Mayo publician hero

Bowlardo

Anyone listened to the radio about the hero bring on site testing to his pub.
Makes 100% sense

For Forks Sake

Up next, sports

elperello

Like one of his pints of stout - I'd let it settle a while before declaring him a hero.

gifted

Like the football team....fade out before closing time...

Bowlardo

elperello wrote: »

Like one of his pints of stout - I'd let it settle a while before declaring him a hero.

I honestly can’t find any holes in his argument

un5byh7sqpd2x0

He’ll be shut down on day 1.

Allinall

Attention seeking twat.

Like that fellow in Limerick in the first lockdown who said he was refusing to close. Opened for about two hours and then shut with his tail between his legs.

This guy will be the same.

Oops!

When is he opening?

Jinglejangle69

Allinall wrote: »

Attention seeking twat.

Like that fellow in Limerick in the first lockdown who said he was refusing to close. Opened for about two hours and then shut with his tail between his legs.

This guy will be the same.

Attention seeking is now the new description of trying to make a living and feed your family?

I'm gonna guess your job has been safe the last 9 months.

hynesie08

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Attention seeking is now the new description of trying to make a living and feed your family?

I'm gonna guess your job has been safe the last 9 months.

But he's not trying to make a living, if he even opened his doors today, he'd be shut down immediately. It's a publicity stunt, no more, no less.

Church on Tuesday

gifted wrote: »

Like the football team....fade out before closing time...

Not a chance, this is our year.























I hope.

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Attention seeking is now the new description of trying to make a living and feed your family?

I'm gonna guess your job has been safe the last 9 months.

Some people are incapable of minding their own business, especially those cloistered in secure jobs from home. More power to this fella for trying it on, even if he doesn't succeed. Nothing to lose and everything to gain, hopefully others follow in his footsteps. The traditional publicans have been abandoned in this country, they deserve every bit of our moral and financial support.

punisher5112

Matt Damon

tdf7187

What's a publician?

Spanish Eyes

Food pubs that are open at the moment do not insist on you partaking of food. Well that's my experience, although we do eat.

Seems to me that all pubs need a working kitchen and chef, and away you go whether you eat or not.

Sad for those without these facilities, but it seems to be the way policy is going.

Bowlardo

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Food pubs that are open at the moment do not insist on you partaking of food. Well that's my experience, although we do eat.

Seems to me that all pubs need a working kitchen and chef, and away you go whether you eat or not.

Sad for those without these facilities, but it seems to be the way policy is going.

Have you listen d to radio clip.
I was really impressed I was expecting a healy-Rae go even type fella and then by then end of it I thought this guy was 100% right.

Worth listening too

Oops!

Where can we hear this radio clip?

Aongus Von Bismarck

We had 590 people die here in Germany yesterday due to COVID-19. A lot of this has been linked back to the decision made by some of the federations to reopen pubs and restaurants back in October/November. Gombeens like this lad in Ireland trying to make a stand are doing nothing only adding to the collective misery of the nation.

elperello

Oops! wrote: »

Where can we hear this radio clip?

He was on Claire Byrne and Newstalk you'll get them on the podcasts.

hynesie08

Did he even try to open? Or did he get the attention he wanted??

Bowlardo

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

We had 590 people die here in Germany yesterday due to COVID-19. A lot of this has been linked back to the decision made by some of the federations to reopen pubs and restaurants back in October/November. Gombeens like this lad in Ireland trying to make a stand are doing nothing only adding to the collective misery of the nation.

Have you listened to what he proposed?
Have you listened to the interview?
I highly suspect you haven’t
Could you tell me how are you going to get covid when everyone has been tested not two hours before with W.H.O approved test that are 99.9% accurate and the amount not people you are near for the remainder of the night are people who have been tested

Bowlardo

hynesie08 wrote: »

Did he even try to open? Or did he get the attention he wanted??

https://www.goloudnow.com/pod-254675

Bowlardo

elperello wrote: »

He was on Claire Byrne and Newstalk you'll get them on the podcasts.[/https://www.goloudnow.com/pod-254675

Strumms

Deleted User wrote: »

Some people are incapable of minding their own business, especially those cloistered in secure jobs from home. More power to this fella for trying it on, even if he doesn't succeed. Nothing to lose and everything to gain, hopefully others follow in his footsteps. The traditional publicans have been abandoned in this country, they deserve every bit of our moral and financial support.

They haven’t been abandoned... they can avail of the same help as anyone else who couldn’t go to work...

If people are trying it on and endangering even potentially society and the health thereof then it’s everybody’s business and those with concerns or who have a view are entitled to express it however they see fit. It’s a democracy.

They have financial support... moral support ? ...

Bowlardo

Strumms wrote: »

They haven’t been abandoned... they can avail of the same help as anyone else who couldn’t go to work...

