driven boar

cz527

dose anyone no is a 270 allowed for driven boar accross europe

tudderone

I don't think so. Anyone i know who does it uses a .30-06 or .308 with heavy bullets. Grizzly45 will know.

Sika98k

cz527 wrote: »

dose anyone no is a 270 allowed for driven boar accross europe

Each country has their own rules on caliber, bullet and energy expressed in Joules. Germany iirc you can just scrape in with a 6.5x55 and 156 gr bullets

In all honesty I have never seen anyone checking the caliber of our rifles prior to us going hunting. Although once in Hungary the police turned up and breathalysed all of us prior to starting the hunt. One lad failed and had to sit it out for the morning !

I’ve seen 243s used to great effect, 30-30 Marlins, the list goes on to the exotics of 7x57r, 9.3x74r, %9.3x62..........

By the way don’t expect the forest floor to be littered with dead boar around you after a drive. 1.2 boar per day per hunter is the German average.

tudderone

Sika98k wrote: »

Each country has their own rules on caliber, bullet and energy expressed in Joules. Germany iirc you can just scrape in with a 6.5x55 and 156 gr bullets

In all honesty I have never seen anyone checking the caliber of our rifles prior to us going hunting. Although once in Hungary the police turned up and breathalysed all of us prior to starting the hunt. One lad failed and had to sit it out for the morning !

I’ve seen 243s used to great effect, 30-30 Marlins, the list goes on to the exotics of 7x54r, 9.3x74r, %9.3x62..........

By the way don’t expect the forest floor to be littered with dead boar around you after a drive. 1.2 boar per day per hunter is the German average.

I thought you were going to say one lad passed and they gave him a bottle of vodka to neck before the shooting started.

I know in Germany, the .243 isn't even deer legal, that may have changed, but just because you can use it doesn't mean its the rifle for the job. Big bores and heavy bullets, i know one lad with a lovely Browning lever action in .45-70, reckons its the business.

cz527

Looking into driven boar next year all going well and i have a 270 but am not shure if it is enuf for them but dont want to change the 270 as it ia perfect for the shooting i do over here

tudderone

From here : https://doublegunshop.com/moses1.htm


"German hunting law requires a cartridge having 1000 Joules @ 100 meters (737 ft-lbs. @ 109 yds) for roe with no minimum caliber requirement, but for "high" game, and this includes red, fallow and sika deer, boar, chamois and mouflon sheep, the requirement is for a cartridge giving at least 2000 Joules @ 100 meters (1475 ft-lbs. @ 109 yds) and having a caliber no smaller than 6.5mm (.264"). In practical terms, this means that the least powerful legal cartridge for roe is the .222 Remington and the smallest legal cartridge for high game is the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser".

Grizzly 45

Mininum is 308 for boar in Germany.

Pkiernan

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Mininum is 308 for boar in Germany.

I cant find any info that states the 308 is a minimum calibre.
The 270 easily meets the energy requirements.

cz527

that is what i though that the 270 would be enuf

tudderone

Pkiernan wrote: »

I cant find any info that states the 308 is a minimum calibre.
The 270 easily meets the energy requirements.

Maybe under the laws over there the .270 is ok, but generally estates or outfitters want you to use something heavier ?

Sika98k

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Mininum is 308 for boar in Germany.

See post #6

Grizzly 45

Sika98k wrote: »

See post #6

See whether it is accepted by who is organising the hunt .The adage "just because you can,should you..."applies here.The 270 is a rare cal in Germany,used more for deer for a start and unliked for boar as it wont drop boar dead and if gut shot (weich schuss)which will invariably happen,can have them run over 200 meters.Any other cal will drop them within 30 +/- meters,if not on the spot.Hence the reason its said minimum is 308.

Also,on an aside,if your hunt is going to be in north rhein/ westphalia.Be aware there is now apprently a mandatory state test and scoring qualification on paper for driven boar before you can hunt them.I dont know do any other states have this ...yet! But be aware of this possibility.

tudderone

The lad i knew who used to go out to eastern europe and Germany used a lever action .45-70 with pretty stout loads. Fast follow up shots and a big heavy bullet, he reckoned it was the business. A straight pull .30-06 would be great too.

Grizzly 45

Garands in various forms are becoming a thing for boar hunting over there. As all the bespoke German gun makers like Merkel, Sauer, Hanel etc are all offering semi-autos in bug cals.So there is plenty of boar about if they see a market .

