SKY HD IN ANOTHER ROOM

Trebhygt

Using a wireless system to watch SKY HD in another room isn't possible because the RF OUT can,t send a HD signal...it will through analogue....my question is, can I change from digital to analogue ?

Thanks.

LenWoods

Trebhygt wrote: »

Using a wireless system to watch SKY HD in another room isn't possible because the RF OUT can,t send a HD signal...it will through analogue....my question is, can I change from digital to analogue ?

Thanks.

Using a Cable will always provide a better signal than wireless,
I'm sure you can contact sky and upgrade to skyQ which will provide a wireless multiroom option or at the minimum wired via powerline adaptors which use the electrical sockets in your he to create a wired connection between themselves.

If going for SkyQ ideally purchase a hybrid lnb for yourself and have an independent fit it, before or after switching to Q,
Because the skyQ lnb blocks out Freeview as part of its design.

Im not currently a sky subscriber but I purchased four sky DRX595C multiroom box's and unused UK sky cards to use as Freeview, they work great bought everything from ebayuk shipped via AddressPal or parcel motel.

There are also HDMi to coaxial modulators but they ultimately come down to a coaxial feed to the second television and if you could provide that to the television then I'm sure you wouldn't be discussing wireless capabilities,

Overall I would do my personal best to install a cable connection to the television as the wireless technology aside from switching to skyQ would cost way more than worth and never meet the same standard as a cheap old cable feed.

Trebhygt

LenWoods wrote: »

Using a Cable will always provide a better signal than wireless,
I'm sure you can contact sky and upgrade to skyQ which will provide a wireless multiroom option or at the minimum wired via powerline adaptors which use the electrical sockets in your he to create a wired connection between themselves.

If going for SkyQ ideally purchase a hybrid lnb for yourself and have an independent fit it, before or after switching to Q,
Because the skyQ lnb blocks out Freeview as part of its design.

Im not currently a sky subscriber but I purchased four sky DRX595C multiroom box's and unused UK sky cards to use as Freeview, they work great bought everything from ebayuk shipped via AddressPal or parcel motel.

There are also HDMi to coaxial modulators but they ultimately come down to a coaxial feed to the second television and if you could provide that to the television then I'm sure you wouldn't be discussing wireless capabilities,

Overall I would do my personal best to install a cable connection to the television as the wireless technology aside from switching to skyQ would cost way more than worth and never meet the same standard as a cheap old cable feed.

Thanks for that, great information there.ðŸ‘

swoofer

What you can do is buy a HDMI 2 x output from 1 input and then use a long hdmi lead but you will have to drill holes unless you have a very big cavity. A lot of people do this but usually on same level and to a kitchen say.

This is what I use

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07NW3GB34/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

you could then use a flat hdmi, here is a 20 meter one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/deleyCON-65-62-flat-HDMI-cable-White/dp/B075XP3NDH/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1UXHJ6ELH5FSS&dchild=1&keywords=flat+hdmi+cable+20m&qid=1600971370&sprefix=flat+hdmi+cable+20m%2Celectronics%2C158&sr=8-4.

or you can buy a wireless HD transmitter but its expensive.

https://www.reviewsfire.com/tech/best-wireless-hdmi/

LenWoods

Alternatively an RJ45 to HDMi converter would require a smaller hole to be drilled in walls between both devices but adds to the cost more than the excess change from the cost of a smaller diameter masonry drill bit would tender.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/EASYCELL-Extender-Transmitter-Receiver-Supports/dp/B07LB2L1R5/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=rj45+to+hdmi+converter&qid=1600972536&sprefix=rj45+to+hd&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzVllGNFREVVdZS1lWJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTYzMjgzVjNPUFpBRDJEME5IJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3NTkwMzUxUU1SVzZENTFKTkNJJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

winston_1

LenWoods wrote: »

or at the minimum wired via powerline adaptors which use the electrical sockets in your he to create a wired connection between themselves.



DRX595C multiroom box's and unused UK sky cards to use as Freeview, they work great bought everything from ebayuk shipped via AddressPal or parcel motel.

Never use powerline adapters. They are bad technology and cause interference to other users ofthe RF spectrum.

You cannot use sky boxes for Freeview. Freeview can only be received via an aerial near the UK. What you have is free to air TV. You don't need cards either.

LenWoods

winston_1 wrote: »

Never use powerline adapters. They are bad technology and cause interference to other users ofthe RF spectrum.

You cannot use sky boxes for Freeview. Freeview can only be received via an aerial near the UK. What you have is free to air TV. You don't need cards either.

What's it called when I have a UK sky card in a sky drx595 box and I get Dave, all the BBCs more4 film4, blaze to name a few all for free ? Personally I can't get those without a card.

Johnboy1951

LenWoods wrote: »

What's it called when I have a UK sky card in a sky drx595 box and I get Dave, all the BBCs more4 film4, blaze to name a few all for free ? Personally I can't get those without a card.

