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letter saying why i should get a job

  • 13-11-2020 10:04am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭


    my wife is looking to move jobs. she is in quality assurance in pharma. She got a call yesterday for a role that would be ideal - closer to home been the main one as she has a long commute at the moment,
    the recruiter is looking for her to write a letter saying why she thinks she should get the job. this seems a little unusual to me - would this be for the recruitment company or will it go to the company recruiting? i told my wife to call back to the recruitment company and ask them for more guidance on this but i was wondering if some one has any experience on this in the meantime?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭6541


    Is she a school child ? Tell that recruiter to get lost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    if she didnt want the job then yes, she would.

    is this a new trend or is it very old fashioned to ask for this type of letter?
    6541 wrote: »
    Is she a school child ? Tell that recruiter to get lost.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't work in pharma but in other industries the recruiter should be working for her. I'd call them up and get guidance. Maybe the pharmacy themselves are looking for the letter. If so, the recruiter should be helping her write it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭messrs


    Is it a full on letter or like a cover note to go with CV with brief points of why she wants the job? ( actually are cover notes even a thing anymore?:confused:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    yes, i totally agree. it may be a case that my wife didn't think to ask this at the time so i will defiantly get her to call them back
    I don't work in pharma but in other industries the recruiter should be working for her. I'd call them up and get guidance. Maybe the pharmacy themselves are looking for the letter. If so, the recruiter should be helping her write it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Dublinflyer


    Is the recruiter looking for a tailored cover letter for her CV and he just communicated it very badly? I have been asked for cover letters for a few roles but it was never put to me like that. Seems odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    i have just looked at the recruitment website and the person my wife is dealing with graduated from college in may 2020 and started work in August so it may be poor communication on the recruiters behalf or poor understanding on my wife's!
    easiest thing to do is jut so speak to them and see


    Is the recruiter looking for a tailored cover letter for her CV and he just communicated it very badly? I have been asked for cover letters for a few roles but it was never put to me like that. Seems odd.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What is the problem?
    Just do it.
    The employer possibly wants to shortlist potential candidates
    I’d normally customise my cv letter for each potential opening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    no problem, just asking for other peoples polite friendly advice:D:D:D
    What is the problem?
    Just do it.
    The employer possibly wants to shortlist potential candidates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 1Caroline


    It's not unusual in my experience. Sometimes it's called a Statement of Suitability. It's an opportunity to show how your experience and quals in the CV make you the best candidate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    duffysfarm wrote: »
    no problem, just asking for other peoples polite friendly advice:D:D:D
    On boards? There's your first mistake :p

    I agree with those above, sounds like a cover letter for the CV but definitely contact the recruiter. They only get paid if their candidate gets the job so it's in their interest to be as helpful as possible. Good luck!


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    duffysfarm wrote: »
    no problem, just asking for other peoples polite friendly advice:D:D:D

    Sorry I didn’t mean that to come off harsh. Apologies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭blindsider


    One Recruitment company I can think of does this a lot - it seems to be their way....starts with 'S'.

    It does feel like the recruiter is being lazy, but perhaps it will help your wife to prepare for an interview - for this, or another role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    A puzzling request from a recruiter who has only just started work? I would be asking more questions of the recruiter, what exactly are they looking for.

    If the letter sent in is not exactly what the employer has said they wanted, and inexperience on the part of the recruiter has led to misinformation the application might easily go no further.

    If the recruiter sounds unsure, ask to talk to a senior person, see is it a reasonable request.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    6541 wrote: »
    Is she a school child ? Tell that recruiter to get lost.


    Are you? A cover letter is a fairly normal part of the recruiting process..


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    looksee wrote: »
    A puzzling request from a recruiter who has only just started work? I would be asking more questions of the recruiter, what exactly are they looking for.

    If the letter sent in is not exactly what the employer has said they wanted, and inexperience on the part of the recruiter has led to misinformation the application might easily go no further.

    If the recruiter sounds unsure, ask to talk to a senior person, see is it a reasonable request.

    What is puzzling about this request?
    It’s a letter to show she has a genuine interest in working for the company, and was not simply chosen at random as there was an open position. This is bog standard cover letter stuff where the applicant can sell themselves a bit.

    Whenever applying for a job you should write a tailored cover letter aimed at the specific job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Aleece2020


    A large portion of job applications seem to require a cover letter these days. It's likely not the recruiter who wants her to do it, but the company does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    Fairly standard to have a cover letter with a CV, no?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Yep just a cover letter, to show you've looked into the company and the position and you can sell yourself. I got my last job mostly because of the cover letter, so it's worth putting in the effort imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Aleece2020


    Yep just a cover letter, to show you've looked into the company and the position and you can sell yourself. I got my last job mostly because of the cover letter, so it's worth putting in the effort imo

    Do you have any tips for writing a good cover letter? I've heard the usual from recruiters, career coaches etc. but I find that the people who have successfully gotten a job based on them tend to have the best advice.


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    Aleece2020 wrote: »
    Do you have any tips for writing a good cover letter? I've heard the usual from recruiters, career coaches etc. but I find that the people who have successfully gotten a job based on them tend to have the best advice.

    Learn a bit about the company, look at your experience/qualifications , and tell them how your experience/qualifications and ambitions make you perfect for the role.

    The cover letter can be the difference between you getting an interview, and not even getting a response

    Just sound really positive and confident (not big headed or cocky), it has never failed me

    And make it clear that you are taking directly to them (the company you are applying to) and not a generic cover letter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Yes, a cover letter, certainly. But this request does not seem absolutely as though it is a cover letter. It implies something that will stand alone rather than go with a cv. Since there is a job at stake, rather than relying on the confident opinions of the internet I am simply saying the OP's wife should look for clarity, 'are you looking for a cover letter?'

