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Bathroom fan isolator location?

  • 25-11-2020 01:39PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭


    Can these be fitted in a bathroom outside the zones or do they have to be outside the bathroom?
    Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭meercat


    Pasteur. wrote: »
    Can these be fitted in a bathroom outside the zones or do they have to be outside the bathroom?
    Thanks

    Wall mounted switches are not permitted within any zones of a bathroom. That means inside 3mts from shower or bath edge.
    Most bathrooms are smaller than this so outside (below 1200mm)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    meercat wrote: »
    Wall mounted switches are not permitted within any zones of a bathroom. That means inside 3mts from shower or bath edge.
    Most bathrooms are smaller than this so outside (below 1200mm)

    What about ceiling mounted

    Should be ok outside the zones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,283 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    meercat wrote: »
    Wall mounted switches are not permitted within any zones of a bathroom. That means inside 3mts from shower or bath edge.
    Most bathrooms are smaller than this so outside (below 1200mm)

    Below 1200mm height ?

    Why do most public toilets have these types of switches located 400 mm or so from ceiling ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    listermint wrote: »
    Below 1200mm height ?

    Why do most public toilets have these types of switches located 400 mm or so from ceiling ?

    Hand dryers and the like they do to stop people switching them off

    Don't think the rules allow it isolators is 400-1600 off floor


  • Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    meercat wrote: »
    Wall mounted switches are not permitted within any zones of a bathroom. /QUOTE]

    Thats true but not all walls are inside a zone!
    Take a look at page 174 of the regs (101) theres a good example.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭meercat


    meercat wrote: »
    Wall mounted switches are not permitted within any zones of a bathroom. /QUOTE]

    Thats true but not all walls are inside a zone!
    Take a look at page 174 of the regs (101) theres a good example.

    I’ve addressed this in my first post. Within 3mts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭meercat


    Pasteur. wrote: »
    What about ceiling mounted

    Should be ok outside the zones

    Pull cord switches are permitted however All conductors need to be isolated
    Live. Switched live and neutral.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    meercat wrote: »
    Pull cord switches are permitted however All conductors need to be isolated
    Live. Switched live and neutral.

    Regular switches I'm asking about not pull cord


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭meercat


    Pasteur. wrote: »
    Regular switches I'm asking about not pull cord

    It’s not permitted to fit a regular switch on the ceiling


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    meercat wrote: »
    It’s not permitted to fit a regular switch on the ceiling

    Fan isolator switches though

    What rule says they can't go on a ceiling,?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭meercat


    Pasteur. wrote: »
    Fan isolator switches though

    What rule says they can't go on a ceiling,?


    555.5.1 isolating switch

    530.6 switch heights


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    meercat wrote: »
    555.5.1 isolating switch

    530.6 switch heights

    530.6 doesn't apply, that's headed "Control Devices"

    I'm thinking it's allowed to mount them on a ceiling near the fan, not saying it's ideal

    555.5.1 states" in its vicinity"


  • Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    meercat wrote: »
    555.5.1 isolating switch

    530.6 switch heights

    The between 400mm and 1200mm is for general use devices.
    There is exceptions ,extractor fan socket is one example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭meercat


    The between 400mm and 1200mm is for general use devices.
    There is exceptions ,extractor fan socket is one example.

    Can you point me out the regulations that specify these exemptions. Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    meercat wrote: »
    Can you point me out the regulations that specify these exemptions. Cheers

    The rule you quoted is headed Control Devices

    Therefore that's all it applies to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭liveandnetural




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭kramer1


    Reci Inspector told me on last inspection they want them between the allowed switch heights. No idea if he's right or not and wasn't arsed arguing with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Redy321


    Pasteur. wrote: »
    Can these be fitted in a bathroom outside the zones or do they have to be outside the bathroom?
    Thanks

    I think we need to go outside. Have you already done it?


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