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Planning Application - owned lands outlined in blue

  • 08-12-2020 8:29pm
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    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭


    Does anybody know the reasoning behind the requirement to have adjoining lands that are in same ownership (of either the applicant or the landowner) outlined in blue alongside the planning permission site outlined in red?

    Have googled it but cannot find an answer. Seems to be quite a strict requirement so am just wondering what the planners are looking for (or making sure is not concealed) in requesting it.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,365 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Never looked into this before. Just accepted it.
    Interesting question so hopefully someone knows.

    It may be to do with development and SHEC requirements?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Never looked into this before. Just accepted it.
    Interesting question so hopefully someone knows.

    It may be to do with development and SHEC requirements?

    I’ve always assumed it was more relevant in a rural one off house application- ie farmer splitting a site off a larger holding. But that’s really just because I’ve seen it in that context most often, no idea why it is actually relevant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,555 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    From what I've seen its mostly rural related so as to prevent speculative development by landowners/farmers. In fact I see an extra question on the planning application forms in Donegal now where they want the Folio number for the land ... if it's registered of course.

    I think every Council in Ireland will try to accommodate members of farming families and people from a rural background subject of course to showing compliance with all other aspects of the planning laws / county development plans. Once the planners can see the overall landholding they can check their own register for previous applications for development on those lands. It is essentially their way of keeping tabs on people who own large pockets of land.

    Outlining land in blue has also helped people on occasions. As an example someone gets refused permission to build on a particular part on the overall lands but can be advised by the planners that a more favourable view would taken if an application was made at a different location within the same landholding. I've seen them attach a map (to a refusal) with "X" marking the spot where they would consider to be a more appropriate location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Dudda


    It's not just rural / farming applications. It's very useful where you've a 'campus' for example a school, university, large factory, hospital, etc. They might want to do a tiny extension to some part so that area is outlined in red but the remaining 'campus' or lands are outlined in blue. It's very important in this situation as the planning application doesn't impact on the overall campus and only relates to the specific or relevant areas. You don't want a tiny extension creating a new separate covid entrance to a hospital ward refused planning permission because the A&E entrance at the far side of the campus has parking and traffic issues.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,172 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    schmittel wrote: »
    Does anybody know the reasoning behind the requirement to have adjoining lands that are in same ownership (of either the applicant or the landowner) outlined in blue alongside the planning permission site outlined in red?

    Have googled it but cannot find an answer. Seems to be quite a strict requirement so am just wondering what the planners are looking for (or making sure is not concealed) in requesting it.

    its very useful if the planning authority deems a particular site troublesome, so the can see if there are possible alternative sites on the landholding

    not every piece of field is a site suitable for housing.


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