Micheal Martins boots are too big .

kerry cow

so micheal has got his day in power , got the steering wheel of the big bus , now its on its roof and the co pilot leo is concussed and has lost his focus and talking jibberish, but micheal is upbeat , not realising his **** up ,but proud that he was captain ireland and wearing the green Jersey.
problem is , micheals boots are over sized for him , big boots to fill , and no matter how long he has been waiting in the long corridor for power , its was all just a dream , his legacy is be written as a fail ,

confidence in this government is weaning ,
they have blood on their hands , people have contracted covid because of their bull**** , the high moral ground ,of we are in charge doctor , and it will be level 5 when the government decide ,
even though they were in contact with doctor before and after the recommendation , so its should have been no shock announcement ,
but it may have up set their budget reveal .

it needs level 5 not tomorrow but last week ,

blood on yer hands , how can you sleep .
shame on you boss .

nolivesmatter

Lockdown, no lockdown, he's f***ed no matter what he does.

Antares35

Sure look once he can run home and say "mammy mammy look at me they made me taoiseach" isn't that all he wanted. He doesn't care once he gets that gold star on his homework.

Mad_maxx

useless man

ThewhiteJesus

i'm no fan of his or fianna fail, but to be fair to him he didn't create the china virus.

Allinall

kerry cow wrote: »

so micheal has got his day in power , got the steering wheel of the big bus , now its on its roof and the co pilot leo is concussed and has lost his focus and talking jibberish, but micheal is upbeat , not realising his **** up ,but proud that he was captain ireland and wearing the green Jersey.
problem is , micheals boots are over sized for him , big boots to fill , and no matter how long he has been waiting in the long corridor for power , its was all just a dream , his legacy is be written as a fail ,

confidence in this government is weaning ,
they have blood on their hands , people have contracted covid because of their bull**** , the high moral ground ,of we are in charge doctor , and it will be level 5 when the government decide ,
even though they were in contact with doctor before and after the recommendation , so its should have been no shock announcement ,
but it may have up set their budget reveal .

it needs level 5 not tomorrow but last week ,

blood on yer hands , how can you sleep .
shame on you boss .

At least you're taking advantage of the fact you can still drink as much as you want at home.

What a load of rambling rubbish.

Zebra3

Wanted to be taoiseach so he wasn't the first FF leader not to be.

That's pretty much it.

Even his tánaiste thinks he's useless.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1224826375355367431?lang=en

dundalkfc10

Zebra3 wrote: »

Wanted to be taoiseach so he wasn't the first FF leader not to be.

That's pretty much it.

Even his tánaiste thinks he's useless.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1224826375355367431?lang=en

He can hardly talk considering he has done everything in his power since Day 1 of the Shambles of a Govt to undermine MM and cause problems.

dundalkfc10

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

He can hardly talk considering he has done everything in his power since Day 1 of the Shambles of a Govt to undermine MM and cause problems.

That's some statement out of someone you see ahem replying the shinners at every chance, unless I'm all a sudden mistaken

PhilOssophy

Leo needs to realise FG are part of this government too and make it work.
FG gave FF the ultimate hospital pass by giving them health and education, both of which were utterly screwed by them by the Covid crisis and cancelling the leaving cert.
They went into coalition together. FG have done nothing but pass the book and point fingers.
And I am absolutely no fan of FF.

EmmetSpiceland

Not a fan of FF, at all, but they do deserve some credit for “propping” up the government during the, initial, Brexit negotiations and for going into coalition during the Covid crisis.

Micheál Martin is one of few decent leaders FF have. Their lower “ranks” seem to be a mix of overly ambitious eejits and nobodies.

micks_address

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Leo needs to realise FG are part of this government too and make it work.
FG gave FF the ultimate hospital pass by giving them health and education, both of which were utterly screwed by them by the Covid crisis and cancelling the leaving cert.
They went into coalition together. FG have done nothing but pass the book and point fingers.
And I am absolutely no fan of FF.

i think the general consensus is that Leo, Simon and co put in a good show during covid.. its a tricky balance at the moment. Leo obviously has more xfactor charisma or however you term it than Micheal.. fair play to both of them for making it work.. its definitely an arranged marriage

walshb

nolivesmatter wrote: »

Lockdown, no lockdown, he's f***ed no matter what he does.

