning was not required given its size?

    Would that vent have the potential to disrupt building a corresponding extension for this property? I'm not sure how it might work, given the existing vent would need to be rerouted?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,523 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Yes would be smaller than what is required to get planning permission for.

    I'd not really be happy about the vent though, looks to be possible venting for kitchen hob, could mean back garden stinking up with whatever is being cooked each day.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,565 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    The vent should not have been out there in the first place.
    But, this has the potential to not only stop you building but also stop you buying the house as the current neighbors have allowed it for some time so the offending neighbor may not take lightly to the “new” neighbors demanding them to alter their house even though you are in the right.

    I’d ask the vendor to confirm the legal position of the vent as it’s current position prevents you from extending in the future.

    See will that kick start someone into doing something.

    Realistically, you. We’d the neighbor to
    Move the vent to the roof. It’s most likely an extractor fan if it’s a kitchen extension.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    Thanks. That is exactly my concern, i.e. it would prevent a future extension...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭dathi


    judging by the distance between the two upstairs toilet windows the extension was built way over the party line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,535 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    dathi wrote: »
    judging by the distance between the two upstairs toilet windows the extension was built way over the party line

    Looks like they took the downpipe as the property divide, where it should extend about 6 inches beyond the gutter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭Unknownability


    The house to the right, hardly converted the attic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    dathi wrote: »
    judging by the distance between the two upstairs toilet windows the extension was built way over the party line
    Judging by the position of the fence, the wall of the extension straddles the boundary line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭purelike


    That was not a smart place for the neighbour to put their vent, and if someone wants to extend the house in question it may cause problems. As Gumbo mentions, push the question back onto the vendor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭SC024


    Thanks. That is exactly my concern, i.e. it would prevent a future extension...

    not necessarily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Be careful with that neighbors extension if you do decide to extend. That flat roof style looks familiar.

    We extended (proper foundations and all that). While they were digging down they spotted the neighbors extension was practically built with no foundations. They said they had to work quick with putting cement or their side could cave in. The builder said this was very common in the area.
    After 10 years their extension is now subsiding.

    If we could do it all again (knowing we would be moving anyway) we wouldn't have bothered pumping tens of thousands into an extension that maybe only put about 30k into the value.


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  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Judging by the position of the fence, the wall of the extension straddles the boundary line.

    Should be well inside that fence going by the windows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    Should be well inside that fence going by the windows.
    Assuming a regular 300mm cavity wall, then it looks centred on the
    boundary line to me.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,565 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Should be well inside that fence going by the windows.

    Not necessarily.
    Look at the house to the right. It’s next neighbor also has a smaller gap to their small window which would make it appear to be the norm and no oversailing occurred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭dathi


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Not necessarily.
    Look at the house to the right. It’s next neighbor also has a smaller gap to their small window which would make it appear to be the norm and no oversailing occurred.

    house on the right has clearly built inside the boundary as you can see the original concrete boundary wall that the small concrete shed is built into as a lean to this makes the window gap upstairs look smaller however the house on the left has built across the boundary which can be clearly seen in upstairs windows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭mountai


    It appears that the wall in question is built on the existing boundary line . This would have to have been done with the permission of the owners of the house you are interested in . It would be possible , that you could use this wall as a dividing wall and only have to build the rear and other side wall . It would require permission from owners as the parapet would have to be extended above the roof line to conform with building regs . The vent would have to be rerouted through the roof as previously stated , a simple job .
    Usually , when a job like this has been done , using the boundary as the construction line , it would be agreed with the understanding that the wall is allowable by the other party to form part of their future construction . I personally had this arrangement with the next door neighbor , and things worked out fine .


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,565 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    dathi wrote: »
    house on the right has clearly built inside the boundary as you can see the original concrete boundary wall that the small concrete shed is built into as a lean to this makes the window gap upstairs look smaller however the house on the left has built across the boundary which can be clearly seen in upstairs windows

    You’ve clearly missed my point.
    Look at the opposite side.

    Look at the distance to the upstairs bathroom windows on the 2 properties that have the smaller window on the left hand side. They are smaller than the neighbouring properties and appear to match on 2 separate houses so boundary could be fine.

    It’s not clear at all.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭dathi


    Gumbo wrote: »
    You’ve clearly missed my point.
    Look at the opposite side.

    Look at the distance to the upstairs bathroom windows on the 2 properties that have the smaller window on the left hand side. They are smaller than the neighbouring properties and appear to match on 2 separate houses so boundary could be fine.

    It’s not clear at all.
    ]

    will agree to disagree as the downpipe for gutters are not the boundary they are wholly inside one property what i like is when they did up the bathroom they connected the sink to the gutter down pipe


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