Cattle Head Scoops

funkey_monkey

Was thinking of adding a head scoop to the headgates in our crushes.

Are they all relocatable easily? Plan was to have bracket on each crush and carry the headscoop about as needed.
One is a Morris TB Access Yoke with 3 piece gate, the other 2 are Nugent Universal yokes.

Any recommended brands or things to look out for? I see on other forums there were suggestions to get on with positive lock?

Only fly in the ointment is that for some reason when the crushes were originally build a gate was put adjacent to the headgate, latching into the post that anchors the headgate so I'm not sure how it would fit and whether there would be skinned knuckles etc (one gate is only 2'6 wide).


Thanks.

dohc turbo2

I’m after getting one , it’s very heavy I’d say for moving to different crushes , the one I have is stamped condon , but it’s same as the iae one

ABitofsense

Ive a Barretts one. I take it off when not in use to leave in the shed. Very handy thing to have. Alot cheaper than the ones youve listed

lab man

ABitofsense wrote: »

Ive a Barretts one. I take it off when not in use to leave in the shed. Very handy thing to have. Alot cheaper than the ones youve listed

Have a barrets here too a good job I gave around 600 at dan mc inerney ennis 2 yrs ago for scoop and 2 hinges

funkey_monkey

Just watching this video here and it seems the head still has a bit of movement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPd555Ec88Q

funkey_monkey

Is there any difference in usage between the moulded U-shape headscoop and the rubber lined V-shape scoop?
The V-Shape seems to be deeper which would be no use for dehorning.

funkey_monkey

I think @Mad4Simmental has a Gibney scoop which works on a ratchet.

Noticed this one here which has a much lighter lever than most of the others:



Would have been a better idea if there was something that easily allowed you to push it back in under the scoop when levered up. Maybe just requires something on end to prevent it sliding outwards fully so you can push/pull it in/out.

Jb1989

Mine. Had to specify left or right when buying, idea 9f ratchet is you'll always get animal head down, the one with the lever could get you in to trouble if head had too much pressure, in an emergency to release.

Jb1989

Mine is ratchet wire rope one Had to specify left or right when buying, idea of ratchet is you'll always get animal head down, the one with the lever could get you in to trouble if head had too much pressure, in an emergency to release. Was maybe around 600. Gibney I think

funkey_monkey

Jb1989 wrote: »

Mine is ratchet wire rope one Had to specify left or right when buying, idea of ratchet is you'll always get animal head down, the one with the lever could get you in to trouble if head had too much pressure, in an emergency to release. Was maybe around 600. Gibney I think

Like this one the Mad4Sim had?
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97966298&postcount=10

Jb1989

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Like this one the Mad4Sim had?
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97966298&postcount=10

Yes that's the one. Think it was 550 or 580 actually, 2 year ago

funkey_monkey

How many revolutions to get the head of a cow locked?
It seems it would be a bit slower than the lever type.


This is neat looking crush - some great ideas - not sure about the fixed position of the head scoop, but like the scissor action of the additional bar coming down from above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGuWft_YsIg

Jb1989

funkey_monkey wrote: »

How many revolutions to get the head of a cow locked?
It seems it would be a bit slower than the lever type.


This is neat looking crush - some great ideas - not sure about the fixed position of the head scoop, but like the scissor action of the additional bar coming down from above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGuWft_YsIg

9 revolutions in total.
Very quick to tighten or loosen and inch or two if head needs adjusting, ratchet is geared.

Lime Tree Farm

http://www.odonnellengineering.ie/products/head-lifter/

we have an older version of this one, in painted steel. The teeth on ratchet wheel wore down after very little use. Note how slim the wheel is on the galvanised one.

A headscoop that would roll up from the floor would be handy, cows get wise to the headscoop and put the head to the floor in anticipation.

funkey_monkey

Is the ratchet replaceable easily - or is it welded on?

funkey_monkey

Jb1989 wrote: »

9 revolutions in total.
Very quick to tighten or loosen and inch or two if head needs adjusting, ratchet is geared.

Does it have a quick release?

Lime Tree Farm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Is the ratchet replaceable easily - or is it welded on?

I must have a look at that option, thanks.

Jb1989

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Does it have a quick release?

The quick release is simply turn handle the other way to desired height. It won't jam like the big lever one. Scoop just holds wherever you turn the handle to