Krispy Kreme to open in New Central Plaza, Dame Street

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Krispy Kreme to open Dublin city centre store in 2021

https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/krispy-kreme-to-open-dublin-city-centre-store-in-2021-39815896.html


Good news for donut fans!!

jim o doom

Nice, haven't driven over to their first spot in Blanch in months due to the lockdown and starting to get withdrawals

Hurrache

An iconic building, be you like it or not, and they put a full glass fronted donut shop into it.

jim o doom

Hurrache wrote: »

An iconic building, be you like it or not, and they put a full glass fronted donut shop into it.

Lot of people misspent various chunks of their youth around that building when it was the bank!

Not super surprising they're sticking a multinational donut/coffee/whatever place out front, it's being redeveloped as a commercial outing, the need to attract people to it.

Lux23

Is that the best they can do?

Passenger

Do donuts even still have the appeal they had a couple years ago?

Lux23

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Lux23 wrote: »

Is that the best they can do?

I'm surprised it isn't another Vodafone shop or something similar. Severe shortage of phone shops on every street in Dublin. :pac:

furiousox

Yaaay, diabetes.

Pasteur.

Proliferation of Fast Food Outlets across the country

This will all unravel eventually when the obesity crisis looms large

Seamai

Passenger wrote: »

Do donuts even still have the appeal they had a couple years ago?

I thought we had peak donut about two years ago, several places that specialized in them in Cork have gone by the board. I never really got the appeal of donuts covered in their same weight in sickly sweet gick. When I pass a certain one on Oliver Plunkett Street, the queue seems always to exist of young women in active wear with asses the size of small countries. Just what the doctor ordered for a society with ever increasing waistlines.

Pasteur.

Pasteur. wrote: »

Proliferation of Fast Food Outlets across the country

This will all unravel eventually when the obesity crisis looms large

A decent proportion of the health issues in Ireland are due to folk being overweight, it's only going to get worse. It's a HUGE issue.

Rrrrrr2

Augeo wrote: »

A decent proportion of the health issues in Ireland are due to folk being overweight, it's only going to get worse. It's a HUGE issue.

It's true and fast-food is so much more accessible than when i was a kid in the late 80s and 90s- McDonalds didn't go beyond the Naas road tbh. Now all these outlets are everywhere- even in petrol stations etc. It has to all have an effect?

Pasteur.

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

It's true and fast-food is so much more accessible than when i was a kid in the late 80s and 90s- McDonalds didn't go beyond the Naas road tbh. Now all these outlets are everywhere- even in petrol stations etc. It has to all have an effect?

Pat Mcdonagh is striking deals left right and centre to open supermacs beside service stations


Profit rules for now while we sleepwalk into a crisis

Seamai

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

It's true and fast-food is so much more accessible than when i was a kid in the late 80s and 90s- McDonalds didn't go beyond the Naas road tbh. Now all these outlets are everywhere- even in petrol stations etc. It has to all have an effect?

The arrival of Deliveroo and similar delivery companies hasn't helped either. I know of people too lazy to get off their holes and walk, let alone drive a few minutes. Had a work colleague who would have her dinner around 7 and if by 10.30 or 11 was feeling peckish she and her boyfriend would think nothing of ordering a take out from her sofa from McDonalds 500m away and have it delivered, then she wondered why she was a bit of a mawser*

(*Cork slang for a woman who's big around the hips and ass, from the Irish word más meaning buttock")

IngazZagni

Pasteur. wrote: »

Pat Mcdonagh is striking deals left right and centre to open supermacs beside service stations


Profit rules for now while we sleepwalk into a crisis

They typically open a Chopped beside the Supermacs too as part of a deal in these petrol stations.

I for one welcome this. A very well renowned brand and their Blanch store has been an overwhelming success. They’ll now take up residence in a small store within a new large development.

People need to take personal responsibility for their health and limiting people’s access to this is not the answer. I think that would be limiting freedom. (I do have a slightly differing opinion on this in regards to places located right outside schools) What we need is better education. I think there is evidence that the tide is turning in this regard and fitness has become much more popular amongst younger people recently in my experience.

Edit: Although as mentioned the expansion of the likes of deliveroo and the lockdown in general has created more issues around health.

angel eyes 2012

Seamai wrote: »

I thought we had peak donut about two years ago, several places that specialized in them in Cork have gone by the board. I never really got the appeal of donuts covered in their same weight in sickly sweet gick. When I pass a certain one on Oliver Plunkett Street, the queue seems always to exist of young women in active wear with asses the size of small countries. Just what the doctor ordered for a society with ever increasing waistlines.