All of those are FTA and can be viewed with any generic satellite receiver without any card etc.

So I guess it would be called FTA on a Sky box?

andy1249

LenWoods wrote: »

What's it called when I have a UK sky card in a sky drx595 box and I get Dave, all the BBCs more4 film4, blaze to name a few all for free ? Personally I can't get those without a card.

FTA or free to air , a sky box without a sub acts as a free to air box , a quite limited free to air box in that you need a card and you cant record , and the epg is littered with channels you can no longer watch.

As to your original post , other than the RF out , which is SD only , no other reasonable or cost effective options exist for watching in another room with a DRX 595 box.

None of the analog out options are HD , the only sky boxes that had HD on analog outputs were the original Thompson boxes.

Wireless HDMI transmitters are expensive and flaky , there are two technologies involved , 5ghz and 60ghz and both are failed technologies that did not get ratified by hdmi.org.

The 5ghz one cannot send full hd and must lossily compress the signal , it must do so on the fly , and quality changes on the fly as the reception strength changes , there is also a huge delay between sender and transmitter , up to 2 seconds , which can be quite annoying if you can hear both TVs from whatever position you are in.
I had the pro air units for about 3 months , they were flaky and then they died , given that they were 200 euro at the time , very poor indeed.
I got a refund off amazon.

The 60ghz ones are line of sight only , and extremely sensitive , even dust motes will interrupt the signal.
They tend to be used in the same room only , so from source to projector , that kind of thing , they are useless if source and screen are in different rooms.

For HDMI cables , length is an issue , longer than 8 meters and nothing is guaranteed.
Powered or active cables might work , but here you have another issue , as these usually try to steal power from the HDMI socket , and Sky boxes dont have the additional power to steal , meaning most of these solutions do not work with a sky box unless they have their own power supply.

The best active cable tech is HDMI over fibre , but costs about 200.

All in all , the best most cost effective solution to getting your FTA channels in another room is a FTA box for that room.
There are many FTA enigma 2 boxes being discussed on here ( Zgemma H7s , Tiviar alpha , formula one , etc. ) that will give you access to all the FTA channels and recording function and many are around the 100 euro mark or less if you don't want recording.

All you have to do is run a feed from your dish to the new box and away you go.
You cant record on your DRX 595 , so you most likely already have an unused satellite feed handy ?

Johnboy1951

andy1249 wrote: »

FTA or free to air , a sky box without a sub acts as a free to air box , a quite limited free to air box in that you need a card and you cant record , and the epg is littered with channels you can no longer watch.

As to your original post , other than the RF out , which is SD only , no other reasonable or cost effective options exist for watching in another room with a DRX 595 box.

None of the analog out options are HD , the only sky boxes that had HD on analog outputs were the original Thompson boxes. ...

I have an old Thompson box here but it has only SCART output, no HDMI.
One Satellite input and one aerial input.
It does have a couple of RF outputs.

I have never used this box (was a donation) so just wondering would there be a HD output for Satellite HD channels on the RF output?

Just curious .....

andy1249

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I have an old Thompson box here but it has only SCART output, no HDMI.
One Satellite input and one aerial input.
It does have a couple of RF outputs.

I have never used this box (was a donation) so just wondering would there be a HD output for Satellite HD channels on the RF output?

Just curious .....

I was one of the first to sign up for Sky HD in the early noughties , the box was thompson and originally they were the sole supplier, and had rf out , scart , HDMI , and 3x RCA component video , the component was the analog HD output.
At the time there were a lot of HDTVs with no HDMI so this was a must.

Sky were only allowed to do this for the first generation of HD boxes , rights holders did not like the analog loophole ( non protected HD content ) so when these boxes started to go faulty , leaky caps on the PSU , a lot chose to have them repaired rather than get a replacement as the replacements had no analog HD output , and for many that meant a new TV also.

Thompson made other SD boxes , that must be what you have.

Trebhygt

swoofer wrote: »

What you can do is buy a HDMI 2 x output from 1 input and then use a long hdmi lead but you will have to drill holes unless you have a very big cavity. A lot of people do this but usually on same level and to a kitchen say.

This is what I use

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07NW3GB34/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

you could then use a flat hdmi, here is a 20 meter one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/deleyCON-65-62-flat-HDMI-cable-White/dp/B075XP3NDH/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1UXHJ6ELH5FSS&dchild=1&keywords=flat+hdmi+cable+20m&qid=1600971370&sprefix=flat+hdmi+cable+20m%2Celectronics%2C158&sr=8-4.

or you can buy a wireless HD transmitter but its expensive.

https://www.reviewsfire.com/tech/best-wireless-hdmi/

Had seen the wireless transmitters were very expensive so will go with your 1st option.
Thanks.