Never a truer word..

In today’s incessant hostile and combative and contrived world, people can never do right..

dundalkfc10

Deleted User wrote: »

That's some statement out of someone you see ahem replying the shinners at every chance, unless I'm all a sudden mistaken

So he hasnt been causing issues in Govt?

The reason SD and MM never told him about their meetings with NHEPT is because they couldnt trust him not to run his mouth off before they decided anything.
Less than 24 hours after NHEPTs advice, Leo is on tele saying NHEPT didnt really consider what they were saying, 7 days later he had to backtrack.

MM got a lot of respect back by standing upto him during week, Leo went off on the idea of a "circuit break" (something he talked down a few days previous) only for MM to come out and say thats not been talked about.

JasonStatham

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

i'm no fan of his or fianna fail, but to be fair to him he didn't create the china virus.

Hi Donald.

Floppybits

FF were never ready for government, they didn't have the leader they needed, Martin is to wishy washy, always was and has been and the definitely did not have the talent that would inspire confidence. How they got the number of seats they did is beyond me. FG in fairness have used Martins desperation to be Taoiseach against them and have given them a few hospital passes and walked away laughing. If Martin wasn't as desperate as he was to get into the Taoiseachs seat, they could have left FG with one of health or education and left FG to clean up the mess that they created with their mishandling of these departments especially education.

All FF have done is given FG especially Varadkar and Harris a platform to undercut the government at every opportunity, you have Varadkar doing it in the media and Harris doing on social media. In fairness it just seems to be those 2, Coveney and Donahue seem to be getting on with their briefs and only seem to discuss those briefs with the media but Varadkar and Harris seem to think they are a ministers for everything.

kerry cow

you can add SD to the too big boots to fill aswell . he is totally out of his depth ,
Simon was a drift too but performed a stunner during covid , and I fairness to FG they took the advise of the doctor , its a good man that does what he's told , and foolish to go against good advise ,

and by the way I don't drink alcohol and will say it again , this government has watched over lives been lost .
dirty hands .

Zebra3

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Leo needs to realise FG are part of this government too and make it work.
FG gave FF the ultimate hospital pass by giving them health and education, both of which were utterly screwed by them by the Covid crisis and cancelling the leaving cert.
They went into coalition together. FG have done nothing but pass the book and point fingers.
And I am absolutely no fan of FF.

FF won two more seats than FG so it wasn't exactly like FG could force FF to take health and education.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

That's some statement out of someone you see ahem replying the shinners at every chance, unless I'm all a sudden mistaken

To be fair, the Shinners are in opposition, they're supposed to be critiques of the government.

Leo is Michaél Martin's coalition partner in govt.

Cartman78

Did anyone else think the thread title said boobs instead of boots???

Might have been a more interesting thread perhaps..

Zebra3

Cartman78 wrote: »

Did anyone else think the thread title said boobs instead of boots???

Might have been a more interesting thread perhaps..

Ah Jaysus, I am was about to have lunch.

:(:(

PhilOssophy

Zebra3 wrote: »

FF won two more seats than FG so it wasn't exactly like FG could force FF to take health and education.

Well FF were awfully stupid to take both, both were obvious hospital passes and he should have said you lads take 1 of these anyway!

L1011

I think Donnelly actually *wanted* Health, which is more than anyone else in the entire Dail did. Shortall may seem like she wants it but she wouldn't take it, that's for sure.

Colonel Claptrap

L1011 wrote: »

I think Donnelly actually *wanted* Health, which is more than anyone else in the entire Dail did. Shortall may seem like she wants it but she wouldn't take it, that's for sure.

After all the giving out he did over the years, he couldn't not take it.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

The people know that SF were shafted... political shapeshifters is all we have in office right now.

The people will not forget!

screamer

I think it’s not a case of what’s too big to be honest......

