Helen McEntee wants to reinstate the Magdalene Laundries.... lol, *facepalm*

bo0li5eumx12kp

Confirmed by thejournal.ie

Aug 11th 2020

AN ACCOMMODATION UNIT for women living in Direct Provision who have suffered sexual exploitation is to be set up, the Department of Justice & Equality has confirmed to TheJournal.ie.

The dedicated unit will be located in the East of the country and will be run by DePaul and Ruhama, an Irish charity offering support to women affected by commercial sexual exploitation.

For the uninitiated, Helen McEntee is the current Irish Minister for Justice.

So in response to her proposal as per the title, first of all, allow me to say,

:pac: :pac: :pac:

Mmmmkay?

Now that we've adequately derided this ludicrous modernization of pre-historic incompetence, let's have a look at how this issue transpired in times gone by.

If you're not familiar with the Magdalene Laundries, I've compiled a highlight vid, for your viewing pleasure,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26cqhXC-S2A

Some further articles of interest in relation to said institution,

"Promiscuous women tortured by "Sisters of Mercy" (no hypocrisy there)"

"Sisterhood of nuns responsible for mass burial of more than 800 babies and children, whom they promised to protect"

"Murder of more than 1600 "fallen" women at hands of "Sisters of Mercy" (no hypocrisy there)"


This list goes on and on.

It's like Irelands own historically suppressed holocaust.

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Well, it's a shame to report that, that very same organization - is up to their ol' tricks again.

Sweet Helen in all her wisdom, wishes to instate direct provision (emergency shelter - much criticized for humanitarian injustices) for sex workers and victims of human trafficking (i.e. "fallen women").

But if that wasn't enough, she wishes to grant authority of these centers to that very same institution, the "Sisters of Mercy" (aka the "torture nuns"), who additionally go under their contemporary alias, "Ruhama".

I think the point is, if past performance is a good indicator of future results, it'd be disconcerting if this wasn't cause for concern.

A journalist and advocate for distinction between sex-work VS human-trafficking, that goes by the name Emma-Jane Dempsey, has organized a petition to intervene in this modern day hapless incompetence currently being exhibited by the Irish Department of Justice and their zealous leader, Ms McEntee.

I'll take the liberty of speaking on her behalf when I say, "your input, by way of your signature on said petition, would be appreciated".

Link to petition to be submitted to Ms McEntee and Department of Justice:



Reason for signing (excerpt):

"Ruhama are a rebranded Magdalene nuns, putting human traffickers in charge of victims of human trafficking is so far beyond obscene the people doing this can only be called evil".

biko

Tbh mate, I haven't a notion what you're on about.

bo0li5eumx12kp

biko wrote: »

Tbh mate, I haven't a notion what you're on about.

Okay it's like this.

Emotionally unstable women have formed an organisation called "Ruhama" (endorsed by current MEP Francis Fitzgerald and Minister for Justice Helen McEntee)

Said emotionally unstable women want to punish other women who they consider to be of low moral fiber.

They did this successfully in the 18/1900's where they enslaved, then murdered manies a woman, child, baby etc - put them in mass graves.
As well as engaging in actual human trafficking.
i.e. they took vulnerable women and children and trafficked them around the world for forced labour.

That organisation lives on under the aforementioned title "Ruhama", funded by the Irish government, and now the current minister for justice wants to grant them authority over "care" centers for sex workers and victims of human trafficking in Ireland.

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So, she wants to take an organization whom in the past have actively engaged in human trafficking, and put victims of human trafficking under their care, in a series of centers (known as direct provision) which have already been criticized for being inhumane.

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You can sign this petition to voice your objection with this situation.

I guess that's about it in a nutshell.

elperello

Link to actual proposal?

bo0li5eumx12kp

elperello wrote: »

Link to actual proposal?

https://my.uplift.ie/petitions/stop-ruhama-from-getting-responsibility-over-direct-provision-for-sex-trafficking-survivors?source=twitter-share-button&utm_medium=myuplift&utm_source=twitter&share=d39e44c5-4593-4b4e-b41a-169b2829b965

yoursaviour1989

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

https://my.uplift.ie/petitions/stop-ruhama-from-getting-responsibility-over-direct-provision-for-sex-trafficking-survivors?source=twitter-share-button&utm_medium=myuplift&utm_source=twitter&share=d39e44c5-4593-4b4e-b41a-169b2829b965

That's not a link to the actual story.

elperello

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

https://my.uplift.ie/petitions/stop-ruhama-from-getting-responsibility-over-direct-provision-for-sex-trafficking-survivors?source=twitter-share-button&utm_medium=myuplift&utm_source=twitter&share=d39e44c5-4593-4b4e-b41a-169b2829b965

Thanks for that but I meant the Department of Justice proposal.

whippet

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

I guess that's about it in a nutshell.

title of thread

Helen McEntee wants to reinstate the Magdalene Laundries.... lol, *facepalm*

content of OP's posts with confirming this

zero

*facepalm* alright

sydthebeat

googled "Helen McEntee wants to reinstate the Magdalene Laundries"


found nothing

bo0li5eumx12kp

yoursaviour1989 wrote: »

That's not a link to the actual story.

