archery bow for hunting?.

bassy

hey all anyone ever try a archery bow for hunting small game,also would a 30lb or 40lb bow be good enough.

also how accurate is a bow from 50 or 60 feet?.
was told you need special tips on the arrows,cause if you use a sharp tip it will only go straight true the small game and he will run away some where to die.
you need a tip that will kinda knock him for 6.

Feisar

Bow hunting is illegal here.

bassy

Feisar wrote: »

Bow hunting is illegal here.

oh sorry i never knew that.

Feisar

bassy wrote: »

oh sorry i never knew that.

No need to apologise!

Zxthinger

Unfortunately its illegal here. However, in other countries it is still a very effective method of game harvesting.
People need to be proficient and that takes training. You also find that most US states specifically quote 45lbs as the min for deer hunting.
Some states also dictate the types of broadheads that a hunter must use.

It's a billion dollar industry in US. Ireland and the UK are the only two English speaking countries that prohibit it.

The ways things are going I'm just be happy to have a gun that launches projectiles. Lol

RaySla

If you want to get into archery I recommend that you join an archery club so you can learn the basics and choose what avenue you want to go down wether it be compound or recurve bow. there are a good few archery clubs around. Where are you living I might be able to put you in the right direction.

bassy

RaySla wrote: »

If you want to get into archery I recommend that you join an archery club so you can learn the basics and choose what avenue you want to go down wether it be compound or recurve bow. there are a good few archery clubs around. Where are you living I might be able to put you in the right direction.

whats the difference between recurve and compund bow,the compound bow has more power ye and is for a experienced archer?.no?.

im on the kilkenny laois bordei was looking at man kung compund bows.
i prefer the robin hood type bow,them ones with the wheels look odd looking to me lol.

feelpablo

bassy wrote: »

whats the difference between recurve and compund bow,the compound bow has more power ye and is for a experienced archer?.no?.

im on the kilkenny laois bordei was looking at man kung compund bows.
i prefer the robin hood type bow,them ones with the wheels look odd looking to me lol.

I never shot a bow before and purchased a second hand compound in febuary.


i have fallen in love with archery since, you have to put in a lot of work and its all about repetiton and doing the exact same thing the exact same way every time.


compound bows are basically just higher powered robin hood type bows.


they can extract more poundage due to the use of cams (wheels).


i have no clubs or no one around me to teach me but done a lot of research and followed john dudleys youtube classes called "school of nock"


best of luck with it all

bassy

compund bows in now way resemble a robin hood bow.

whats your accuracy from 50 meters ?.

feelpablo

bassy wrote: »

compund bows in now way resemble a robin hood bow.

whats your accuracy from 50 meters ?.

well as you call it " Robin Hood" is actually called a longbow and used in traditonal archery.


Id also beg to differ that they dont resemble each other! They both have a string, they both have risers, they both have limbs. the only difference is the cams which aids the higher poundage which in turn lets you shoot longer distances at a higher accuracy.



There are two main types of modern bow compounds and recurve.


recurves dont have the cams but have longer limbs which can generate speed and power.


30 to 90 meters is the standard distance for outdoor targets
indoor is usually 18 or 25 i think


im fairly ok at fifty

cookimonster

I picked up cheap garden recurve bows from Decathlon in France many years back. I usually break them out in the summer and while away a few afternoons with them, mostly just at 20 yards. I made a few thumpers out of fibre glass target arrows with 308 cases epoxied to the tips for shooting tin cans and blocks of wood.

I find anything like catapults, archery and knife throwing very relaxing but at the same time stimulating, .... with out actually editing this, I rephrase it- 'de-stressing' is a better description

feelpablo

I find it a huge stress reducer.!! I spend easily an hour each day at the weekend letting off arrows and it has reignited my love of all things shooting.

I nearly sold my guns a couple of years ago as I wasn’t using them, a double barrel trap gun and an air rifle but in the last month I’ve been shooting too.

Not only that but as a long time lurker on this hunting forum it’s made me take the jump into hunting and I have just bought my first .308

As a tool for a bit of sport and target shooting it’s fantastic value

cookimonster

feelpablo wrote: »

As a tool for a bit of sport and target shooting it’s fantastic value

My Father introduced me to archery when I was younger, although it wasn't a regular thing.
His childhood was of different times and perspectives, buying antique muzzle loaders in junk shops and using shotgun shells to load them, school boys making home made explosives (chemical experiments), hand made bows, freely bought air rifles, etc, etc all stuff frowned upon now.
As a youngster I got to enjoy some of the same pleasures altough the science projects and horse pistols were consigned to history and secrecy.
I learned some of the rudimentaries of archery with a fibre glass recurve bow and a few half decent home made bows that were well capable of skewering your neighbour and on several occasions a crossbow would turn up. At one stage I remember a cousin bringing around a Barrnet Commando, all I remember was that it was heavy, too heavy.
I might take the plunge and invest some Covid savings into a compound bow for the coming year.