If people are trying it on and endangering even potentially society and the health thereof then it’s everybody’s business and those with concerns or who have a view are entitled to express it however they see fit. It’s a democracy.

They have financial support... moral support ? ...

You haven't listened to the interview
How at the endangering people?
Please !often to the interview and come back to me with an explanation of how they are endangering people

hynesie08

Bowlardo wrote: »

https://www.goloudnow.com/pod-254675

Yes, great, but did he actually open the doors tonight? Was he allowed open?

Strumms

Bowlardo wrote: »

You haven't listened to the interview
How at the endangering people?
Please !often to the interview and come back to me with an explanation of how they are endangering people

I did listen to most of it.

Because like most publicans he won’t be turning away regulars.

Like most publicans he won’t be ensuring testing is done when the place is heaving...it will be all hands ‘to the pump’

According to the HSE and HIQA...this type of ‘rapid testing’ has in their words...‘reduced diagnostic accuracy ‘

This info is available to him, like anyone with the internet.... but.... he likes money and wants more of it.

Bowlardo

Strumms wrote: »

I did listen to most of it.

Because like most publicans he won’t be turning away regulars.

Like most publicans he won’t be ensuring testing is done when the place is heaving...it will be all hands ‘to the pump’

According to the HSE and HIQA...this type of ‘rapid testing’ has in their words...‘reduced diagnostic accuracy ‘

This info is available to him, like anyone with the internet.... but.... he likes money and wants more of it.

Tests are done between 5pm-7pm
You then enter the pub
The pub is a local country pub that can fit 20-30 max
Only people from the area are allowed in
He is paying qualified staff to do the tests
If you are the pub it doesn't matter as everyone there was test with a test that is 99.9% accuracy

JP Liz V1

Is the curse broken, is it their year

Strumms

Bowlardo wrote: »

Tests are done between 5pm-7pm
You then enter the pub
The pub is a local country pub that can fit 20-30 max
Only people from the area are allowed in
He is paying qualified staff to do the tests
If you are the pub it doesn't matter as everyone there was test with a test that is 99.9% accuracy

Tests between 5-7 hmmm... that will be adhered to for about 3 days.

Can distancing be maintained ?..not after alcohol

Only people from the area ? That will guarantee zero covid transmission? Only people from the area ? So as well as not caring about covid he doesn’t care about the fact that that can and would be viewed as discrimination? Ie. Against the law ? If I have a barber shop and a fella walks in “ nope, don’t know you, not from around here “... illegal..

StupidLikeAFox

Strumms wrote: »

Tests between 5-7 hmmm... that will be adhered to for about 3 days.

Can distancing be maintained ?..not after alcohol

Only people from the area ? That will guarantee zero covid transmission? Only people from the area ? So as well as not caring about covid he doesn’t care about the fact that that can and would be viewed as discrimination? Ie. Against the law ? If I have a barber shop and a fella walks in “ nope, don’t know you, not from around here “... illegal..

That isn't actually illegal

kenmc

Well he got himself arrested anyway
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/publican-who-opened-with-covid-testing-is-arrested-39850819.html

un5byh7sqpd2x0

Gracelynn Alive Walkway wrote: »

He’ll be shut down on day 1.

As I suspected....

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/publican-behind-irelands-first-covid-free-pub-arrested-1049704.html

The Tetrarch

COVID FREE pub

Free Covid with every pint.

freshpopcorn

The Tetrarch wrote: »

COVID FREE pub

Free Covid with every pint.

But not free if you purchase a meal!

Zebra3

Strumms wrote: »

Tests between 5-7 hmmm... that will be adhered to for about 3 days.

Can distancing be maintained ?..not after alcohol

Only people from the area ? That will guarantee zero covid transmission? Only people from the area ? So as well as not caring about covid he doesn’t care about the fact that that can and would be viewed as discrimination? Ie. Against the law ? If I have a barber shop and a fella walks in “ nope, don’t know you, not from around here “... illegal..

But the 9€ magic meal would give better protection?

Even if not eaten?

Allinall

Zebra3 wrote: »

But the 9€ magic meal would give better protection?

Even if not eaten?

Don’t even pretend not to understand why a substantial meal should be had with drinks.

You’ll just look really foolish.

Ya don't ask, ya don't get.

Dempo1

I confess to not hearing interview but was aware of the story, I'm somewhat baffled by this. Firstly who paid for the tests, secondly who did the tests and thirdly how long did these tests take. More alarming is the fact that these tests, similar to those used for travel purposes don't appear to have the confidence of public health officials, also, getting whatever test, doesn't mean you can't catch the virus.

I admire the initiative but have to say, bizzare, alarming and really questionable. I've this strange image in my mind of punters waiting in smoking areas for test results, just Odd in the extreme.

mickdw

Testing is not the magic solution.
If a test could immediately declare a person safe, there would be no quarantine anywhere just simple 10 minute test and freedom.