You want a link to the initial proposal?

https://www.thejournal.ie/accomodation-to-be-set-up-for-victims-of-sexual-exploitation-living-in-direct-provision-5171918-Aug2020/

I thought this was common knowledge since way back in August.

Aug 11th 2020

AN ACCOMMODATION UNIT for women living in Direct Provision who have suffered sexual exploitation is to be set up, the Department of Justice & Equality has confirmed to TheJournal.ie.

The dedicated unit will be located in the East of the country and will be run by DePaul and Ruhama, an Irish charity offering support to women affected by commercial sexual exploitation.

whippet

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

You want a link to the initial proposal?

https://www.thejournal.ie/accomodation-to-be-set-up-for-victims-of-sexual-exploitation-living-in-direct-provision-5171918-Aug2020/

I thought this was common knowledge since way back in August.

Where is the laundries mentioned ... the abuse and exploitation mentioned .. or are you just opposed to the idea and decide the best way to get people to agree with your outrage is to invent a link between this and an abhorrent time in our recent history ?

skooterblue2

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

Said emotionally unstable women want to punish other women who they consider to be of low moral fiber.

"Emotionally unstable women want to punish other women", take their children and re-educate them and hate men?

That sounds like a job for Tusla and the departments of health and social welfare.

How about you focus on the real exploiters of Human trafficking? The Bin Laden family and their associates?

is_that_so

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

You want a link to the initial proposal?

https://www.thejournal.ie/accomodation-to-be-set-up-for-victims-of-sexual-exploitation-living-in-direct-provision-5171918-Aug2020/

I thought this was common knowledge since way back in August.

How is that in any way comparable, to anything?

DaveCliftonAP

OP, you have serious issues with women.

elperello

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

You want a link to the initial proposal?

https://www.thejournal.ie/accomodation-to-be-set-up-for-victims-of-sexual-exploitation-living-in-direct-provision-5171918-Aug2020/

I thought this was common knowledge since way back in August.

Thanks again.

Missed that in August, holiday time and all.

Interesting story.

banie01

whippet wrote: »

Where is the laundries mentioned ... the abuse and exploitation mentioned .. or are you just opposed to the idea and decide the best way to get people to agree with your outrage is to invent a link between this and an abhorrent time in our recent history ?

If hookers are harder to access, LG's hobby rapidly becomes more expensive.
Tis more an economic objection on his part, than actually giving a shít about anyone, trafficked or not

blanch152

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

Said emotionally unstable women want to punish other women who they consider to be of low moral fiber.

They did this successfully in the 18/1900's where they enslaved, then murdered manies a woman, child, baby etc - put them in mass graves.


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How do emotionally unstable women live for over 200 years, just asking for a friend?

osarusan

This:

AN ACCOMMODATION UNIT for women living in Direct Provision who have suffered sexual exploitation is to be set up, the Department of Justice & Equality has confirmed

does not equate in any way to this:

Helen McEntee wants to reinstate the Magdalene Laundries

P!ss off with that shyte OP.

Ten of Swords

Fair warning, if you start posting Helen McEntee's wedding pictures again I will not be pleased. Its creepy and I'll ban you

bo0li5eumx12kp

osarusan wrote: »

This:

does not equate in any way to this:

P!ss off with that shyte OP.

The hell it doesn't.

The point is, she can't just come out and SAY, "ummm, yeah, let's reinstate those institutions of torture".

Wouldn't reflect well on her or her department.

She's got beef with sex workers (like most women and a large societal demographic do), plain and simple.

Magdalene Laundries was the "Sisters of Mercy".

Ruhama are the "Sisters of Mercy".

Same shit, different day.

bo0li5eumx12kp

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Fair warning, if you start posting Helen McEntee's wedding pictures again I will not be pleased. Its creepy and I'll ban you

Yeah, it was intended to be a satire (hence the photoshopped troll faces on her bridesmaids) but I got that message when you deleted my last thread dammit.

bo0li5eumx12kp

blanch152 wrote: »

How do emotionally unstable women live for over 200 years, just asking for a friend?

Transgenerational epigenetic heritability.

osarusan

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

Same shit, different day.

This describes your threads.

JohnnyFlash

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

Yeah, it was intended to be a satire (hence the photoshopped troll faces on her bridesmaids) but I got that message when you deleted my last thread dammit.

What’s satirical about that? You seem to have a thing about staring threads involving female ministers which are nonsensical and include a picture of them.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114624372

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114622104


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114646534

Creepy behaviour tbh, dude.

skooterblue2

The nuns are all dead and the orders wound down, I think all the reparations have been paid by the orders and the Government. Thanks be to god those days are behind us.

suicide_circus

Youre not well, pal

bo0li5eumx12kp

skooterblue2 wrote: »

The nuns are all dead and the orders wound down, I think all the reparations have been paid by the orders and the Government. Thanks be to god those days are behind us.

Pfff, keep your head in the sand mate.

Ruhama successfully campaigned for criminalization of sex purchase in 2017, rendering a 100%+ increase in incidences of violent crimes against working women (due to fear of reporting, by way of of that very law - intended to "protect them").