I live near the Blanchardstown Krispy Kreme outlet and there are still regular queues outside the drive thru and in the store. It doesn't help that the donut queue sometimes overlaps with the McDonalds drive thru queue and then both queues converge and start out on the main road.

Goodshape

A big American donut shop. Just what I was hoping for in Dublin city's new plaza.

Might pop in after a wee go on the white-water rafts.

VonLuck

What does everyone have against Krispy Kreme? I've never had one myself, but what would you have expected to go into the unit?

Pasteur.

It's not about the donuts

Companies like Amazon and Krispy Kreme will output product to make money, that's their function

Meanwhile the seas are being polluted and people are getting fat

Governments job is to regulate all this for the greater good

thenightman

Starbucks, Costa and McDonalds all within a 1 min walk of there already, not to mention the multiple outlets of Carrolls gift tat shops. ****e to see the city filled up with chains, but I suspect this will become even more prevalent once the financial bite of covid kicks in. Will end up like a bland city in the English midlands.

vafankillar

thenightman wrote: »

Starbucks, Costa and McDonalds all within a 1 min walk of there already, not to mention the multiple outlets of Carrolls gift tat shops. ****e to see the city filled up with chains, but I suspect this will become even more prevalent once the financial bite of covid kicks in. Will end up like a bland city in the English midlands.

saw one of the top lads from carrolls complaining about people having take away pints in town, while his place has been open since june serving thousands of yank who've been no doubt spreading the virus around the country while our own sons and daughters no been encouraged not to fly home for christmas

FYI they have trailer Krispy Kreme outlet open now in Dundrum town centre

https://twitter.com/KrispyKremeIRL/status/1334565566569357312?s=20

raheny red

The out cries over Krispy Kreme opening in the old Central Bank reminds me of the aul wans screaming blue murder about Stringfellows on Parnell Street . Dirty sexy doughnuts!!!

BeerNut

At least you'll actually be able to get your hole at Krispy Kreme.

Goodshape

Goodshape wrote: »

A big American donut shop. Just what I was hoping for in Dublin city's new plaza.

Might pop in after a wee go on the white-water rafts.

As opposed to......what?

No matter what gets put in there, people will be giving out yards. The fact that it's American should have no sway on the matter. Would you prefer another Caroll's gift shop? Or a Supermacs?

Within spitting distance of this location, there's a Tesco, Subway and a Starbucks, followed by any number of burger, kebab and chinese takeaways. It's hardly going against the grain.

What, in your opinion, would be suitable for that location?

Thelonious Monk

If they open another Carroll's there I'm emigrating

BeerNut

Is Carroll's still expanding? They closed the one on Mary Street. I got the feeling they thought their number was up.

L1011

With virtually no tourists all year I don't see them being in a position to expand currently.

Thelonious Monk

Gift shops selling Chinese tat staffed by Brazilians. They're just awful.

BryanMartin21

We will lock down society for people's own good but allow this poison to be sold freely, whether in donut shops or in supermarkets. The ingredients should not be considered food considering the processing involved to create them and our bodies are ill-equipped to deal with them. It's a bizarre world we live in where personal responsibility is only allowed within the confines of heavily-lobbied-for laws enabling corporations to poison society and make money from it.

BeerNut

BryanMartin21 wrote: »

We will lock down society for people's own good but allow this poison to be sold freely, whether in donut shops or in supermarkets.

Yes, if there's one thing we need it's tighter government control on what we're allowed to eat and drink. If only the state would nanny us harder, for our own good :rolleyes:

At least we can be reasonably sure there'll be a Chopped nearby. There's always a Chopped nearby.

Pasteur.

BeerNut wrote: »

Yes, if there's one thing we need it's tighter government control on what we're allowed to eat and drink. If only the state would nanny us harder, for our own good :rolleyes:

At least we can be reasonably sure there'll be a Chopped nearby. There's always a Chopped nearby.

That's what we do need, tighter regulation on food sale and production

It will happen down the line

GhostyMcGhost

VonLuck wrote: »

What does everyone have against Krispy Kreme? I've never had one myself, but what would you have expected to go into the unit?

Weatherspoons

lawred2

A fairly underwhelming anchor tenant

Biker79

BryanMartin21 wrote: »

We will lock down society for people's own good but allow this poison to be sold freely, whether in donut shops or in supermarkets. The ingredients should not be considered food considering the processing involved to create them and our bodies are ill-equipped to deal with them. It's a bizarre world we live in where personal responsibility is only allowed within the confines of heavily-lobbied-for laws enabling corporations to poison society and make money from it.