Testing everyone entering a pub is surely a help but far from a guarantee of being covid free.

Martina1991

Dempo1 wrote: »

I confess to not hearing interview but was aware of the story, I'm somewhat baffled by this. Firstly who paid for the tests, secondly who did the tests and thirdly how long did these tests take. More alarming is the fact that these tests, similar to those used for travel purposes don't appear to have the confidence of public health officials, also, getting whatever test, doesn't mean you can't catch the virus.

I posted this on the main Covid thread but I'll repeat it here.

This pub was apparently using tests they bought from a company based in Claremorris called Communicare Medical Supplies. They have no information on their website as to what Covid tests they sell, what they measure or how accurate they are. Any claims of being 99% accurate are likely from the manufacturer themselves and cannot be trusted to apply to a real life setting.

These rapid tests havent been approved for use by the HSE. Any positive results from this pub would therefore not be reported to the HSPC or be contact traced. Its completely uncontrolled.

These rapid tests have poor sensitivity. They WILL miss cases due to not being able to detect low levels of the virus. You have to be highly infectious and likely symptomatic to produce a positive result. Anyone displaying Covid symptoms shouldn't be anywhere near a pub.

Also this pub in Aghamore is not far from Claremorris which currently has one of the highest incidence of Covid cases in the country. With Covid circulating in the community, using this test would lead to a false sense of security and could lead to further transmission.

It was a stupid idea and was always going to lead to trouble.

Strumms

Martina1991 wrote: »

I posted this on the main Covid thread but I'll repeat it here.

This pub was apparently using tests they bought from a company based in Claremorris called Communicare Medical Supplies. They have no information on their website as to what Covid tests they sell, what they measure or how accurate they are. Any claims of being 99% accurate are likely from the manufacturer themselves and cannot be trusted to apply to a real life setting.

These rapid tests havent been approved for use by the HSE. Any positive results from this pub would therefore not be reported to the HSPC or be contact traced. Its completely uncontrolled.

These rapid tests have poor sensitivity. They WILL miss cases due to not being able to detect low levels of the virus. You have to be highly infectious and likely symptomatic to produce a positive result. Anyone displaying Covid symptoms shouldn't be anywhere near a pub.

Also this pub in Aghamore is not far from Claremorris which currently has one of the highest incidence of Covid cases in the country. With Covid circulating in the community, using this test would lead to a false sense of security and could lead to further transmission.

It was a stupid idea and was always going to lead to trouble.

I’m my opinion the HPRA should be advising what COVID tests.. kits, instruments or devices are approved and kosher...this becomes known via laboratory testing.. any company using a kit or device not submitted for approval and not approved by the HPRA... you are in breach of the law... will be summoned to appear before a judge..it’s a medical device so my understanding is that it falls under this legislation. I can’t decide I’m making a heart rate monitor to be sold to a hospital, or a painkiller... without it being submitted for testing and approval.... makes sense that the HPRA should and even DO oversee these kits / devices, if not they need that power...

CrabRevolution

Strumms wrote: »

I’m my opinion the HPRA should be advising what COVID tests.. kits, instruments or devices are approved and kosher...this becomes known via laboratory testing.. any company using a kit or device not submitted for approval and not approved by the HPRA... you are in breach of the law... will be summoned to appear before a judge..it’s a medical device so my understanding is that it falls under this legislation. I can’t decide I’m making a heart rate monitor to be sold to a hospital, or a painkiller... without it being submitted for testing and approval.... makes sense that the HPRA should and even DO oversee these kits / devices, if not they need that power...

Doubt it falls under the definition of a medical device as its primary function is achieved solely through pharmacological action.

Even then I'd wager that there's a disclaimer as long as your arm stating "Not a medical test, not for diagnostic use, positive results are not a guarantee of disease, negative results not a guarantee of health, not to be used as proof of or lack of disease, consult your doctor for a real test etc."

dotsman

Allinall wrote: »

Don’t even pretend not to understand why a substantial meal should be had with drinks.

You’ll just look really foolish.

Maybe I will end up looking "really foolish", but I'll bite...

Please, do explain to us why a substantial meal should be had with drinks.

dotsman

dotsman wrote: »

Maybe I will end up looking "really foolish", but I'll bite...

Please, do explain to us why a substantial meal should be had with drinks.

It's to stop you getting C19.
An 8.99 meal would put you at risk of infection

JJayoo

How expensive are these tests? How many pints would paddy have to buy so the pub owner would recoup the cost of the test

Necro

Mod:

There is a dedicated forum to discuss everything Covid related. All I'm seeing from this thread is the mass repetition of both sides of the argument For OR VS restrictions, specifically those related to pubs.

Feel free to discuss the matter further here.

This thread however is being closed