Traffic on roundabouts

Olwas2014

Hello, on a particular roundabout there is a busy road entering it. The traffic coming in from this road is often in a long queue which continues straiht on (after the 1st exit). This traffic queue would commonly continue through the roundabout so there are cars stopped in the queue on the roundabout and passed the give way lines. This busy road is the 1st exit from the road I usually enter from i.e is a left turn from this road. The lane for going straight on from this road is the right lane with the left lane being left only. This leaves me joining the roundabout on the inside lane. My intended exit is the 2nd exit, the busy exit with the continuing line of traffic. How do I enter this queue of traffic. Normally, if the queue isnt there I exit as normal but in this case when the queue is blocking the exit do I just put on a signal, stop if necessary and wait for a car to let me into the queue? In my eyes this is all that I can do. Would anyone advise otherwise? Let me know if I am not making sense. I have attached an image to illustrate.

Illustration: https://imgur.com/a/LyrEwNl


Thank You.

J_R

Hi,

Why do you wait so long to attempt to enter the left lane ?. Are you blocked by Solid white lines ? Can you change lanes immediately after the first exit.? If so - do so, as you are now on the roundabout the cars entering must yield to you. If they do not, no problem, just wait until either a polite driver or else someone who actually knows the rules of the road arrives

Good diagram BTW

Olwas2014

J_R wrote: »

Hi,

Why do you wait so long to attempt to enter the left lane ?. Are you blocked by Solid white lines ? Can you change lanes immediately after the first exit.? If so - do so, as you are now on the roundabout the cars entering must yield to you. If they do not, no problem, just wait until either a polite driver or else someone who actually knows the rules of the road arrives

Good diagram BTW

Thank you, no nothing stopping me from entering left lane, just didn't make this clear on the diagram. Yah I was thinking that about the cars in the traffic having to yield to me. Thank you for this, it's a great help.

J_R

Olwas2014 wrote: »

Thank you, no nothing stopping me from entering left lane, just didn't make this clear on the diagram. Yah I was thinking that about the cars in the traffic having to yield to me. Thank you for this, it's a great help.

Hi,

Just to clarify, if the cars are actually ON the roundabout then lane rules apply. You can not force your way in, you must Yield to the traffic already in that lane or wait until allowed. You have no right-of-way.

You must try get into the left lane just before the traffic enters.

Basic rule of driving is that you always select and enter your desired lane as soon as possible, otherwise you may not be able to later.

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OP as i understand you are being blocked by the line of cars when you try to change lane.? All you can do is indicate and wait for someone to let you go. I have seen some roundabouts similar to yours having box junction presumably to avoid the issue you have.

bobbyy gee

You confuse me are you getting on at the off exit lane or is there two on lanes both getting on and none getting off. There's some rule 2 exits stay in outside lane near exits 3-4 inside lane go inside usually on two lane roundabout there's two on lanes and two exit lanes at each exit

https://blog.irishtourism.com/2014/09/16/tips-for-driving-in-ireland/

J_R

Hi,
My understanding of the OP's problem, he must enter using the right hand lane as the left lane is designated for left turn only. Then to exit he must change to the left lane..

Now, as per his diagram Roundabout

the left lane - marked by red line, at times consists of a solid line of traffic. His question was can he stop and wait for some motorist to allow him enter,

My reply, if possible, to get into the left lane before the entrance (Marked 1st exit on diagram) and break up the nose to tail caravan of cars before they enter the roundabout.

Legally, traffic entering a roundabout must yield to traffic already on the roundabout so technically he should have no problem even from the right hand lane.

But I assumed from his post that the traffic entering suffer from the very common lemming syndrome, that is blindly following, nose to tail, the car in front.

By changing to the left lane he should more easily be able to break up the caravan, as it would be obvious even to the most dense lemming that they must yield.

The problem with waiting until the last minute to change lanes is that overtaking a line of traffic then indicating to cut in in front, the motorists you have overtaken will assume that you are merely lane hopping and be loath to yield.

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J_R wrote: »

Hi,
My understanding of the OP's problem, he must enter using the right hand lane as the left lane is designated for left turn only. Then to exit he must change to the left lane..

Now, as per his diagram Roundabout

the left lane - marked by red line, at times consists of a solid line of traffic. His question was can he stop and wait for some motorist to allow him enter,

My reply, if possible, to get into the left lane before the entrance (Marked 1st exit on diagram) and break up the nose to tail caravan of cars before they enter the roundabout.

Legally, traffic entering a roundabout must yield to traffic already on the roundabout so technically he should have no problem even from the right hand lane.

But I assumed from his post that the traffic entering suffer from the very common lemming syndrome, that is blindly following, nose to tail, the car in front.

By changing to the left lane he should more easily be able to break up the caravan, as it would be obvious even to the most dense lemming that they must yield.

The problem with waiting until the last minute to change lanes is that overtaking a line of traffic then indicating to cut in in front, the motorists you have overtaken will assume that you are merely lane hopping and be loath to yield.

He cannot get into left as you say because you indicate and change lanes after you have passed the exit before the one you want.

J_R

Kenley Ripe Suffix wrote: »

He cannot get into left as you say because you indicate and change lanes after you have passed the exit before the one you want.

Hi,

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Normally there is an island between the exit and entrance to a roundabout.

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J_R wrote: »

Hi,

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Normally there is an island between the exit and entrance to a roundabout.

i have no idea what you are talking about

Del2005

Olwas2014 wrote: »

Hello, on a particular roundabout there is a busy road entering it. The traffic coming in from this road is often in a long queue which continues straiht on (after the 1st exit). This traffic queue would commonly continue through the roundabout so there are cars stopped in the queue on the roundabout and passed the give way lines. This busy road is the 1st exit from the road I usually enter from i.e is a left turn from this road. The lane for going straight on from this road is the right lane with the left lane being left only. This leaves me joining the roundabout on the inside lane. My intended exit is the 2nd exit, the busy exit with the continuing line of traffic. How do I enter this queue of traffic. Normally, if the queue isnt there I exit as normal but in this case when the queue is blocking the exit do I just put on a signal, stop if necessary and wait for a car to let me into the queue? In my eyes this is all that I can do. Would anyone advise otherwise? Let me know if I am not making sense. I have attached an image to illustrate.

Illustration: https://imgur.com/a/LyrEwNl


Thank You.

What does your ADI say? If it's not a route they usually take you on ask to be taken to the roundabout and they'll tell you how to navigate it, usually for these situations you need to drive assertively not timidly but they'll clear it up.

Olwas2014

Del2005 wrote: »

What does your ADI say? If it's not a route they usually take you on ask to be taken to the roundabout and they'll tell you how to navigate it, usually for these situations you need to drive assertively not timidly but they'll clear it up.

We have done this roundabout but never from the direction Im referring to. I think I have the issue cleared up anyway

J_R

Kenley Ripe Suffix wrote: »

He cannot get into left as you say because you indicate and change lanes after you have passed the exit before the one you want.

Hi,

Do a Google search for "Roundabouts", then click on "Images"