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Solar panel: sink or bath switch

  • 26-09-2020 3:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭


    We have moved to a new house with A3 rating and there are solar panels. There is a Bath/Sink switch which is supposedly attached to our solar panels to provide hot water on first floor only. Please see attached image.

    My question is do we leave it Turned On constantly and how will it effect our bills?

    20200926-155121.jpg


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Impossible to say how a immersion switch operates with solar panels without knowing how it is wired. I suggest that you direct this question to the person that wired it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭corglass


    We have moved to a new house with A3 rating and there are solar panels. There is a Bath/Sink switch which is supposedly attached to our solar panels to provide hot water on first floor only. Please see attached image.

    My question is do we leave it Turned On constantly and how will it effect our bills?

    20200926-155121.jpg

    A quick way to test is to count the number of revolutions of you electricity meter in 1min in both on and off position during the day.

    If there's a difference then power is coming from grid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭John.G


    We have moved to a new house with A3 rating and there are solar panels. There is a Bath/Sink switch which is supposedly attached to our solar panels to provide hot water on first floor only. Please see attached image.

    My question is do we leave it Turned On constantly and how will it effect our bills?

    20200926-155121.jpg

    There are two types of solar panels, solar thermal which heats the water via a coil in the HW cylinder and this can be topped up with a dual immersion which works in the normal way.
    The other type which I assume you have produces electricity and is paralleled with the mains so that if you produce in excess of requirements then it exports to the grid but you don't get paid for it. Because of this a diverter can be fitted which will divert this excess automatically to a heating (immersion type) element in the cylinder. Don't know if this is your system or not, also don't get first floor only reference.


  • Moderators Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Spocker


    Post a picture of the equipment in your hotpress. What type of solar panels are they, flat or tubes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Thanks you all!

    The solar panels are flat. There is a grid in our attic which shows some sort of numbers, I suppose those are the electricity unit generated by the solar panel.

    We have digital ESB meter, how do I calculate usage on this with please? @Corglass: how do I check revolutions per minute on this?

    Please find attached picture of the boiler :

    20200926-212344.jpg


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    There is a grid in our attic which shows some sort of numbers

    Can you post a photo of this?
    We have digital ESB meter, how do I calculate usage on this with please? @Corglass: how do I check revolutions per minute on this?

    There aren’t any on these newer meters.
    Please find attached picture of the boiler

    This is a photo of a hot water cylinder not a boiler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,583 ✭✭✭LeBash


    AFAIK, the solar just heats the water regardless and thats just an immersion switch.

    Thats how my install thats 12 years old works anyway.

    There are some summer mornings where I have to run off hot water with no heating on at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭John.G


    Still not sure if the ops is solar thermal or not?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    LeBash wrote:
    There are some summer mornings where I have to run off hot water with no heating on at all.


    You might want to have your system serviced as you shouldn't have to do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    My apologies for the delay in posting the pictures.

    Please see attached images of boiler system and solar panel system which is in the attic.

    Let me know your thoughts how our solar system is working :

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭John.G


    As suggested above I think you will have to see how its all tied in and how the diverter, the electric immersion and the heating coil all inter act together, but since it is a new house then there are probably lots of your type of systems around so should be relatively easy to get hold of how it works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭liveandnetural


    "My question is do we leave it Turned On constantly and how will it effect our bills?"

    your esb bill will increases

    if you have in on during the day the pv solar will generating electricity and in turn heat your water for no cost
    if you have it on in the evening/night (no sunlight) you will use the esb to heat your water

    there's is another school of thought about leaving immersions on 24/7 but we wont open that can of worms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Thank you very much!!

    It makes sense now. I did get hot water upstairs without turning on the boiler this afternoon. But later in the evening it was luke warm water and when i turned on this switch for 5 min, then got really hot water again.
    "My question is do we leave it Turned On constantly and how will it effect our bills?"

    your esb bill will increases

    if you have in on during the day the pv solar will generating electricity and in turn heat your water for no cost
    if you have it on in the evening/night (no sunlight) you will use the esb to heat your water

    there's is another school of thought about leaving immersions on 24/7 but we wont open that can of worms


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