To the OP, when the craziness is behind us look into 3D archery, there is or was a few locations around.

Have a look at this site - Shooting Style, looks like a one stop shop.

https://www.shootingstyle.ie/view_product.php?cat_id=123

feelpablo

Some fantastic memories there by the sounds of things.

To the op another option for your archery needs and it’s where I do 90% of my archery shopping from is www.merlinarchery.com

It’s a great site and always great customer service

bassy

whats a very good compound bow to buy under 200 euros

feelpablo

bassy wrote: »

whats a very good compound bow to buy under 200 euros

Now I’ll be honest I’m no expert, but I done a huge amount of reading before I bought and all the knowledge out there will tell you there is no such thing at that price point.

The brands to stick to are pse, Hoyt, and matthews.

I’ll see if I can figure out what the starter bows come in at

cookimonster

feelpablo wrote: »

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To the op another option for your archery needs and it’s where I do 90% of my archery shopping from is www.merlinarchery.com

It’s a great site and always great customer service

Snap.... just found it. All ready eyeing up some of the 10-60 lbs adjustable bows.

feelpablo

https://www.merlinarchery.co.uk/pse-uprising-compound-package.html

Pse Full kit including scope and stabiliser so all you need is arrows

feelpablo

https://www.merlinarchery.co.uk/hoyt-fireshot-compound-bow.html

Hoyt entry level no scope or stabiliser inc

feelpablo

https://www.merlinarchery.co.uk/mission-radik-compound-bow.html

Matthews entry level bow... no scope or stabiliser

feelpablo

Now I have no idea how those bows shoot!

I bought a thirty year old compound in February and got the bug but it was such a hunk of junk I bought a pse centrix from the states in March.

This was the best decision I made as I’ll always spend time at archery now thanks to having a better bow and an understanding of it.

A couple of things you need to look for in buying a bow

1. Adjustable draw length ie: the distance you personally have to pull the bow string back. It needs to be adjustable and your length needs to be in that distance.

2. Pull weight or poundage. A 60lb bow may sound great and all but you may not be able to pull the thing back! All modern bows have a let off value in percent. This is how much weight comes off when you are at full draw( all the way back).
You need a bow that you can adjust .. as a beginner something in 30 - 50/60 lb.


Last but not least if you can’t get to a club start reading and watching every video you ca
Enjoy

bassy

can you get 1000FPS?

feelpablo

bassy wrote: »

can you get 1000FPS?

😂😂 I would doubt it!!

My bow is about 280/290 .. the highest number I’ve heard is maybe 380

bassy

feelpablo wrote: »

���� I would doubt it!!

My bow is about 280/290 .. the highest number I’ve heard is maybe 380

just thats like a bb gun there about 320 FPS and a bb gun is crap.
i like something thats gonna penetrate from a 100 yrds lol

feelpablo

bassy wrote: »

just thats like a bb gun there about 320 FPS and a bb gun is crap.
i like something thats gonna penetrate from a 100 yrds lol

I’m not being funny here or smart man but you need to do a bit of research on all this.

Comparing a .22 air rifle pellet to a 28 inch arrow that ways 500 grains with a broad head attached is a world of difference!!!!!!

As already stated it’s illegal to hunt here with a bow but in other country’s elk and big red deer are hunted with compound bows... usually the closer the better the same as with a rifle but I have watched videos of real good archers taking a buck at 100yards.

Comparable fps maybe but transferable energy at entry point and weight of projectile are not.

I will gladly point you in the way of some reading on it all

Rows Grower

I put a very good quality recurve bow set with everything you need to get started up for sale in the archery forum fairly recently, Winstar riser and Kap Challenger limbs.

It's 68" inches and 36lbs, once you're strong enough to hold it steady and aim at full draw it's very, very accurate and powerful.

Proper Robin Hood stuff, very little use, 200 euro and away you go.

It's for target archery and the same set up would be used by a lot of competitors.

bassy

Rows Grower wrote: »

I put a very good quality recurve bow set with everything you need to get started up for sale in the archery forum fairly recently, Winstar riser and Kap Challenger limbs.

It's 68" inches and 36lbs, once you're strong enough to hold it steady and aim at full draw it's very, very accurate and powerful.

Proper Robin Hood stuff, very little use, 200 euro and away you go.

after a 50lbs plus

endacl

bassy wrote: »

after a 50lbs plus

I’ve never driven before. Gimme the keys to a F1 car please. Why? Because I don’t want to get able. I just want to be able.

bassy

endacl wrote: »

I’ve never driven before. Gimme the keys to a F1 car please. Why? Because I don’t want to get able. I just want to be able.

not starting off with a starter kit and put more exspense in to it later on,i will start with whats best and not have to upgrade simple as.

by the way im right handed but use my left eye to aim will a right handed bow suit ?.
i feel comfortable with the bow in left or right hand,but as i say i use my left eye for aiming.

