Ryanair cancelling a lot of routes over winter

Inquitus

As we are all aware Shannon and Cork have been dumped for the winter by Ryanair, they have also dumped a lot of other routes.

One Example:

Carcassonne has been cancelled from Dublin, Stansted, Luton, Manchester, East Midlands and Edinburgh. There are plenty more spread out all over their route map.

Noxegon

All flights to Armenia have disappeared, too. I suspect the current political situation there has a lot to do with that decision.

theguzman

Where did Ryanair fly to Armenia from, Ukraine or somewhere?

EICVD

Noxegon wrote: »

All flights to Armenia have disappeared, too. I suspect the current political situation there has a lot to do with that decision.

& Georgia

IngazZagni

Bari, Bordeaux, Bournemouth, Charleroi, Eindhoven, Kyiv, Southend, Murcia, Nantes, Nice, Memmingen are just some examples I noticed at a glance cancelled this winter vs last winter.

Network wide they say they are operating a 40% winter schedule vs 2019 but at Dublin it looks more like 20% such is the complete butchering of frequencies and it's only going to get worse.

Ryanair flights from Dublin to Birmingham, down to 5 a week as opposed to 4 or 5 a day, 7 days a week.

theguzman

Deleted User wrote: »

Ryanair flights from Dublin to Birmingham, down to 5 a week as opposed to 4 or 5 a day, 7 days a week.

wow, there was up to 6-8 flights per day if you counted Aer Lingus also, most were chock-abloc between Fridays and Mondays often due to soccer games in the Premier League as BHX is close for several teams.

Jack1985

I wonder post pandemic; will we see FR growing more at regional airports like the model was focused on during the early years. Clearly all airports will be offering serious incentives to get traffic back, but no more so than regional airports who have it all to lose.

Keeping costs low, new aircraft with cheaper than ever operating costs it'll be the perfect recipe for O'Leary and his shareholders.

crushproof

Not surprised but disappointed to see them drop the more niche routes. I had planned on using them this year for a trip over to Armenia and possibly Jordan but of course the pandemic changed all that.

I imagine Wizzair will increase their share of the market in that part of the world. They continue to expand in Eastern Europe and beyond, very impressive growth.

Just noticed a massive drop in the number of flights to/from the UK at Christmas as well.

faceman

Alicante is down to 2 days a week from Dublin. It’s usually 7 days a week all year round.

Incidentally Ryanair have launched some domestic routes internally in Spain to much fanfare

Tenzor07

Start of November I can see Ryanair slashing daily services from say 7 per week to 2 flights per week.... Just not sustainable to run aircraft a 1/3 or less full, cheaper to park them up for the winter and hope to come out the other end....
...Airport over the weekend was like a Ghost Town, deserted whereas this time last year it would have been mental with people getting away for the Bank holiday..

Padraig Mor

Ryanair have actually cancelled ALL services from Cork for a period of approx a month from mid November - they've even dropped Stansted!

Acosta

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Ryanair have actually cancelled ALL services from Cork for a period of approx a month from mid November - they've even dropped Stansted!

Shannon and Knock too apparently. That will leave no passenger flights out of both.

Tenzor07

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Ryanair have actually cancelled ALL services from Cork for a period of approx a month from mid November - they've even dropped Stansted!

Acosta wrote: »

Shannon and Knock too apparently. That will leave no passenger flights out of both.

No surprises, as I said above, no operator can afford to run empty planes..

Nothing will change until there's rapid testing at the airports and we get harmonised travel systems in place across the EU..

Ryanair’s Dublin/Birmingham route now down to 4 a week.

DulchieLaois

And yet their share price is still very high which is baffling

markpb

DulchieLaois wrote: »

And yet their share price is still very high which is baffling

I guess shareholders expect things will recover in 2021 or 2022 and hope that Ryanair have enough funds and can cut enough costs to last that long. If they can, they’re likely to do well as people flock to catch up on all the holidays they missed out on and to see all the family and friends they haven’t seen in a year. If some of their competition doesn’t make it, that makes things all the better for Ryanair.

Chris_5339762

Yeah, Ryanair are one of the few that will get through this relatively unscathed I think.

dfx-

theguzman wrote: »

wow, there was up to 6-8 flights per day if you counted Aer Lingus also, most were chock-abloc between Fridays and Mondays often due to soccer games in the Premier League as BHX is close for several teams.