The truth is, anyone in a good state of health can eat this rubbish of they like, with no consequences.

However, when you have a significant portion of the population who arent healthy, and who are the most likely to eat this stuff..then you have a problem.

The HSE takes the lions share of the national budget. 70% of illnesses are lifestyle-related, according to a survey of GPs. So the obvious conclusion to draw here is that the country as a whole will be better off financially if lifestyles are healthier.

If that takes a ' nanny state ' then so be it. Sadly some people aren't up to personal responsibility.

BeerNut

Biker79 wrote: »

If that takes a ' nanny state ' then so be it.

But it be'nt. You can't legislate people into being healthy. You just end up pissing them off without solving any problems. This is the story of Ireland's regulation of alcohol.

As CS Lewis put it:

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.

"Ban Krispy Kreme because it's bad for you" only makes sense if you are steadfastly determined not to think things through.

Biker79

BeerNut wrote: »

But it be'nt. You can't legislate people into being healthy. You just end up pissing them off without solving any problems. This is the story of Ireland's regulation of alcohol.

As CS Lewis put it:


"Ban Krispy Kreme because it's bad for you" only makes sense if you are steadfastly determined not to think things through.

The Health sector is one of the last industries to go digital. When it does, we will see personal dashboards that offer tailored information on how lifestyle choices increase/ decrease a propensity towards illness.

That data will be used at a national level - like national health 'r' number. If it's below a certain point, lit could mean fewer restrictions on smoking, booze and sugar...if it goes above, then these become more restricted/ higher taxes etc.

There would be a lot of support for something like this, to ease the burden of the HSE on the taxpayer.

CS Lewis could never have envisaged data-driven management, so that quote is misleading, just like the idea of a ' nanny state ' is also misleading.

angel eyes 2012

Biker79 wrote: »

The Health sector is one of the last industries to go digital. When it does, we will see personal dashboards that offer tailored information on how lifestyle choices increase/ decrease a propensity towards illness.

That data will be used at a national level - like national health 'r' number. If it's below a certain point, lit could mean fewer restrictions on smoking, booze and sugar...if it goes above, then these become more restricted/ higher taxes etc.

There would be a lot of support for something like this, to ease the burden of the HSE on the taxpayer.

CS Lewis could never have envisaged data-driven management, so that quote is misleading, just like the idea of a ' nanny state ' is also misleading.

Equally, CS Lewis never could have envisaged the introduction of the GDPR which sets out that such profiling is only permitted in extreme limited circumstances.

I disagree with you, I don't envisage there would be a lot of support for such infringement of privacy rights and the HSE would have a battle to properly introduce such measures. Recent problems with extending the powers of the Public Services Card acts as an example of a public body running away with itself before examining any data protection risks.

Anyway, back to Krispy Kreme donuts.

BeerNut

Biker79 wrote: »

we will see personal dashboards that offer tailored information on how lifestyle choices increase/ decrease a propensity towards illness.

The idea that the multitude of analogue systems that make up each individual's health can be digitally quantified and then adjusted on an input-output basis is the sort of thing that tech bros and politicians believe but has no basis in medical reality.

Muahahaha

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Gift shops selling Chinese tat staffed by Brazilians. They're just awful.

I sometimes wonder about the expressions on the faces of the packing line workers in the Chinese factory when they see thousands of stuffed leprechauns coming rolling down the conveyor belt.

Paddico

Another chain to add to Dublin Streets.
Soon all the streets will resemble the high street in the UK with 90% predictability

VonLuck

Paddico wrote: »

Another chain to add to Dublin Streets.
Soon all the streets will resemble the high street in the UK with 90% predictability

What did you expect would go in there? Highly unlikely that a brand new Irish business would set up shop there.

silver2020

I never understand the naysayers that come on to complain about everything.

This is great for that location especially if they are making the donuts on site - it will add some theatrics.


I don't get the "everyone will get fat" argument either - again naysayers looking for any negative angle they can get. Maybe stop supermarkets selling biscuits and chocolate and crisps?


This will attract large numbers to the area and all businesses there will get a lift in trade.

Superb choice of use imo and I don't live in Dublin (did many years ago in the day of American Classics, original Bad ass cafe and Eager beaver.)

Cienciano

Christ, some amount of miserable delusional people in this thread. Of course it was going to be a big money company taking a location like that. Donuts is perfect as it's foot traffic. As for it being unhealthy, almost every restaurant or takeaway in the country is fecking well unhealthy. You're not being forced to buy it.

And as for the architectural value, it's small glass box at the base of one of the ugliest buildings in Dublin!