Our fav go-to for boar over there is an HK 940 30.06. Has dropped countless boar in their tracks and an Alaskan moose. Has an old Gen 1 Aimpoint for forest work.:)

tudderone

Looking at some of these videos, boar shrugging off three hits with shotgun slugs etc, I'd give up on the .270 and get a .500 Nitro express :eek:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHNNZOlL32I

cookimonster

https://fieldsports-journal.com/article/the-wild-boar-masterclass-with-franz-albrecht-zu-oettingen-

I have unsuccessfully done a few driven hunts in France and Spain. The calibres ranged from 12 gauge slugs (heavy shot in some places), various WSM (.270 very popular), Magnums 7mm/30, 9.3 and 8mm in various firaearm configurations- double rifles, semi autos, boltaction and straight pull. Sights range from variable scopes, red dot style or iron sights.

I have shot boar with my own .270 using 130gr sp bullets with no issues. If you read through the above article featuring Franz Albrecht you'll see he favours the .270 for his driven boar. If you feel you need more clout up the grain to 150 gr.

I use both a bolt action and straight pull for stalking and I would say that there is very little in the difference in cycling speed. I tend to automatically reload after the shot is released whether it's a. 22LR, .270 or 30-06. Scope set up is more important that type of action. If you can maintain a reasonable sight picture then you will have a better chance of quick follow up shots. Not boasting but I've taken hind, calf and follower with unmoderated .270 around 100 to 150 yards on several occasions. If anything look at your optics, the traditional 6 powers are a handicap with driven, low power like 1.5 is good or red dots / open sights will stand you good. I have the '06 set up with a picatanny rail / QD rings and a red dot option for my next trip abroad.

cz527

very good read i was thinking bigger is better with boar but quick reload and right shot placment with proper scope for the job.so my 270 will do the job

kunekunesika

tudderone wrote: »

Looking at some of these videos, boar shrugging off three hits with shotgun slugs etc, I'd give up on the .270 and get a .500 Nitro express :eek:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHNNZOlL32I

Yeah, 50 cal plus,or maybe buy the rashers in super value??? Dangerous looking a activity for bystanders.

Asus1

tudderone wrote: »

Looking at some of these videos, boar shrugging off three hits with shotgun slugs etc, I'd give up on the .270 and get a .500 Nitro express :eek:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHNNZOlL32I

Some very lucky people and dogs there and it seemed their fellow hunters were more dangerous than the boar.Mad shooting altogether.

Grizzly 45

Asus1 wrote: »

Some very lucky people and dogs there and it seemed their fellow hunters were more dangerous than the boar.Mad shooting altogether.

Keeps you on the toes,and a massive adrenaline dump in the system will make you really appreciate life afterwards a lot more for that day.:D

Now ,if you really want a nerve tickle go out with a boar spear and the dog pack men. They go after the injured boar with a dirty big spear,a so-called "Saufeder".

These lads are easily recognised at any hunt,that allows them in.
A pack of Jagd Terriers, Short barrel rifles or shotguns large knives [Crocodile Dundee size],a big cal handgun[maybe] and plenty of scars on the legs and thighs from close encounters.:eek:
Sorts out the fat from the fit and the boys from the men that type of hunt:pac:

Feisar

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Keeps you on the toes,and a massive adrenaline dump in the system will make you really appreciate life afterwards a lot more for that day.:D

Now ,if you really want a nerve tickle go out with a boar spear and the dog pack men. They go after the injured boar with a dirty big spear,a so-called "Saufeder".

These lads are easily recognised at any hunt,that allows them in.
A pack of Jagd Terriers, Short barrel rifles or shotguns large knives [Crocodile Dundee size],a big cal handgun[maybe] and plenty of scars on the legs and thighs from close encounters.:eek:
Sorts out the fat from the fit and the boys from the men that type of hunt:pac:

That expression you hear up north comes to mind, "not wise".

Grizzly 45

Every time I see those kinds of "Jager" Creedence Clearwater Revival "Run thru the jungle" starts playing in my mind.:eek::D

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Keeps you on the toes,and a massive adrenaline dump in the system will make you really appreciate life afterwards a lot more for that day.:D

Now ,if you really want a nerve tickle go out with a boar spear and the dog pack men. They go after the injured boar with a dirty big spear,a so-called "Saufeder".

These lads are easily recognised at any hunt,that allows them in.
A pack of Jagd Terriers, Short barrel rifles or shotguns large knives [Crocodile Dundee size],a big cal handgun[maybe] and plenty of scars on the legs and thighs from close encounters.:eek:
Sorts out the fat from the fit and the boys from the men that type of hunt:pac:

Them wild boar, you have to remember one thing, "They don't like it up em" !

dodderangler

tudderone wrote: »

Looking at some of these videos, boar shrugging off three hits with shotgun slugs etc, I'd give up on the .270 and get a .500 Nitro express :eek:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHNNZOlL32I

Not sure if its that one but seen a chap on a driven shoot with ear muffs on his head. Whatever about protecting your hearing but bad choice of animal to use ear muffs on. Boar upended him snuck beside him