72 flights a week, 2nd in frequency to Amsterdam from BHX. I think it was top five (top ten?) in terms of passengers from or to Dublin.

It was operating still half full in July.

StackSteevens

In (faint) praise of Ryanair.

I was booked to fly Cork - Lanzarote (return) in Jan/Feb 2021. Obviously the flights are gone. So they emailed me on the 19th October inviting me to apply for a credit note or full refund. I opted for the full refund and it arrived in my bank account last night.

Not a bad performance, considering that, presumably RYR were processing refunds for every cancelled winter flight from Cork and Shannon during the past fortnight.

Tenzor07

StackSteevens wrote: »

In (faint) praise of Ryanair.
I was booked to fly Cork - Lanzarote (return) in Jan/Feb 2021. Obviously the flights are gone. So they emailed me on the 19th October inviting me to apply for a credit note or full refund. I opted for the full refund and it arrived in my bank account last night.
Not a bad performance, considering that, presumably RYR were processing refunds for every cancelled winter flight from Cork and Shannon during the past fortnight.

Ryanair get a lot of flack over refunds, being one of Europes biggest carriers I can only imagine that the level of refunds due to covid cancellations must be higher than many other airlines combined!

If people think getting refunds of RA is difficult, try Turkish Airlines, Sky Up!, and Pegasus!

Idbatterim

assuming ryanair hope some people will fly from dublin and make routes being served from here more viable...

billie1b

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Yeah, Ryanair are one of the few that will get through this relatively unscathed I think.

Apart from the staff, the majority of Dublin staff (around 75%) have been given unpaid leave for a minimum of 5 months.

StackSteevens

billie1b wrote: »

Apart from the staff, the majority of Dublin staff (around 75%) have been given unpaid leave for a minimum of 5 months.

Would they have preferred to have been made redundant?

billie1b

StackSteevens wrote: »

Would they have preferred to have been made redundant?

Well considering they offered people to apply for redundancy and then told the staff they ‘don’t deserve it as they’ve done nothing for Ryanair to deserve redundancies’ (a lot of staff working there for 15 years minimum) I think a lot of staff would have preferred it as at least they would have some type of payment for the next few months instead of nothing.

Jack1985

StackSteevens wrote: »

Would they have preferred to have been made redundant?

Get a grip. Aviation workers are suffering, the measures taken by airlines to survive mean the frontline will bear the brunt of cuts.

No airline get's through this ''unscathed''.

StackSteevens

billie1b wrote: »

Well considering they offered people to apply for redundancy and then told the staff they ‘don’t deserve it as they’ve done nothing for Ryanair to deserve redundancies’ (a lot of staff working there for 15 years minimum) I think a lot of staff would have preferred it as at least they would have some type of payment for the next few months instead of nothing.

I assume that you can link me to the document in which that remarkable statement was made?

StackSteevens

Jack1985 wrote: »

Get a grip. Aviation workers are suffering, the measures taken by airlines to survive mean the frontline will bear the brunt of cuts.

No airline get's through this ''unscathed''.

My grip is perfect, thanks.

And I didn't make the foolish claim to which you responded in your third sentence.

billie1b

StackSteevens wrote: »

I assume that you can link me to the document in which that remarkable statement was made?

Why would I post a link? Why would it be even on the internet? You want me to send you all my internal memos from them from work? Why would I need to lie about it? What would I gain?

StackSteevens

billie1b wrote: »

Why would I post a link? Why would it be even on the internet? You want me to send you all my internal memos from them from work? Why would I need to lie about it? What would I gain?

In summary, you can't. That's all I wanted to know, thanks.

markpb

billie1b wrote: »

Why would I post a link? Why would it be even on the internet? You want me to send you all my internal memos from them from work? Why would I need to lie about it? What would I gain?

You are be a credible poster here but I assume you can still understand why most people treat what they read on the internet with a healthy dose of scepticism. Especially when it comes to an emotive statement like that. Isn’t it possible that someone other than you might invent or creatively twist a statement like that because they’re unhappy with their employers or management?

markpb

markpb wrote: »

You are be a credible poster here but I assume you can still understand why most people treat what they read on the internet with a healthy dose of scepticism. Especially when it comes to an emotive statement like that. Isn’t it possible that someone other than you might invent or creatively twist a statement like that because they’re unhappy with their employers or management?

I'm sure he fully understands. But you need to understand that not everything is online and not everything is sharable.

