GW8 Captain?

Father Hernandez

Who you got?

Thread 2.0 with a poll.

Chesty08

Thinking of going with Chilwell.

Just don’t like early kick off matches.

CSF

Chesty08 wrote: »

Thinking of going with Chilwell.

Just don’t like early kick off matches.

I was having notions of that earlier too. I’ll never do it though.

gammygils

Son

Cartman78

Probably Kane

cizolin

Ziyech

FourFourRED

Have to go with Kane this week. Mick Keane VC just in case.

Dubh Geannain

Captain Kaneman

dr.kenneth noisewater

Have it on Kane with Werner as VC but tempted to swap them around

shmeee

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Have it on Kane with Werner as VC but tempted to swap them around

Done exactly that.

Punt city!

With him on penalties now it is also a good help.

Mr.Prodston

Seriously tempted by Werner, but Frank could have notions of benching him like he wanted last week?

Floating towards Salah rather than Son as that game will either by 1-1 or catch fire

begbysback

Adams, with Dingsy out and Southampton playing well this will be my first captain punt of the season

Punting Ziyech this week first captain one of the season

begbysback

begbysback wrote: »

Adams, with Dingsy out and Southampton playing well this will be my first captain punt of the season

Actually scratch that, SU are really crap, Werner it is, hopefully he starts.

Brian201888

Son, Werner or Kane in that order probably, haven't captained Son yet this season but kind of fancy him this weekend. If I was certain Werner starts I'd go him

Father Hernandez

begbysback wrote: »

Adams, with Dingsy out and Southampton playing well this will be my first captain punt of the season

I like it. GL

dsmythy

Kane. Solid.

Chesty08

begbysback wrote: »

Actually scratch that, SU are really crap, Werner it is, hopefully he starts.

Sheff U don’t concede a lot though

shmeee

begbysback wrote: »

Actually scratch that, SU are really crap, Werner it is, hopefully he starts.

"Lampard says he was planning on giving Timo Werner a rest at Burnley but obviously that didn't happen. He says he will look to manage his minutes in the future but not necessarily tomorrow, particularly as he is in such good form and building relationships."

That will do me!

CSF

Have people gone too far on Ziyech? Goal and an assist yes last week, but from an xG of 0.04 and an xA of 0.35. Does that run the risk of being a case of chasing last week's points rather than following the form?


Have seen the talk about Sheffield United being particularly vulnerable on that side of late, but A) given that Wilder is a defense first manager he will have unquestionably been devoting real time to shoring that up and at 8% ownership, having him might be enough of a differential if he does well, especially considering he hasn't played 90 minutes yet this season, and played 75 minutes on Wednesday, so probably isn't an odds-on candidate to be on the pitch in the last 20 minutes when Sheffield United might really have to open up to try salvage something from the game if they're behind.

Dearg81

I'm gonna take a punt on De Bruyne just cos he's quite good at football.

CSF

CSF wrote: »

Have people gone too far on Ziyech? Goal and an assist yes last week, but from an xG of 0.04 and an xA of 0.35. Does that run the risk of being a case of chasing last week's points rather than following the form?


Have seen the talk about Sheffield United being particularly vulnerable on that side of late, but A) given that Wilder is a defense first manager he will have unquestionably been devoting real time to shoring that up and at 8% ownership, having him might be enough of a differential if he does well, especially considering he hasn't played 90 minutes yet this season, and played 75 minutes on Wednesday, so probably isn't an odds-on candidate to be on the pitch in the last 20 minutes when Sheffield United might really have to open up to try salvage something from the game if they're behind.

For me anyways this is lining up for a good weekend to have a differential, like Kane and Son (own both) are the least risky play and will be very highly captained.

Ziyech is my best option imo of scoring highest after them, so if the other 2 blank and he goes off (big if) i gain on many players, and there is only 2 players to dodge playing in the same game to do so. Slightly different in a normal week when the cpatincy is more spread.

I'm going into the weekend expected a red arrow most likely but I think its a decent calculated risk and if they do score big im protected to some degree by having them

begbysback

Actually scratch the scratch, Adams it is, no gamble no future, with a double pool defence this week could go very wrong.