TheValeyard

He's sh1te at the speeches. At least Leo added a bit of Lord of the Rings or Terminator to it!

Kowerski

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

The people know that SF were shafted... political shapeshifters is all we have in office right now.

The people will not forget!

Think you need to have a quick listen: https://twitter.com/WWinters_/status/1276987044804415492

Jucifer

kerry cow wrote: »

so micheal has got his day in power , got the steering wheel of the big bus , now its on its roof and the co pilot leo is concussed and has lost his focus and talking jibberish, but micheal is upbeat , not realising his **** up ,but proud that he was captain ireland and wearing the green Jersey.
problem is , micheals boots are over sized for him , big boots to fill , and no matter how long he has been waiting in the long corridor for power , its was all just a dream , his legacy is be written as a fail ,

confidence in this government is weaning ,
they have blood on their hands , people have contracted covid because of their bull**** , the high moral ground ,of we are in charge doctor , and it will be level 5 when the government decide ,
even though they were in contact with doctor before and after the recommendation , so its should have been no shock announcement ,
but it may have up set their budget reveal .

it needs level 5 not tomorrow but last week ,

blood on yer hands , how can you sleep .
shame on you boss .

With a little bit of work that could be quite a catchy rap.

Finty Lemon

Martin is doing a good job in the circumstances, in his own quiet way.
He has populist spinner as Tanaiste, who has tried to wobble him at every turn but people should begin to see through that now. Early easing of restrictions has been a problem of Varakers making and the former leader has tried to mask it. This stands in contrast to the support MM provided to the minority govt in the early stages of lockdown.
MM lost 2 ministers of Ag early on but did.it make a difference to people on the ground? Not really. The new man has been making ground on big issues for his brief and thats what matters.
Norma Foley has been dignified and unshakable in a very difficult stint in Education. Donnelly is struggling for sure but remember Simon? And Louise OReilly is MIA lately
A reasonable budget has been delivered, even the serial whingers in the cheap seats in the Dail couldnt come with much. Pascal Donohoe schooled Doherty et al all week, a team player with maturity to boot unlike his party leader.
The covid plan is progressing well, it has been clear for a while that a November lockdown will be needed. The trick was to sway public opinion in that direction, which there certainly was no appetite for a month ago. If they had gone too early the lockdown would have been resisted. Hit 1000 cases and then make the call. Martin even has MLM calling for this by now. SFs 'confusion' line has worn thin, the public arent as thick as their membership. If you are confused Mary, just ask for help.
And before anyone mentions golf, that was a FG do after all. Keep it going Taoiseach, you have a mandate from the people.

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

To be fair, the Shinners are in opposition, they're supposed to be critiques of the government.

Leo is Michaél Martin's coalition partner in govt.

They're supposed to offer informed criticism, alternative views and options

Not pay to flood every possible online platform with pap while coming up with absolutely nothing of use in the oireachtas themselves

PhilOssophy

SF have been a laughing stock since the election. They made absolutely not 1 effort to form a government, hid behind the fact that they wouldn't form with FF and FG (which ruled out forming a government with anybody). It proved that they are purely a party of protest.
Even Mary Lou when MM ignored NPHET advice to move to level 5, had to hide behind "10 years of zero investment in the health service" as her only defence. As if she or her party would take on the public sector unions in the HSE which everybody with even 1 brain cell knows is the real problem in the service? And as for Louisa, since she was on Prime Time on a health matter and could only talk about renters, it said it all!

It is true that Donnelly couldn't not take it, but how they agreed to taking education when it was the obvious row coming up, I don't know.

HBC08

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Not a fan of FF, at all, but they do deserve some credit for “propping” up the government during the, initial, Brexit negotiations and for going into coalition during the Covid crisis.

Micheál Martin is one of few decent leaders FF have. Their lower “ranks” seem to be a mix of overly ambitious eejits and nobodies.

I think MM falls into the bracket of overly ambitious eejit and thats being generous.His absolute need to be Taoiseach at any cost blinded any political intelligence he may have had (I'm not sure he ever did possess any)
He's completely out of his depth and floundering badly.