The forum has gone to tatters because of the amount of people who shared valuable accurate information no longer bother because clowns only believe something if there is a link. God forbid taking someone's word for it.

markpb

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm sure he fully understands. But you need to understand that not everything is online and not everything is sharable.

If something as emotive as that can’t be shared without proof, it might be better off not being shared. Otherwise it’s just an anecdote on the internet, might be true, it might be fake, it might be somewhere in between.

KnicksInSix

We have flights booked for DUB-VRN for 19/12/2020. At this stage do you think it is likely they may be cancelled? Traveling home for Christmas to Northern Italy.

L1011

jenneyk19 wrote: »

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Curb Your Enthusiasm

Talguetler wrote: »

We have flights booked for DUB-VRN for 19/12/2020. At this stage do you think it is likely they may be cancelled? Traveling home for Christmas to Northern Italy.

It's possible. Verona isn't the most popular Italian route - but if all came to all they'll give you two weeks notice before cancelling and you can rebook for Milan/Rome (which are less likely to be cancelled, particularly coming up to Xmas)

Ryanair will generally give 2 weeks notice before cancelling flights as otherwise they have to pay out compensation under EU261.

Thats what they've done for the Cork / Shannon routes they're axing for the next month. They're still flying til the 13th Nov as they only announced cancellation at the end of Oct.

You'll get home don't worry!

markpb

markpb wrote: »

If something as emotive as that can’t be shared without proof, it might be better off not being shared. Otherwise it’s just an anecdote on the internet, might be true, it might be fake, it might be somewhere in between.

My point still stands. It is entirely up to the reader as to whether to believe/trust the information, that fact does not change even with a link. "Fake news" can be faked with actual articles, you do know that don't you ?

Acosta

Talguetler wrote: »

We have flights booked for DUB-VRN for 19/12/2020. At this stage do you think it is likely they may be cancelled? Traveling home for Christmas to Northern Italy.

I'd say you will be fine. I doubt they'll be cancelling flights around Christmas as compared to now those flights will probably be busy. I'd be more concerned if the flight was later this month or early December

My flights are cancelled. There doesn't appear to be any flights for sale between Frankfurt and Dublin until very close to Christmas with Lufthansa, Aer Lingus or Ryanair. Capacity is being decimated.
I honestly expected Ryanair would let my flight fly as a ghost flight. There must have been very few people booked at low fares for them to cancel the flight.
I'm expecting Aer Lingus to cancel my flight in the next few days but they are trying to fool me in to taking a voucher rather than a refund before announcing the cancellation.

KnicksInSix

Thanks CYE and Acosta for responding, I hope it will be ok. Haphaphap they did the same with our Aer Lingus flights to VRN which prompted me to book the Ryanair seats. I am going to South Tyrol so I have a lot of options for airports (MUC, BGY, VRN, MPX, LIN) but the train connection from Verona station is easier for us. I hope you can get sorted Haphaphap.

Anima

It seems that flights with Aerlingus are cancelled from 10th-15th Dec. I had a flight on 14th from Berlin -> Dublin. I saw another person on a Facebook group was going back 10-15th Dec, also cancelled. Seems a bit strange to do it so soon.

They'd better not make then available later after having cancelling them at the lower fare for which I paid and haven't yet been refunded.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

They'd better not make then available later after having cancelling them at the lower fare for which I paid and haven't yet been refunded.

Received my refund...twice for the same flight.

TPMP

Would anyone have any indication on when Ryanair are likely to announce their winter schedule? In particular I'm looking at their Shannon to Tenerife flight on Saturday's. Hoping the route will be continued.

Not sure if this is the correct place to ask. I put it in the Shannon thread in the Clare forum but didn't receive a reply. Thanks in advance.

Locker10a

TPMP wrote: »

Would anyone have any indication on when Ryanair are likely to announce their winter schedule? In particular I'm looking at their Shannon to Tenerife flight on Saturday's. Hoping the route will be continued.

Not sure if this is the correct place to ask. I put it in the Shannon thread in the Clare forum but didn't receive a reply. Thanks in advance.

Honestly I’d say nobody knows anything for sure yet not even the airlines themselves, it’s impossible to predict things at the moment

TPMP

Locker10a wrote: »

Honestly I’d say nobody knows anything for sure yet not even the airlines themselves, it’s impossible to predict things at the moment

Ok thanks, fingers crossed it won't be cut.