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NEW CHARTER - last updated 26/11/2020 *Please read before posting!*

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  • 11-11-2020 3:50pm
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    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Please read the FAQ before posting to understand what the forum is about and to make sure your post is relevant to the forum.

    What can I post here?


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    • A fundamental tenet of veganism is that animals are sentient beings which deserve rights and to live their lives free without being exploited or harmed for human gain. This means that certain aspects of human interaction with animals, both wild and domesticated, which many people see as perfectly fine are seen as unethical by vegans. Vegans appreciate that many people who work with, own or care for animals genuinely love the animals they interact with, but that doesn't change that those interactions may go against vegan fundamental beliefs. This is a Vegan belief system and in this forum that belief can be discussed in a respectful and considerate manner from a vegan and vegetarian point of view without being shouted down.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,501 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Following on from some feedback we have updated the new charter as follows,
    Faith wrote: »
    • A fundamental tenet of veganism is that animals are sentient beings which deserve rights and to live their lives free without being exploited or harmed for human gain. This means that certain aspects of human interaction with animals, both wild and domesticated, which many people see as perfectly fine are seen as unethical by vegans. Vegans appreciate that many people who work with, own or care for animals genuinely love the animals they interact with, but that doesn't change that those interactions may go against vegan fundamental beliefs. This is a Vegan belief system and in this forum that belief can be discussed in a respectful and considerate manner from a vegan and vegetarian point of view without being shouted down.

    (Mod note: updated wording added on 26/11/2020, and the below stands. -Faith)

    The mod team feels at this time the new charter is robust and we would like to give it some time to see if it adequately meets the needs of the forum, as well as addressing some of the issues that have been cropping up in recent times.

    With that in mind, there are no plans for further updates to the charter for the next few weeks. We would like to now observe the effect the updated charter has on the forum, and the conduct of posters, so further additions risk making it unnecessarily cluttered or nuanced.

    We will review this again in the new year (which is only 6 weeks away!) and if posts in the forum has become less antagonistic and combative then we will also have a new feedback thread in the new year too :)


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