    Easiest thing in the world to ask the recruiter, they are simply go-betweens who are there to be asked and provide clarity. Its difficult enough dealing with HR departments at the best of times, they do not seem to have any discretion to interpret, just tick boxes. There are a lot of inexpert people between a job applicant and an ultimate job.


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    looksee wrote: »
    Yes, a cover letter, certainly. But this request does not seem absolutely as though it is a cover letter. It implies something that will stand alone rather than go with a cv. Since there is a job at stake, rather than relying on the confident opinions of the internet I am simply saying the OP's wife should look for clarity, 'are you looking for a cover letter?'

    Easiest thing in the world to ask the recruiter, they are simply go-betweens who are there to be asked and provide clarity. Its difficult enough dealing with HR departments at the best of times, they do not seem to have any discretion to interpret, just tick boxes. There are a lot of inexpert people between a job applicant and an ultimate job.

    My opinion would be, what is not clear about their request.

    “ recruiter is looking for her to write a letter saying why she thinks she should get the job.”

    Ok, let’s not call it a cover letter, but the request is straight forward enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Aleece2020 wrote: »
    Do you have any tips for writing a good cover letter? I've heard the usual from recruiters, career coaches etc. but I find that the people who have successfully gotten a job based on them tend to have the best advice.

    You can just pay another recruitment agency to write your cover letter. Lots of people do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    duffysfarm wrote: »
    my wife is looking to move jobs. she is in quality assurance in pharma. She got a call yesterday for a role that would be ideal - closer to home been the main one as she has a long commute at the moment,
    the recruiter is looking for her to write a letter saying why she thinks she should get the job. this seems a little unusual to me - would this be for the recruitment company or will it go to the company recruiting? i told my wife to call back to the recruitment company and ask them for more guidance on this but i was wondering if some one has any experience on this in the meantime?

    This sounds like one of those grubby Jobs path companies coaching a JSA recepient on how to apply for a job. Absolutely ludicrous request particularly given your wife has clear experience. If the Role is advertised and your wife has actually given permission for her resume to be submitted, her qualifications and experience should suffice in being invited for an interview.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    This sounds like one of those grubby Jobs path companies coaching a JSA recepient on how to apply for a job. Absolutely ludicrous request particularly given your wife has clear experience. If the Role is advertised and your wife has actually given permission for her resume to be submitted, her qualifications and experience should suffice in being invited for an interview.


    Really, hmm let think for a minute.... why would I be bothered to take on someone who can't seem to follow such basic instructions, when there are plenty of candidates who can.... yep can't think of a single reason....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    Really, hmm let think for a minute.... why would I be bothered to take on someone who can't seem to follow such basic instructions, when there are plenty of candidates who can.... yep can't think of a single reason....

    Don't spend too much time thinking but do read the OP, the instruction as you refer to it came form a recruitment agency not the employer. I find it hard to believe any reputable employer, particularly in a high skilled sector would require any candidate to write an absurd and silly letter stating why they want a job, just silly beyond belief as it would appear the agency is.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭silent_spark


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Don't spend too much time thinking but do read the OP, the instruction as you refer to it came form a recruitment agency not the employer. I find it hard to believe any reputable employer, particularly in a high skilled sector would require any candidate to write an absurd and silly letter stating why they want a job, just silly beyond belief as it would appear the agency is.

    The cover letter is to outline why they think they should get the job, not why they want it. This is a really basic element of the recruitment process in most industries, particularly ones not using a detailed application form. It just outlines how their qualifications and experience match the specific requirements of the role. There’s nothing absurd or silly about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    The cover letter is to outline why they think they should get the job, not why they want it. This is a really basic element of the recruitment process in most industries, particularly ones not using a detailed application form. It just outlines how their qualifications and experience match the specific requirements of the role. There’s nothing absurd or silly about it.

    I could understand an entry level position but not a highly skilled roll, particularly Pharma who would take the hand off any highly skilled and experienced applicant at the moment, I just don't buy that a cover letter is required in this scenario, the employer will make a decision whether to meet/interview applicant on the basis of their resume which I assume has been submitted as would be the norm.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Learn a bit about the company, look at your experience/qualifications , and tell them how your experience/qualifications and ambitions make you perfect for the role.

    The cover letter can be the difference between you getting an interview, and not even getting a response

    Just sound really positive and confident (not big headed or cocky), it has never failed me

    And make it clear that you are taking directly to them (the company you are applying to) and not a generic cover letter
    Aleece2020 wrote: »
    Do you have any tips for writing a good cover letter? I've heard the usual from recruiters, career coaches etc. but I find that the people who have successfully gotten a job based on them tend to have the best advice.

    Yeah pretty much everything quoted here.

    Very first thing, get a name to address the letter to if you can, rather than a 'dear sir/madam'.

    Then start with a paragraph where you explicitly say you are applying for this job at this company and give a line or two of why you are right for the job.

    Next an extended section where you talk about yourself and your experiences and in doing so address the key technical points for the job individually and in detail if you can. Expand on the bullet points from your CV here.

    Wrap it up with a paragraph where you talk about the soft skills you have from work and hobbies; team player/independent, management experience, quick learner, open for something new etc. How you will fit in to the new company and what you can offer them. Be specific and always give an example/explanation for why you are e.g. a team player, don't just say it.

    Hope that helps a little, good luck with the application!


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