Brexit - lamb prices

AnFeirmeoir

Are prices expected to crash jan 1st with a no deal ?

Tileman

AnFeirmeoir wrote: »

Are prices expected to crash jan 1st with a no deal ?

The opposite

serfspup

where will our cull ewes go?

Birdnuts

Sterling is taking a beating atm so that will have an obvious affect

weatherbyfoxer

with England unable to compete supply lambs to France surly it will go up

Bleating Lamb

Seems that in a no deal scenario British Lamb is going to be one area of agriculture to be let fall on its own sword which will be very unfair on sheep farmers involved.Talk of a 48% tariff on British lamb exports to EU but of course it is all only conjecture at this stage.

kk.man

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

with England unable to compete supply lambs to France surly it will go up

TBF lamb has been a good price. I can't see this happening as my butcher says he can't afford to pay anymore for lamb as the customer will stop buying.

arctictree

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Seems that in a no deal scenario British Lamb is going to be one area of agriculture to be let fall on its own sword which will be very unfair on sheep farmers involved.Talk of a 48% tariff on British lamb exports to EU but of course it is all only conjecture at this stage.

I wonder does that 48% also apply to NI lamb going south?

Green farmer

kk.man wrote: »

TBF lamb has been a good price. I can't see this happening as my butcher says he can't afford to pay anymore for lamb as the customer will stop buying.

Remember talking to a butcher a few years ago when the lambs were going well. When asked the same question then, he shrugged his shoulders and said didnt care if he had to pay abit extra for the lambs, as he was getting his beef for a few euro less at the time.

serfspup

arctictree wrote: »

I wonder does that 48% also apply to NI lamb going south?

or the NI lambs with Scottish accents?

Dickie10

serfspup wrote: »

or the NI lambs with Scottish accents?

the "Carlsile Specials" might as well come into the factory in Navan waving union jacks and Geordie accents!

serfspup

if a trade deal is agreed there still be extra costs on all uk sourced inputs and no rise lamb price....one of the worst possible outcomes for us, but suits bankers, brokers, bandits & assorted ba5tards

I have found myself more than once thinking I would like to tell them keep their fish and feck off.

Birdnuts

serfspup wrote: »

if a trade deal is agreed there still be extra costs on all uk sourced inputs and no rise lamb price....one of the worst possible outcomes for us, but suits bankers, brokers, bandits & assorted ba5tards

I have found myself more than once thinking I would like to tell them keep their fish and feck off.

The fish angle is interesting - some environmental group in the UK researched who actually owns the Marine fish quota in the UK in 2020, turn out its nearly all owned by a handfull of wealthy families that feature prominently on the Sunday Times Rick List. Aul Boris playing the UK public for fools again:rolleyes:

serfspup

boris is bravely battling to save the livelihoods of poor hardworking fisherfolk and sweet small family farms what would possibly make you think otherwise?

It is like you are suggesting that there is some 'big fish' or 'big agri' consparicy

next you will be thinking origin green is 'green wash nonsense'

where will it end!!!!!!!!:eek:

serfspup

so there you have it .....they get to sell their lamb to europe we get to pay for extra red tape on inputs and get a cut in direct payments for the privilage:mad:

Dickie10

surely they dont sell lambs into france in the same way as we do ? there no longer an EU country

Tileman

Dickie10 wrote: »

surely they dont sell lambs into france in the same way as we do ? there no longer an EU country

There will have to be import and export declarations. There is a cost to that. Might be vat implications also.

kk.man

Some serious prices being quoted for lambs this evening... 6.20e to 23kgs

Dickie10

are Republic of Ireland factories able to take in lambs from Britain now? if its complicated that could be the reason.

serfspup

will they not have to be labeled as non EU ? ....but then again when they can turn horse into beef anything is possible:mad:

Dickie10

serfspup wrote: »

will they not have to be labeled as non EU ? ....but then again when they can turn horse into beef anything is possible:mad:

well ICM used to go to Carlisle and buy up lambs and ship them back to Larne and then Navan and killed , i dont know if they were labbelled as British lamb i would think they were put down as Irish lamb, so it makes no difference now.
Only thing is if theres a tarriff or too much paperwork which there will be that it costs more than snapping up all lambs they can in rep of ireland even at a price.
The Muslim immigration to EU countries is also something that cant be over exagerratted as a big plus to Irish famers, theres a huge amount of muslim people now in France, Belgium, Sweden and Germany all established markets for Irish lamb.