The nuns live on, same mentality, different title.

But you just tell yourself whatever you need to maintain your state of blissful ignorance.

bo0li5eumx12kp

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

What’s satirical about that? You seem to have a thing about staring threads involving female ministers which are nonsensical and include a picture of them.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114624372

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114622104


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114646534

Creepy behaviour tbh, dude.

Firstly - the first two were twitter links.

Somehow I overlooked shooping the troll face on her husband in the third one.

I must have been tight for time that evening.

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It's politics mate.

What can I say??

skooterblue2

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

Ruhama successfully campaigned for criminalization of sex purchase in 2017, rendering a 100%+ increase in incidences of violent crimes against working women (due to fear of reporting, by way of of that very law - intended to "protect them").

The only person who cares about that law are the men buying sex. You arent one of them sad saps, are you?

banie01

skooterblue2 wrote: »

The only person who cares about that law are the men buying sex. You arent one of them sad saps, are you?

You clearly aren't familiar with LG's hobby then

baldbear

Fair play to Helen McEntee helping vulnerable women.

bo0li5eumx12kp

baldbear wrote: »

Fair play to Helen McEntee helping vulnerable women.

Maybe her hearts in the right place?

But putting human traffic victims under the care of human traffickers is a faux pas in my book.

skooterblue2

banie01 wrote: »

You clearly aren't familiar with LG's hobby then

Well I wasnt but I am now!!!
Look after yourself LG, I will get you something for the guy who has everything for Christmas.....penicillin.

bo0li5eumx12kp

skooterblue2 wrote: »

The only person who cares about that law are the men buying sex. You arent one of them sad saps, are you?

Pffff, homie, cuz, broseph, dude......

Let me tell you something.

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All men buy it.

It's only the currency that varies.

skooterblue2

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

Pffff, homie, cuz, broseph, dude......

Let me tell you something.

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All men buy it.

It's only the currency that varies.

(*Shudders*)

bo0li5eumx12kp

banie01 wrote: »

You clearly aren't familiar with LG's hobby then

What's my horse in this race?

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Hypocrisy.

See, I guess maybe I'm an oddity like that.

All my life, I never had issue with victimization, never with abuse, never with bullies even.

But those hypocrites - we've gone to battle many times.

It's hypocrisy that oppresses a valuable societal trade like sex work, no other reason.

But I recognize the value of this trade in that, when it gains traction, it in itself will be the one to turn the tables and oppress hypocrisy.

I supply them weapons, because their enemies are my enemies.

banie01

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

What's my horse in this race?

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I supply them weapons, because their enemies are my enemies.

I think you may be riding the horse, whilst wrapped in tinfoil!
Those poor girls need a white knight don't they buddy? Instead they get you.

Riding in to save them, to lift their profession and their vocation out of the control of others.
Not just to decriminalise sex work, but to wrap society's caring arms around those who partake in their services.

Perhaps we should go down the Dutch route? Even going so far as to provide a state allowance to ensure some disabled or otherwise single folk get their hole once in a while?

Pity it's you trying to push this agenda.
A red Piller, who has some fairly rampant misogyny issues as it blows any actual credibility away from your thesis.

Your primary concern isn't the safety and welfare of sex workers.
It's access and price control.

Forgive me if I feel that you are more than a little full of shít and that your hyperbole around this issue is in poor taste.

As for your earlier everyone pays for it, it's just the currency that differs comment?
If you truly believe that all relationships can be reduced to transactions?
You are going to have a fairly lonely existence, and it's one I probably wouldn't wish upon even an enemy.

bo0li5eumx12kp

banie01 wrote: »

As for your earlier everyone pays for it, it's just the currency that differs comment?
If you truly believe that all relationships can be reduced to transactions?
You are going to have a fairly lonely existence, and it's one I probably wouldn't wish upon even an enemy.

lol - I guess we're different like that.

But no the overarching issue to address was the hypocrisy of a state funded organisation that's continuing to be endorsed under the watchful eye of hard working, well meaning, but slightly naive minister for justice.

endacl

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

lol - I guess we're different like that.

But no the overarching issue to address was the hypocrisy of a state funded organisation that's continuing to be endorsed under the watchful eye of hard working, well meaning, but slightly naive minister for justice.

Not in character any more? Will you be posting like a grownup from now on? Fair play.

hurikane

Read a couple of posts, couldn’t make sense of anything. Checked who is the OP, it all makes sense now.

skooterblue2

Maggie Brief Listener wrote: »

It's hypocrisy that oppresses a valuable societal trade like sex work, no other reason.

But I recognize the value of this trade in that, when it gains traction, it in itself will be the one to turn the tables and oppress hypocrisy.

Well you got me surrounded there General Cluster. There was me thinking poor trafficked women were being traded and drugged by pimps when really they were being empowered and doing valuable societal trades. Guess you can tell your sons that Plumbing and Electrical work is being displaced by the worlds oldest profession.

Donald Trump

Will they be doing good deals? Will there be a flat rate per item or will it be on weight or volume?

How about whites vs. coloureds?

Ten of Swords

Something something something sex trade :rolleyes:

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