CSF

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For me anyways this is lining up for a good weekend to have a differential, like Kane and Son (own both) are the least risky play and will be very highly captained.

Ziyech is my best option imo of scoring highest after them, so if the other 2 blank and he goes off (big if) i gain on many players, and there is only 2 players to dodge playing in the same game to do so. Slightly different in a normal week when the cpatincy is more spread.

I'm going into the weekend expected a red arrow most likely but I think its a decent calculated risk and if they do score big im protected to some degree by having them

I don’t fully get the logic here considering it’s very early in the season.

Is it that you think Ziyech is a better shout for points than Son or Kane or that you feel you need to go a different route after falling behind early?

If the former, what led you in that direction? I’ve seen a few people going that route so been trying to analyse it and can’t fully grasp it in terms of numbers.

titan18

Going with Son

CSF

CSF wrote: »

I don’t fully get the logic here considering it’s very early in the season.

Is it that you think Ziyech is a better shout for points than Son or Kane or that you feel you need to go a different route after falling behind early?

If the former, what led you in that direction? I’ve seen a few people going that route so been trying to analyse it and can’t fully grasp it in terms of numbers.

Its kinda like a 10/1 shot which i think is value as opposed to not. in betting terms.

So i think in the long run making this decision would be a points positive long term but is still unlikely to work out often if that makes sense

Edit:

or say you were in a 1 week league with 10 players and you knew everyone else was going to captain kane, you pick someone else and all the times kane blanks you have a much higher % chance of winning.

but you most likely lose when he hit but in the long run you win that 1 week enough to profit.

I've no idea if im right here either i could be talking cake but just feels right to me.

Hopefully that makes a little sense

Irishphotodesk

Picking lookman ... Here's hoping

Open the Pubs

Werner

CSF

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Its kinda like a 10/1 shot which i think is value as opposed to not. in betting terms.

So i think in the long run making this decision would be a points positive long term but is still unlikely to work out often if that makes sense

Edit:

or say you were in a 1 week league with 10 players and you knew everyone else was going to captain kane, you pick someone else and all the times kane blanks you have a much higher % chance of winning.

but you most likely lose when he hit but in the long run you win that 1 week more often then not.

I've no idea if im right here either i could be talking cake but just feels right to me.

Hopefully that makes a little sense

I think I understand what you’re going for now. Are the odds not against you in such a move if you consider the other guys more likely to return though? Especially since you don’t have to use a transfer to get the Tottenham guys in for a captaincy.

Of course, if Ziyech hauls and these guys blank you are laughing, but does the odds disparity between them not mean that you are more likely for all your rivals to be getting a much more dangerous differential of Kane or Son now on you?

I’m a big fan of a differential too, but usually only when I think they’ll perform similarly well or better to the most popular choices. That’s why I was originally wondering if you had some nuggets pointing to Ziyech being just as likely to haul.

For me, next week is a great week for a differential captain with Spurs and City playing each other and Liverpool facing Leicester which could be tricky based on their recent league form.

ThewhiteJesus

i usually like a leftfield captain but Harry seems the standout this week so i got him in and gave him the armband

CSF

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

i usually like a leftfield captain but Harry seems the standout this week so i got him in and gave him the armband

I’ve done the same because West Brom are so bad and Kane is only 2 games since looking really good. His last 2 performances would mean he’s probably out next week unless he really looks great this weekend.

Father Hernandez

Went Son (C), Kane (VC)

CSF

CSF wrote: »

I think I understand what you’re going for now. Are the odds not against you in such a move if you consider the other guys more likely to return though? Especially since you don’t have to use a transfer to get the Tottenham guys in for a captaincy.

Of course, if Ziyech hauls and these guys blank you are laughing, but does the odds disparity between them not mean that you are more likely for all your rivals to be getting a much more dangerous differential of Kane or Son now on you?

I’m a big fan of a differential too, but usually only when I think they’ll perform similarly well or better to the most popular choices. That’s why I was originally wondering if you had some nuggets pointing to Ziyech being just as likely to haul.

For me, next week is a great week for a differential captain with Spurs and City playing each other and Liverpool facing Leicester which could be tricky based on their recent league form.

