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New JCB, any recommendations?

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  • 01-12-2020 12:39am
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    jd_12345
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    Looking at changing the 1992 JCB 412. Which would ye go for
    10/11 JCB 412s
    11/12 JCB tm310/s
    13/14 JCB 531-70.

    Budget 30-35k +Vat
    Half looking at something like a 526-60 also but think they’re a small bit light. I appreciate the side boom would be a bit of a step back but like the idea of getting something fresher with less hours for the same money that’d probably more than satisfy the needs of a dairy farm who don’t push up their own grass.
    Any opinions on other makes:models? A lot of conflicting reports about Manitous?


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    blue5000
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    Mod note; Pulled this from an old thread.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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    Gawddawggonnit
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    Jcb 320S.
    Had a demo recently and was impressed.
    Good power in it.


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    richie123
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    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    Jcb 320S.
    Had a demo recently and was impressed.
    Good power in it.

    What ever you buy the newrer and cleaner it is the better off you'll be...even if it's another 10 grand.


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    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    I'd say youd be pushing hard to get em in that price bracket .


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    jd_12345
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭jd_12345


    Thanks a million for all the replies. Here are a sample of the machines I had in mind.
    On a similar note has anyone any experience drawing bales with one of these type trailers on a rigid side boom handler with silage (https://www.donedeal.ie/trailers-for-sale/bale-trailer/26658185)
    Thinking of either buying a double handler if we get an artic or one of these if we get a rigid with a pick up hitch. Drawing bales is one of our pinch points when we're scarce of tractors and think that this might speed things up a bit.

    These are some of the loaders that I had in mind.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/jcb-412/26051109
    https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/jcb-tm-310/26228088
    https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/2016-jcb-531-70/26431335
    They're the ideal machines atm
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/jcb-tm310s/25632983
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/jcb/26298676
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2012-jcb-526-56-agri-2700-hrs/26489217
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2012-jcb-tm310-16815/26623670 - hours a bit high
    https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/jcb-531-70/26571766
    https://www.donedeal.ie/dealer/kingswood-agri
    https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/jcb-531-70-2011/23939955


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    jd_12345
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭jd_12345


    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    Jcb 320S.
    Had a demo recently and was impressed.
    Good power in it.

    Unfortunately budget won't stretch that far. Too much money tied up in one loader when we're dealing with multiple yards


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    jd_12345
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭jd_12345


    richie123 wrote: »
    What ever you buy the newrer and cleaner it is the better off you'll be...even if it's another 10 grand.

    Good point. Trying to stay on this side of 2010 unless extremelt clean and low hours. It all adds up is the bother. It'll be financed so the idea of having high depreciation on something that we're paying interest on irks me.


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    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    The centre pivot and the headstock in the tm 310/ 320s are things to check afaik. They have been known to put pressure on them.
    Jcb 412s is a grand machine can handle most livestock jobs. Wiring was an issue in them. I think the years you would be looking at may be better than the early to mid noughties tho. Centre pin again a thing to check, your mechanic may know of more things to check. Can be bouncy on poor roads tho.
    If you have the space within yards and need a bit of reach the loadall type may be worth it. Personally don't like the blind spots but the last one I drove was 15 odd years ago, prefer pivot machines but plenty lads would be the opposte


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    jd_12345
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭jd_12345


    Mooooo wrote: »
    The centre pivot and the headstock in the tm 310/ 320s are things to check afaik. They have been known to put pressure on them.
    Jcb 412s is a grand machine can handle most livestock jobs. Wiring was an issue in them. I think the years you would be looking at may be better than the early to mid noughties tho. Centre pin again a thing to check, your mechanic may know of more things to check. Can be bouncy on poor roads tho.
    If you have the space within yards and need a bit of reach the loadall type may be worth it. Personally don't like the blind spots but the last one I drove was 15 odd years ago, prefer pivot machines but plenty lads would be the opposte

    Thanks! We’ll make sure to look out for those things. Yeah it wouldn’t be unheard of for them to go up in flames lol. That’d be my main fear with the side boom is the lack of visibility though the new models do seem a lot better for it. The boom would be very handy in comparison to the 412s. The other thing is you’re carrying a lot of dead weight with the 412s. I’d be hoping that I’d be putting a new q fit head stock on a tm310 depending on cost and what’s already on it as a lot of them seem to be pin and cone.


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    Gawddawggonnit
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    Might be worth keeping an eye out for a JD 3800. Nice clean one might be in your budget.


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    kevthegaff
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    Rang alad about a 2011 jcb tm220 42k inc vat jaysus


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    kevthegaff
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    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    Might be worth keeping an eye out for a JD 3800. Nice clean one might be in your budget.

    What are they like Dawg?


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    jd_12345
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭jd_12345


    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    Might be worth keeping an eye out for a JD 3800. Nice clean one might be in your budget.

    Hadn't really looked at them as I thought they were on the old side. Ideally I'd like to stay this side of 2010 but now that you mention them they look a fine machine with a much bigger cab and even a passenger seat!

    Definitely worth a look!

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/telly-handler-3800-john-deere-teleporter/26515750
    https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/john-deere-3800/26103877

    As a matter of interest do you know who took over the telehandler manufacturing from John Deere. Was it Kramer or did they just stop full stop?


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    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    What are they like Dawg?

    I know two lads that had them. The were sorry that they didn’t hold onto them. Great for yard work.


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    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Anyone drive a JCB 411? Are they able for the farm environment, loading dung in fields, possibly a bit of silage work? Could go up the years in them a bit compared to a 412s/413


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    Morris Moss
    Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Anyone drive a JCB 411? Are they able for the farm environment, loading dung in fields, possibly a bit of silage work? Could go up the years in them a bit compared to a 412s/413

    Think you'd be better of going for a 413, nothing wrong with the 411 but you can always do with more power in a loader, especially if you want to push up silage


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    crunambo
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    Had an articulated loader for the last 6 years. Great yoke to have around for about 4 months of the year. Sold it and bought a second, bigger loader tractor. A good yoke for 12 months of the year! Also better way of travelling between yards via road. Will be a huge help during the busy Spring period with feeding, fertiliser, slurry etc all happening at the same time


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