Garda Vetting

ChikiChiki

All,

Earlier on in the year very serious allegations were made against me and my sibling by our mother. Both of us were living at home at the time. The false nature of the allegations in separate statements was that we were bullying her and had assaulted her.

My mother has been a long time alcoholic underpinned by mental health issues. I have sought help on many occasions only for her case to be discounted because of the alcohol. The allegations she made earlier in the year were baseless off the back of us trying to get her alcoholism under control. As part of this, we poured bottles of wine and whiskey down the drain. We would go to work and come back and find her incapacitated with drink. Last year she was even arrested for being drunk and disorderly.

One morning after pouring out more drink, she took off and went to the guards and made a completely fabricated statement against the two of us. She then visited women's aid and onto the court.

As a result of this under the Domestic Violence act 2018 the following were issued to both of us;

1) Interim Barring Order
2) Summons for a Barring order
3) Protection Order
4) Summons for a safety order

She subsequently went to the Guards a few days later and withdrew her remarks.

Over the years, I have visited doctors, mental health professionals and even cryed my eyes out in the local parish priests office trying to get help for her. I cared so much but the above was a turning point and I made the decision to cut her out for good for my health.

Fast forward and my sibling is out of work with the pandemic. After thousands of applications he finally interviewed and was offered a position. I was so happy for him as he was in a very bad rut. He was overjoyed and submitted all his documents. The recruiter was very engaging and enthusiastic. All that he was waiting on was the garda vetting with a start date of Monday gone.

The recruiter has gone very quiet and has not acknowledged or responded to his emails. I am thinking that the above may have showed up in the Garda Vetting?

Does anyone know if this is a possibility as it would also affect my own career prospects going forwards? If so, I would like to address and correct the record. This has me very stressed at the moment and I feel I need to take action on it.

Thanks in advance

hullaballoo

If you weren't convicted and don't have a prosecution pending, there is nothing to disclose by the NVB in respect of you or your brother. (There is something called "specified information" which is soft information like complaints made against someone but if NVB are contemplating disclosing specified information, they write to the vetting subject first for submissions.)

I do not believe there has been a disclosure here by NVB in your brother's case. On the other hand, if there is a delay in the vetting, which can happen for various reasons and does not indicate a problem, people's start dates can be pushed back pending the vetting response.

Aside from the recruiter, has your brother had any contact from the workplace? Could he make contact there just to acknowledge the delay from the NVB and rearrange start date or would that be inappropriately cutting out the middle man?

ChikiChiki

Thanks Hullaballoo, specified information was the part I was worried about.

He has had no response from the recruitment agency despite sending 4 emails requesting an update. I myself am livid at the lack of professionalism in regards to that and even if something was flagged they should have the courtesy to let him know so the matter can be closed. He tried very hard, sending hundreds of applications and I have noticed seems to have spiraled into a state of depression.

To give further context, I had opened another thread nearly two years ago on my mothers drinking and as you can see from events earlier in the year, there is no improvement on a very dire situation. When it comes to alcoholism, the mental health act and authorities do not want to know and we as a family have suffered so much. At the time a course of action I was investigating was removing financial independence from her which I never followed through on.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108802495

hullaballoo

I have nothing but sympathy for you and your family and I know the destruction wrought by addiction is unbearable for all involved.

I cannot give you legal advice specific to your situation but I would encourage you to engage with a solicitor in relation to the situation because you are in such a volatile situation where there may be repercussions if you do not have appropriate legal advice.

Notmything

I've experience of both sides of Garda vetting.

Unfortunately Garda vetting may disclose "soft information" which may include barring orders.

If your sibling applied through the online vetting procedure then they should recieve an email when the process is completed, the employer will recieve the actual details of any disclosure.

A good employer 'should' allow your sibling the opportunity to explain the circumstances but sadly many do not.

But I hope everything gets resolved satisfactorily.

Edit: fwiw while vetting normally only takes a day or two (when done online) at the moment it seems to be taking longer. A prospective employee where I work is waiting over a week for theirs to come back.