Rows Grower

bassy wrote: »

not starting off with a starter kit and put more exspense in to it later on,i will start with whats best and not have to upgrade simple as.

by the way im right handed but use my left eye to aim will a right handed bow suit ?.
i feel comfortable with the bow in left or right hand,but as i say i use my left eye for aiming.

Yeah a right handed bow will suit.

A 36lb bow is not a starter kit, you'd want to be stronger than average to draw back the bow string. To hold it steady enough to aim at and hit any target consistently at a reasonable range takes a lot of practice and strength.

If you've never fired an arrow before there's a better chance that you will win the lotto than hit a barn door from 100 yards with a 50lb recurve bow.

bassy

Rows Grower wrote: »

Yeah a right handed bow will suit.

A 36lb bow is not a starter kit, you'd want to be stronger than average to draw back the bow string. To hold it steady enough to aim at and hit any target consistently at a reasonable range takes a lot of practice and strength.

If you've never fired an arrow before there's a better chance that you will win the lotto than hit a barn door from 100 yards with a 50lb recurve bow.

boy god i would surprise you so,never used a bow before.

did a paint ball target years ago and never done it before i hit 95 percent of the targets the fella said unusual,i said what is he said your right handed and left eye dominant thats unusual enough he said.also he asked had i shot before i said never my first time at this crack i don,t think he believed me.

Bogwoppit

bassy wrote: »

boy god i would surprise you so,never used a bow before.

did a paint ball target years ago and never done it before i hit 95 percent of the targets the fella said unusual,i said what is he said your right handed and left eye dominant thats unusual enough he said.also he asked had i shot before i said never my first time at this crack i don,t think he believed me.

You’d be a horse of a lad if you could sh1te walking without dirtying your heels.

feelpablo

Thought you needed 100fps

Rows Grower

bassy wrote: »

boy god i would surprise you so,never used a bow before.

did a paint ball target years ago and never done it before i hit 95 percent of the targets the fella said unusual,i said what is he said your right handed and left eye dominant thats unusual enough he said.also he asked had i shot before i said never my first time at this crack i don,t think he believed me.

There's a big difference between being able to pull the trigger on a paint ball gun and shooting with a recurve bow.

An infant child could pull the trigger on a paint ball gun, what age are you?

endacl

bassy wrote: »

boy god i would surprise you so,never used a bow before.

did a paint ball target years ago and never done it before i hit 95 percent of the targets the fella said unusual,i said what is he said your right handed and left eye dominant thats unusual enough he said.also he asked had i shot before i said never my first time at this crack i don,t think he believed me.

bassy

ill split the arrow aka the robin hood shot

bassy

if your a right handed person and you pick up a catapult what hand do you hold the catapult with?.

Rosahane

Theres a really nice Hoyt bow up in Hilltop that the owner used before he hurt his shoulder. Its 90 - 110 lbs though so might be a bit too powerful for you.

You could give them a ring if your interested!

extremetaz

Rows Grower wrote: »

A 36lb bow is not a starter kit, you'd want to be stronger than average to draw back the bow string. To hold it steady enough to aim at and hit any target consistently at a reasonable range takes a lot of practice and strength.

Absolutely correct - I shot 50m olympic through my teen years with a 38lb bow. No way that's where you want to start.

25lb or less, build up your technique, consistency and release; then progress.

Rows Grower wrote: »

If you've never fired an arrow before there's a better chance that you will win the lotto than hit a barn door from 100 yards with a 50lb recurve bow.

I'd even go so far as to say Euromillions - not a chance of getting within 10m of the same PoI as a first timer on that bow at that range.

bassy wrote: »

whats the difference between recurve and compund bow,the compound bow has more power ye and is for a experienced archer?.no?.

Compound has more power yes, but you can start on them and in some ways they're easier to shoot than recurve.

bassy wrote: »

robin hood type bow

As mentioned -> English longbow - now those are a true art form to use well!
Of the three, definitely the hardest to anything at range with. Far greater draw strength required than either of the others at any given range.

Rosahane

bassy wrote: »

ill split the arrow aka the robin hood shot

Here is a nice English longbow like Robin Hood might have used:

https://www.thelongbowshop.com/collections/english-longbows/products/english-warbow-custom

Its a nice beginner version at 100 - 120 lbs - probably what teenagers would have used before they got their full adult muscles for the full weight military bow of 150-190 lbs!

Actually this one is better value and recommended (youtube archers etc https://youtu.be/bUXm_LgZsSc?t=81 )

for £170

15 to 70 lbs adjustable and draw length also very adjustable

so a child could use it all the way up to a hunter

https://www.pellpax.co.uk/archery/compound-bows/complete-compound-bows/ek-archery-assassin-compound-bow/17452

same model, even though he quotes slightly different specs on draw weight

adjustable with just an allen key

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJZY_vKIbcM

Rows Grower

This is the set I have up for sale in the archery forum on here, everything needed to compete is included and has had very little use.....

extremetaz

Rows Grower wrote: »

This is the set I have up for sale in the archery forum on here, everything needed to compete is included and has had very little use.....

Very good looking starter rig right there.