Herd number water requirement

Rushes1973

What exactly do you need for water? Have a stream passing through the land with access for animals to drink, is that sufficient? Do I need piped water?

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emaherx

Rushes1973 wrote: »

What exactly do you need for water? Have a stream passing through the land with access for animals to drink, is that sufficient? Do I need piped water?

I don't think piped water is required. But I believe in the near future cattle will not be allowed direct access to streams. Pasture pumps, ram pumps and solar pumps would all be options as long as there is sufficient water in the stream.

Mooooo

They'll all be stopped soon, somenmust already keep troughs 20 metres from watercourses and that wont be long coming in for everyone.

bogman_bass

Regardless of what will happen in the future access to a drain is sufficient for the OP for now

emaherx

bogman_bass wrote: »

Regardless of what will happen in the future access to a drain is sufficient for the OP for now

That's true, but no harm in warning what's coming down the line as well.

Fine Day

When the time comes. Set up a solar system pump. Using one here for the last 2 summers from a well on out farm. Great job. I bought it on ebay. Also runs my fencer 2.

Donald Trump

Theheff wrote: »

When the time comes. Set up a solar system pump. Using one here for the last 2 summers from a well on out farm. Great job. I bought it on ebay. Also runs my fencer 2.

How secure are they?

In terms of light-fingered visitors

Do you need to make a special effort to secure them or are they fairly immoveable anyway?

emaherx

Donald Trump wrote: »

How secure are they?

In terms of light-fingered visitors

Do you need to make a special effort to secure them or are they fairly immoveable anyway?

As secure as you make them I suppose.
Mine is made of plywood with plenty of screws to keep would be thieves work for their bounty.

Will probably make a more secure box next year.
https://farmer-eds-shed.com/mobile-solar-water-pump-with-ibc-buffer-tank/

Donald Trump

emaherx wrote: »

As secure as you make them I suppose.
Mine is made of plywood with plenty of screws to keep would be thieves work for their bounty.

Will probably make a more secure box next year.
https://farmer-eds-shed.com/mobile-solar-water-pump-with-ibc-buffer-tank/

The only thing about doing a good job like that is that it can backfire.

We'd never put a lock on the diesel tank here for example. The reason being is that the lads who used to be going around robbing diesel (when it was more widespread) weren't all that concerned with the method of emptying it from the tank - heard stories of lads who'd lock their taps and when their friendly visitors travelled to get some free diesel, they'd leave a tank empty and install a fancy new outlet on the bottom with a pickaxe.

The plywood and screws would stop the casual opportunist but if you are unlucky enough to get the fella who spots it and comes back for it later, he'd just give it a belt of a sledge!

It looks a great job though!

emaherx

Donald Trump wrote: »

The only thing about doing a good job like that is that it can backfire.

We'd never put a lock on the diesel tank here for example. The reason being is that the lads who used to be going around robbing diesel (when it was more widespread) weren't all that concerned with the method of emptying it from the tank - heard stories of lads who'd lock their taps and when their friendly visitors travelled to get some free diesel, they'd leave a tank empty and install a fancy new outlet on the bottom with a pickaxe.

The plywood and screws would stop the casual opportunist but if you are unlucky enough to get the fella who spots it and comes back for it later, he'd just give it a belt of a sledge!

It looks a great job though!

Yea agree, had Diesel stolen here a few years ago. The Garda asked my why I'd no padlock on the tank and I told him this way I only need to replace the fuel and not the tank, not to mention potential clean up operation.

Fine Day

Donald Trump wrote: »

How secure are they?

In terms of light-fingered visitors

Do you need to make a special effort to secure them or are they fairly immoveable anyway?

I have a small block built pump house with a galvanize roof and steel door. Solar panels are fixed on to the roof. I do think a steel door is off putting for a thieve as it would make a fare racket if one tried to force it open. Altho if they want to get in nothing will hold them back.

ruwithme

I was looking to buy a lock with the numbers that line up ((not sure what their called) one day in a shop.

Some lad quipped at me "shur a lock will only stop a honest man "

Genghis Cant

ruwithme wrote: »

I was looking to buy a lock with the numbers that line up ((not sure what their called)"

Combination Lock!

Lime Tree Farm

God helps those who help themselves.

But may God help you if you help yourself to anything around here.

Nekarsulm

Rushes1973 wrote: »

What exactly do you need for water? Have a stream passing through the land with access for animals to drink, is that sufficient? Do I need piped water?

If its for cattle, then one of those Pasture Pumps could be a solution. And you could concrete it in fairly securely.

BnB

Theheff wrote: »

When the time comes. Set up a solar system pump. Using one here for the last 2 summers from a well on out farm. Great job. I bought it on ebay. Also runs my fencer 2.

Have you a link to what you bought (or similar)

Genghis Cant

Nekarsulm wrote: »

If its for cattle, then one of those Pasture Pumps could be a solution. And you could concrete it in fairly securely.

I saw a set up like this along a river. The bit I liked was that the concrete encasing the pump had 3 point linkage set into it that it could be moved if required.

emaherx

BnB wrote: »

Have you a link to what you bought (or similar)

There is links to what I bought in my blog, linked a couple of posts back.

It's straight forward enough.

100W solar panel and charge controller.
100AH Leisure battery
12V pump
Float switch
IBC

I bought a very basic pump and this is the area you need to research, the lift capacity of the pump is important depending on your needs.

The IBC is not necessary if you use a pump with pressure switch and pressure vessel but I like the IBC setup as it provides some backup in case of a breakdown.

You can add a 12V fencer to your setup also.

You can build a very capable solar system for a few hundred, pre built systems can be a few thousand but to be fair their specs are well above what I built and can provide water to several fields from a single unit. Obviously to DIY solution can be scaled up too.