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Cattle Tags

  • 02-11-2020 10:28am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭


    Near that time of the year again.
    Whats the consensus on tag suppliers now that were a few years in.
    Looking at
    - Application
    - sample (easy to do and empty samples)
    - longevity (do they loose many)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭jfh


    satstheway wrote: »
    Near that time of the year again.
    Whats the consensus on tag suppliers now that were a few years in.
    Looking at
    - Application
    - sample (easy to do and empty samples)
    - longevity (do they loose many)

    Moved to cormac two years ago, tired of replacing mullinhone tags,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    satstheway wrote: »
    Near that time of the year again.
    Whats the consensus on tag suppliers now that were a few years in.
    Looking at
    - Application
    - sample (easy to do and empty samples)
    - longevity (do they loose many)

    Cormac all day long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    Cormac all day long

    Cormac all year long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Cormac all year long

    I also find the tags go into the ear a lot easier and there is the one system for both tags whereas with mullinahone you have to take out the pin in the tagger for doing one of the tags (think it’s the sample tag - at least that’s the way it was a few years ago when I was using them)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭leex


    How do the cormac tags rate for capturing bvd samples? Do ye have any blanks?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    leex wrote: »
    How do the cormac tags rate for capturing bvd samples? Do ye have any blanks?

    This was our first year using Cormac tags (always Mullinahone) and I captured all BVD samples even though I was trying to get used to the tagger. They are far more robust design.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    leex wrote: »
    How do the cormac tags rate for capturing bvd samples? Do ye have any blanks?

    I had one blank in total while using the Mullinahone tags but I'm getting a good few every year with Cormac.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    I had one blank in total while using the Mullinahone tags but I'm getting a good few every year with Cormac.

    I don’t ever remember having hardly any blank mullinahone. Have had 2 in 3 years with Cormac (from 20 calves per year).

    Still a hell of lot easier re-tag the odd calf as opposed to 7 or 8 mullinahone tags every year across the full herd. Not to mention one time I sent a cow to the factory. There happened to be about 5 lads in the yard when the lad came to collect her. Anyways an hour later got call that the cow was on the way home as she had no tag in her. Hard to believe that between myself and the haulier and the other 5 fellas that none of us copped the tags.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Dunedin wrote: »
    I don’t ever remember having hardly any blank mullinahone. Have had 2 in 3 years with Cormac (from 20 calves per year).

    Still a hell of lot easier re-tag the odd calf as opposed to 7 or 8 mullinahone tags every year across the full herd. Not to mention one time I sent a cow to the factory. There happened to be about 5 lads in the yard when the lad came to collect her. Anyways an hour later got call that the cow was on the way home as she had no tag in her. Hard to believe that between myself and the haulier and the other 5 fellas that none of us copped the tags.

    I wouldn't disagree with that, easier to retag a calf than having to round up a cow and into the crush to retag her. What I lose in retesting calves, I gain back and more in having the cows tags stay intact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭satstheway


    So you are having less retags with cormac.
    Never had an empty sample here but the cows are losing tags at a rate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Tortured here with cows losing tags, with mullinahone a long time now, was considering moving to cormac but reports of BVD blanks put me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    Tortured here with cows losing tags, with mullinahone a long time now, was considering moving to cormac but reports of BVD blanks put me off.

    I would say make the move this year and make up your own mind re the empties. I'm amazed to hear people having blanks with Cormac as I've never had a problem with them. If your tagging them any way correctly, at the very worst you'll have a couple to retest so worth trying them for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    I would say make the move this year and make up your own mind re the empties. I'm amazed to hear people having blanks with Cormac as I've never had a problem with them. If your tagging them any way correctly, at the very worst you'll have a couple to retest so worth trying them for yourself.

