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What would be the cheapest way to add a back porch to a timber frame house?

  • 03-10-2020 9:52pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,849 ✭✭✭✭
    Ms


    Could it be done with a steel frame and correcated steel sheets and would you have to apply for planning permission?

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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,172 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    A porch is a porch.

    2 sq m is exempt.

    As for best to connect to timber frame.... If it has a block outer leaf, then all options are going to be similar to that if it was a block build


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Garden shed with big Windows?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    AMKC wrote: »
    Could it be done with a steel frame and correcated steel sheets and would you have to apply for planning permission?

    You say back and porch in the same sentence.
    A Porch is typically to the front.

    What exactly are you looking to do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,849 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Gumbo wrote: »
    You say back and porch in the same sentence.
    A Porch is typically to the front.

    What exactly are you looking to do?

    Not nècesseraly. The parents house both old and the new one have a Porch at the back. I have been in many house's with a Porch at the back.
    Just to get a Porch on the back so the dogs could come in and out when they like without me having to get up every 10 minutes. It will prob not happen anytime soon just thinking about it for now. At the moment I have double doors that are straight into the dinner/kitchen room and can not leave them open on a windy wet day and putting a dog door on it means changing the whole glass in one of the doors and I would like a Porch even if it was only 2sq m's like a poster above said

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    AMKC wrote: »
    Not nècesseraly. The parents house both old and the new one have a Porch at the back. I have been in many house's with a Porch at the back.
    Just to get a Porch on the back so the dogs could come in and out when they like without me having to get up every 10 minutes. It will prob not happen anytime soon just thinking about it for now. At the moment I have double doors that are straight into the dinner/kitchen room and can not leave them open on a windy wet day and putting a dog door on it means changing the whole glass in one of the doors and I would like a Porch even if it was only 2sq m's like a poster above said

    If it’s at the back then it’s an extension. So extension exemption applies.
    If it’s to the front then it’s a porch. So the porch exemption applies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Just a thought but there must be the odd second hand PVC conservatory laying around somewhere, it might fit your purpose with minimal effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭tscul32


    What about a pergola? Wooden frame and corrugated plastic roof.

    -Snip-


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,223 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    tscul32 wrote: »
    What about a pergola? Wooden frame and corrugated plastic roof.

    Snip ]

    A pergola is detached with an open roof and sides but no floor.
    A gazebo is detached with a solid roof, open sides and raised floor.
    A pavilion is detached with a solid roof, open sides and no floor.
    A veranda is fully integrated with a solid roof, open sides and a floor.
    A porch is fully integrated with a solid roof and sometimes walls and/or floor (overlaps definition of veranda).
    An awning is attached, cantilevered, with no floor but a continuous roof which may be retractable.
    A brise soleil is an attached, cantilevered open roof.
    An extension is a habitable space inside the heated envelope of the house and must comply with building regulations for same.

    I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,223 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Oh, I missed the most important one!

    Draught lobby.

    Which sounds like what the OP actually needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Gumbo wrote: »
    If it’s at the back then it’s an extension. So extension exemption applies.
    If it’s to the front then it’s a porch. So the porch exemption applies.

    The regulations don't actually distinguish for a porch, so technically a porch can be is to any side, not just the front. Where as an exempt extension must be to the rear.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Mellor wrote: »
    The regulations don't actually distinguish for a porch, so technically a porch can be is to any side, not just the front. Where as an exempt extension must be to the rear.

    Good spot. If you put the porch to the rear your well covered with the 40 Sq. M exemption then.


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