HBC08

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

The people know that SF were shafted... political shapeshifters is all we have in office right now.

The people will not forget!

As bad as things are now,can you imagine how bad it would be with SF wasters in government.
David "up the ra" Cullinane as Tanaiste,Violet Anne minister for health,Dessie Ellis minister for justice........lol

Cilldara_2000

PhilOssophy wrote: »

SF have been a laughing stock since the election. They made absolutely not 1 effort to form a government, hid behind the fact that they wouldn't form with FF and FG (which ruled out forming a government with anybody). It proved that they are purely a party of protest.
Even Mary Lou when MM ignored NPHET advice to move to level 5, had to hide behind "10 years of zero investment in the health service" as her only defence. As if she or her party would take on the public sector unions in the HSE which everybody with even 1 brain cell knows is the real problem in the service? And as for Louisa, since she was on Prime Time on a health matter and could only talk about renters, it said it all!

It is true that Donnelly couldn't not take it, but how they agreed to taking education when it was the obvious row coming up, I don't know.

Gwahahahaha!

Wtf were SF supposed to do when FFG & Labour ruled them out? Come on now explain that. Explain how they were supposed to form a government when 78 TDs wouldn't even talk to them?

And then, they actually did make a genuine effort at drumming up support despite all this.

Most of the criticism SF gets is hilarious. It would never be leveled at any other party.

Finty Lemon

HBC08 wrote: »

I think MM falls into the bracket of overly ambitious eejit and thats being generous.His absolute need to be Taoiseach at any cost blinded any political intelligence he may have had (I'm not sure he ever did possess any)
He's completely out of his depth and floundering badly.

Daniel MConnell calls it right in todays Examiner. Martin is growing into the role of leader now. His integrity stands in contrast to what faces him across the chamber.

Beechwoodspark

TheValeyard wrote: »

He's sh1te at the speeches. At least Leo added a bit of Lord of the Rings or Terminator to it!

Thanks but I’ll take my chances with M Martin over LVs “let’s see if I can trend on tick tock” social media bull plop

Kowerski

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Gwahahahaha!

Wtf were SF supposed to do when FFG & Labour ruled them out? Come on now explain that. Explain how they were supposed to form a government when 78 TDs wouldn't even talk to them?

And then, they actually did make a genuine effort at drumming up support despite all this.

Most of the criticism SF gets is hilarious. It would never be leveled at any other party.

You should read the thread, good insight into Sinn Fein getting "blocked"

Skeetur

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Most of the criticism SF gets is hilarious. It would never be leveled at any other party.

That's not true. People before profit are a likewise bunch of populist airbags and get treated the same as SF.

SF have no interest in being in government because it would mean having to work instead of whinge.

dundalkfc10

PhilOssophy wrote: »

SF have been a laughing stock since the election. They made absolutely not 1 effort to form a government, hid behind the fact that they wouldn't form with FF and FG (which ruled out forming a government with anybody). It proved that they are purely a party of protest.
Even Mary Lou when MM ignored NPHET advice to move to level 5, had to hide behind "10 years of zero investment in the health service" as her only defence. As if she or her party would take on the public sector unions in the HSE which everybody with even 1 brain cell knows is the real problem in the service? And as for Louisa, since she was on Prime Time on a health matter and could only talk about renters, it said it all!

It is true that Donnelly couldn't not take it, but how they agreed to taking education when it was the obvious row coming up, I don't know.

What absolute ****e. FF Labour and FG refused to talk to SF. FF and FG broke their pre election promise to not form a Govt together just to keep SF out

You know it, I know it, the dogs on the street know it.

It's worked out ok for FG as they are the 3rd biggest party in the 26 and have managed to stay in Govt but its basically ended FF as a major party in the next election

whisky_galore

I feel sorry for MM. Utterly dull. I'd fall asleep during one of his speeches.

Much as I dislike smarmy LV for his social media 'shares and likes' whoring, he's still streets ahead of MM.