    Except for haveing to buy taggers expecially. Better if you could borrow taggers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    had 1 empty with Cormac and it was my own fault , just make sure the cutting disc is on the tag before you commence tagging , they usually enclose a spare 1 or 2 with each batch

    no fukacting trying to get the sample into the capsule and then closing it , it's ready to post from the tagger , the samples are much smaller and lighter for posting , they sell a wrist band for holding the samples and well wothwhile getting 1 'cos if it falls into a straw bedded floor , you'll have some trouble finding it

    the tags are lighter and more flexible so don't drag down a new born calf's ears as much, and large numbers on the rear are easier to read from behind the animal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭satstheway


    Just finished my order and changed to Cormac. Had to get a restriction lifted on how many I could order to get my tagger free, One call sorted that. I never knew they had a restriction based on last 3 years EU thing apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    satstheway wrote: »
    Just finished my order and changed to Cormac. Had to get a restriction lifted on how many I could order to get my tagger free, One call sorted that. I never knew they had a restriction based on last 3 years EU thing apparently.

    yeah , think it's + 20 or 25% , of waht your used


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    satstheway wrote: »
    Just finished my order and changed to Cormac. Had to get a restriction lifted on how many I could order to get my tagger free, One call sorted that. I never knew they had a restriction based on last 3 years EU thing apparently.

    I think I may have posted it in the chitchat thread but Cormac are offering 5 free tags with every order until the 15th of this month as a thank you to customers after winning some business award so that might make it a bit easier on pockets as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Switched to cormac 3 years ago but will reserve judgement on how long the tags last as it's the cows lose tags as opposed to young stock so will see. On the BVD tag front have found they are way better, have had very few empties compared to mulinahone and much easier job as well. Sample bottles are small so can fit a good few into the envelope for the post but they are easy lost also if dropped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭Micey.ie


    I think I may have posted it in the chitchat thread but Cormac are offering 5 free tags with every order until the 15th of this month as a thank you to customers after winning some business award so that might make it a bit easier on pockets as well.

    Minimum order is 50 tags to get the 5 free tagsðŸ˜


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Micey.ie wrote: »
    Minimum order is 50 tags to get the 5 free tagsðŸ˜

    There had to be a catch, didn't there:(

    Apologies, I was just going on the tweet they sent out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭Micey.ie


    There had to be a catch, didn't there:(

    Apologies, I was just going on the tweet they sent out.

    It was same with the free taggers had to order 50 tags,I ordered 80 tags off them for 3 different herd and they wouldn’t give me free taggers-50 tags had to be from same Herd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Fed up with calves tearing out their tags and ruining their ears.
    Going to get the ones with the smaller flags next year and see if they makes any difference.
    We buy in and rear a good few calves every year and we never have a problem with them tearing out tags. Do you have sheep wire in the paddocks/fields where the calves are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Base price wrote: »
    We buy in and rear a good few calves every year and we never have a problem with them tearing out tags. Do you have sheep wire in the paddocks/fields where the calves are.

    What she said

    I'd be looking at what pulling the tags and rectify that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,328 ✭✭✭tanko


    Has anyone tried Datamars tags or know anything about them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    orm0nd wrote: »
    had 1 empty with Cormac and it was my own fault , just make sure the cutting disc is on the tag before you commence tagging , they usually enclose a spare 1 or 2 with each batch

    no fukacting trying to get the sample into the capsule and then closing it , it's ready to post from the tagger , the samples are much smaller and lighter for posting , they sell a wrist band for holding the samples and well wothwhile getting 1 'cos if it falls into a straw bedded floor , you'll have some trouble finding it

    the tags are lighter and more flexible so don't drag down a new born calf's ears as much, and large numbers on the rear are easier to read from behind the animal

    I agree that it has always been a nuisance getting the sample into to Mullinahone capsule.
    Oddly, I received Email from Mullinahone on Sunday reminding me to order Tags and one of their selling points is that they have a New User Friendly BVD Tube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,332 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I stayed with mullinahone. In fairness I lost 2 calf tags this year out of 180. One was in sheep wire and the other the young lad pulled the tag through the ear when tagging. Had 2 empties. They are cheaper than cormac and have improved in quality alot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I stayed with mullinahone. In fairness I lost 2 calf tags this year out of 180. One was in sheep wire and the other the young lad pulled the tag through the ear when tagging. Had 2 empties. They are cheaper than cormac and have improved in quality alot.

