Why Internet radio Isn't Always Good.

Too many potential issues which is why I'm not a fan of closing so many Medium Wave or LW stations, 1 Transmitter can cover a whole Island like Ireland and into the U.K and beyond as we've seen with out LW 252 transmitter which for some time has been running at much reduced power or a single SW transmitter can cover most of the planet and Billions of People.

Another positive to me is the ability to listen to lots of stations without reliance on the internet.

https://swling.com/blog/2020/11/the-reciva-internet-radio-station-aggregator-closing-down/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheSwlingPost+%28The+SWLing+Post%29

https://swling.com/blog/2020/11/grace-digital-internet-radios-made-between-2007-and-2017-will-stop-working/

rogue-entity

Internet Radio always promises to offer the kind of choice that our regulators deny us. Trouble is, the current unicast technology means internet streaming doesn't scale as the number of listeners increases. Devices like the Amazon Echo and equivalents from Google, apps from stations and directories like TuneIn, make it easier to access (at least local) streaming services but they'll always be a niche.

rogue-entity

rogue-entity wrote: »

Internet Radio always promises to offer the kind of choice that our regulators deny us. Trouble is, the current unicast technology means internet streaming doesn't scale as the number of listeners increases. Devices like the Amazon Echo and equivalents from Google, apps from stations and directories like TuneIn, make it easier to access (at least local) streaming services but they'll always be a niche.

The trouble with apps is that, at least for the U.K most stations outside the U.K have been blocked by a recent ridiculous court ruling. I'm sure other countries will follow suit, whatever the U.K does, Ireland isn't too far behind.

https://radiotoday.co.uk/2020/09/international-radio-stations-now-restricted-on-tunein/

This doesn't just effect tune in.

It's one reason why I do not think radio stations should shut down transmitters capable of transmitting their radio material to the far and beyond and why more should invest in Shortwave, yeah laugh all you want but you can't block a MW/LW or SW station so easy.

Declan A Walsh

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The trouble with apps is that, at least for the U.K most stations outside the U.K have been blocked by a recent ridiculous court ruling. I'm sure other countries will follow suit, whatever the U.K does, Ireland isn't too far behind.

https://radiotoday.co.uk/2020/09/international-radio-stations-now-restricted-on-tunein/

This doesn't just effect tune in.

It's one reason why I do not think radio stations should shut down transmitters capable of transmitting their radio material to the far and beyond and why more should invest in Shortwave, yeah laugh all you want but you can't block a MW/LW or SW station so easy.

The radio garden app is one platform which has stations from all around the world, including the UK. A lot of them are internet only stations. No blockage using that app...in Ireland anyway.

end of the road

the tunein case is a problem but the disruption caused by it will likely be temporary, more directories will pop up and adapt themselves so that similar cases will be ineffective.
there have been serious threats to internet radio before, 2002, 2007, 2016, mainly applies to the US granted but they have all been stopped, not without some casualties sadly but the technology is still here and going nowhere fast.
realistically there isn't much choice but for stations to switch off their am transmitters as the listenership has moved away and the technology is slowly becoming obsolete. a pitty actually but it is what it is . there will no doubt be enthusiasts willing to keep the bands alive in some form (well probably not lw) but mw certainly and the odd sw bit.

Declan A Walsh

end of the road wrote: »

the tunein case is a problem but the disruption caused by it will likely be temporary, more directories will pop up and adapt themselves so that similar cases will be ineffective.
there have been serious threats to internet radio before, 2002, 2007, 2016, mainly applies to the US granted but they have all been stopped, not without some casualties sadly but the technology is still here and going nowhere fast.
realistically there isn't much choice but for stations to switch off their am transmitters as the listenership has moved away and the technology is slowly becoming obsolete. a pitty actually but it is what it is . there will no doubt be enthusiasts willing to keep the bands alive in some form (well probably not lw) but mw certainly and the odd sw bit.

Such as Dublin pirate Energy (Power) AM!

Declan A Walsh

Declan A Walsh wrote: »

The radio garden app is one platform which has stations from all around the world, including the UK. A lot of them are internet only stations. No blockage using that app...in Ireland anyway.

That's the thing, in Ireland and most places outside the U.K and North Korea lol.

If you live in the U.K they're all blocked.

You can bypass this with a vpn but ffs, not if you have an internet radio and your router doesn't support vpn but lots of VPN IPs these days are being blocked.

end of the road

end of the road wrote: »

the tunein case is a problem but the disruption caused by it will likely be temporary, more directories will pop up and adapt themselves so that similar cases will be ineffective.
there have been serious threats to internet radio before, 2002, 2007, 2016, mainly applies to the US granted but they have all been stopped, not without some casualties sadly but the technology is still here and going nowhere fast.
realistically there isn't much choice but for stations to switch off their am transmitters as the listenership has moved away and the technology is slowly becoming obsolete. a pitty actually but it is what it is . there will no doubt be enthusiasts willing to keep the bands alive in some form (well probably not lw) but mw certainly and the odd sw bit.

The problem is that someone invests in an internet radio, some of them not cheap, promised DAB, it never materialised, just some junk RTE stations, No investment in DAB+ Ireland still stuck in the days predating even MP3 with their MP2 tech invented in 1985 ffs.

You can mock and joke other analogue platforms but at least they're simple to use, need no 3rd party service or apps and can use radios on battery that last weeks or months from a battery and can't have their stations disrupted.

This could be the 2nd time I've had my internet radio service disrupted the last time I had to register with a company which stored all my stations, then they went bust, had to do it all again, this time the next service might not be compatible with my radio that's only a few years old ffs, if this happens that I can't use another 3rd party company I'll have to enter all the stations manually entering the ip and port, a lot more hassle than simply tuning a dial. technology my arse

Simple effective analogue radio and can listen to foreign stations simply also with just a decent antenna.

end of the road

Declan A Walsh wrote: »

Such as Dublin pirate Energy (Power) AM!

exactly.

jjjulio

Don't have an Internet Radio but have used these apps for ages and they've worked fine and still do for UK - BBC, LBC, JazzFM & Spanish/French news and jazz stations. They record fine, too. I've heard people talk about geographical restrictions for the BBC but never encountered it. Occasional had issues with BBC iPlayer transmission of some programmes but after long investigation turned out to be use of HLS protocol for streaming, not Dash protocol though I don't know if that was BBC issue or app or my phone.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ilv.vradio&hl=en_US&gl=US
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.audials&hl=en_US&gl=US
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.streema.simpleradio&hl=en_US&gl=US

BBC iPlayer has now changed to https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds which works just fine. Both the apps above & BBC Sounds have always been fine on computer, too.

Not everyone wants to be tied to an app or laptop etc to listen to basic radio FFS that's the idea of wanting a box in the kitchen or sitting room that has the radio and the DAB ( that doesn't work ) and internet radio.

Still useless if you have an internet radio that 3rd party company ceases to exist which is required to load all the stations without having to enter ip and port manually.