Well for me its the higher % ownership in one game that makes it easier for me, so in my head at least Zietch needs to perform better a much smaller % of the time to make it worth while.

Im also hedged this week by owning both aswell so when i lose out i dont lose by as much.

As I said im not sure im right but with having both covered it kinda feels right

CSF

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well for me its the higher % ownership in one game that makes it easier for me, so in my head at least Zietch needs to perform better a much smaller % of the time to make it worth while.

Im also hedged this week by owning both aswell so when i lose out i dont lose by as much.

As I said im not sure im right but with having both covered it kinda feels right

It’s a messy one to calculate in the brain without knowing what the expected points are for Ziyech this week relative to Kane and Son. Paddy Power has them about 33% more likely to score (assist odds would probably be similar) but with Ziyech having played one game in the Premier League really, they’re kind of guessing.

Anyway, deadline gone, no more strategising to be done. Best of luck for the weekend!!!

CSF

CSF wrote: »

It’s a messy one to calculate in the brain without knowing what the expected points are for Ziyech this week relative to Kane and Son. Paddy Power has them about 33% more likely to score (assist odds would probably be similar) but with Ziyech having played one game in the Premier League really, they’re kind of guessing.

Anyway, deadline gone, no more strategising to be done. Best of luck for the weekend!!!

Ya tbf the more ive been trying to explain my reasoning the less I think it was right :pac:but here we are

Cheers good luck to you too

itsnotmyfault

Rolling the dice this week and went with chilwell

Irishphotodesk

itsnotmyfault wrote: »

Rolling the dice this week and went with chilwell

Well done !! Granted the clean sheet is gone ...but goal in the bag and opportunity to get amongst the bps

CSF

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Well done !! Granted the clean sheet is gone ...but goal in the bag and opportunity to get amongst the bps

I vice captained him. I'd nearly be hoping for Kane to have a rest day, although Dallas is my 1st sub, so maybe Chilwell would have to do a bit more before I can legitimately hope for that.

itsnotmyfault

He could have had a hat-trick. Hopefully he gets another attacking return in the second half.

CSF

CSF wrote: »

Have people gone too far on Ziyech? Goal and an assist yes last week, but from an xG of 0.04 and an xA of 0.35. Does that run the risk of being a case of chasing last week's points rather than following the form?


Have seen the talk about Sheffield United being particularly vulnerable on that side of late, but A) given that Wilder is a defense first manager he will have unquestionably been devoting real time to shoring that up and at 8% ownership, having him might be enough of a differential if he does well, especially considering he hasn't played 90 minutes yet this season, and played 75 minutes on Wednesday, so probably isn't an odds-on candidate to be on the pitch in the last 20 minutes when Sheffield United might really have to open up to try salvage something from the game if they're behind.

He sure looks the part here. Haul or no, it is clear that I know nothing.

AdpRo

CSF wrote: »

He sure looks the part here. Haul or no, it is clear that I know nothing.

First time I’ve watched him live, he is a class apart today, could have had 4 or 5 assists.

CSF

AdpRo wrote: »

First time I’ve watched him live, he is a class apart today, could have had 4 or 5 assists.

I watched last week and the xG and xA stats spoke for themselves. Today he has looked like a star and I'm left wondering if its him I should be chasing in this Chelsea attack now and not Werner. Ideally I would have liked to see how the team looks like with Pulisic in it, before making a decision like that.

FourFourRED

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Well done !! Granted the clean sheet is gone ...but goal in the bag and opportunity to get amongst the bps

Not in the bonus points as in stands. Turning 8 into 16 was a good result though.

siblers

FourFourFM wrote: »

Not in the bonus points as in stands. Turning 8 into 16 was a good result though.

Winning goal might bring him up. It's pretty tight

FourFourRED

siblers wrote: »

Winning goal might bring him up. It's pretty tight

https://twitter.com/officialfpl/status/1325158343313248263?s=12

Irishphotodesk

FourFourFM wrote: »

Not in the bonus points as in stands. Turning 8 into 16 was a good result though.

He beat my captain .... lookman, wasted a nice penalty opportunity....earned me zero points.