    I stayed with them too. And I agree they have def improved...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I stayed with mullinahone. In fairness I lost 2 calf tags this year out of 180. One was in sheep wire and the other the young lad pulled the tag through the ear when tagging. Had 2 empties. They are cheaper than cormac and have improved in quality alot.
    They had to up their game when the competition arrived or they would be out of the tag business altogether. They had the entire market to themselves, no advertising required, but they became too lax with there standards a few years back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,332 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    They had to up their game when the competition arrived or they would be out of the tag business altogether. They had the entire market to themselves, no advertising required, but they became too lax with there standards a few years back.

    Agreed , a bit of competition never did anyone any harm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭visatorro


    whelan2 wrote:
    Agreed , a bit of competition never did anyone any harm.


    Stayed with eurotags aswell . Replacement tags is very fast. Ordered calf tags. 10-12 working days. Cormac is 5-7 apparently. 21 eur for applicator.
    I just have 2 taggers here, one for each tag. Bvds seem better in last few years. But iv made a conscious effort not to hold them upside-down! Cormac have a friendly social media presence which helps the brand aswell. Fair play to them. But also fair play to eurotags because they seem to have upped their game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭satstheway


    I agree that it has always been a nuisance getting the sample into to Mullinahone capsule.
    Oddly, I received Email from Mullinahone on Sunday reminding me to order Tags and one of their selling points is that they have a New User Friendly BVD Tube.

    Yea I got the email.
    Selling points are new BVD tube. Free face mask and the main point is that they have not raised their price since 2016. (Wonder why)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,328 ✭✭✭tanko


    Mullinahone weren't too bothered about improving their rubbish tags and customer service when they had a monopoly on tag supply even though it was obvious where the weakness was in the tags.
    I don't see why they are allowed to charge for replacement tags either, if they were properly made very few of them would fall out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    tanko wrote: »
    Mullinahone weren't too bothered about improving their rubbish tags and customer service when they had a monopoly on tag supply even though it was obvious where the weakness was in the tags.
    I don't see why they are allowed to charge for replacement tags either, if they were properly made very few of them would fall out.

    They had a terrible attitude towards their customers when they held the sole franchise

    money taken from credit card instantly and sometimes 6 weeks wait for delivery of calf tags ,

    remember ringing for replacement tags one time and was ordering sheep tags as well no way who they combine the postage , had to do 2 separate packages

    had a heap of bvd tags lost one year and they replaced them foc , had some tags left over to the following season , same story losses again and they wouldnt' replace these even though they were the same batch

    My complaint was logged on file as had been dealt with by the manager eventhough I never heard a word from him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭farmersfriend


    Delighted with the cormac tags here, easier to read, so quick to send a replacement tag, and friendly people too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    orm0nd wrote: »
    They had a terrible attitude towards their customers when they held the sole franchise

    money taken from credit card instantly and sometimes 6 weeks wait for delivery of calf tags ,

    remember ringing for replacement tags one time and was ordering sheep tags as well no way who they combine the postage , had to do 2 separate packages

    had a heap of bvd tags lost one year and they replaced them foc , had some tags left over to the following season , same story losses again and they wouldnt' replace these even though they were the same batch

    My complaint was logged on file as had been dealt with by the manager eventhough I never heard a word from him.

    Still separate postage for replacements and new tags, last week, for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    Still separate postage for replacements and new tags, last week, for me.

    Same for me in September. I told them to keep them, Ordered from Cornac without any of that messing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    Mullinahone tags are rubbish, losses, pay again , aggravation, never again


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