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Anyone out there looking for an American for work?

  • 18-09-2020 1:44am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4


    I am currently living in America and desperately trying to move my family and I to Ireland. I have two girls (5 and 3) and America is not a proper place to raise them. I am reaching out to all outlets. I’ve been a teacher for nine years but my certification won’t transfer. I am an extremely hard worker and willing to do what it takes to give my family a good life. Any help or advice is GREATLY appreciated.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    apply to university for jobs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    You don't say what nationality you are, but if you are not an Irish or EU citizen a good starting place would be to look at the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service site http://www.inis.gov.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    Being an American offers no value (it actually makes you have less value than everyone in the EU) so I would drop this "selling point" and instead focus on what skills and experience you can bring to a company.

    I assume you have a degree as you are a teacher. What is your degree? What subject did you teach?

    Do you have an Irish parent or grandparent?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ShockChance


    Picked a terrible time too. Not a huge amount of jobs (half decent pay) going around in Ireland at the mo. You could come over today and spend the next 6 months to a year applying for jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    Sbraun wrote: »
    I am currently living in America and desperately trying to move my family and I to Ireland. I have two girls (5 and 3) and America is not a proper place to raise them. I am reaching out to all outlets. I’ve been a teacher for nine years but my certification won’t transfer. I am an extremely hard worker and willing to do what it takes to give my family a good life. Any help or advice is GREATLY appreciated.

    Perhaps move to a different part of the US? There are some lovely spots with minimal crazy people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Sbraun


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Perhaps move to a different part of the US? There are some lovely spots with minimal crazy people.

    Believe me, I would love to but it’s much more than the people. There is an enormous cultural, social, political, and economic divide in America that hasn’t been seen, probably since our Civil War. So, no matter where I move in America those problems are only going to follow. I worry so much for my girls growing up in this mess. Ireland has its problems I’m sure. But, they are night-and -day to what we experience and are experiencing here. I just want a safe place for my girls for live and grow up in.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Sbraun wrote: »
    I am currently living in America and desperately trying to move my family and I to Ireland. I have two girls (5 and 3) and America is not a proper place to raise them. I am reaching out to all outlets. I’ve been a teacher for nine years but my certification won’t transfer. I am an extremely hard worker and willing to do what it takes to give my family a good life. Any help or advice is GREATLY appreciated.

    Ireland, just like the rest of Europe (EU/EEA/CH) have a similar policy as the US, when it comes to immigrants - you need to bring special skills to the table that are not available in the market for an employer to easily get a work permit for you.

    Each month, the governments of the 27 EU states, the 3 EEA states and Switzerland submit their labour market reports to Eurostat, who is responsible for the overall market report. Unfortunately, teaching is among the 30 listed professions in which a surplus exists. So being an American is a definite disadvantage in this case.

    Unless you have a passport of an EU/EEA/CH state it is going to be very difficult to move to anywhere in Europe, without special skills. There is no motivation for an employer to jump through the hoops needed to get you a permit.

    Have you considered Canada, it seems to be easy enough for an American to move there... otherwise all I can suggest it is to upskill, seek a position with a US multinational that might transfer you to Europe under their privileges etc..

    It is also worth pointing out that you can not move as a family. You need to find a job, establish yourself and then apply for family reunification under EU and national rules. Depending on your circumstances, this may be rejected, it is not a given that if you move your family can as well.

    You should also not underestimate the cultural differences. I have worked a lot with Americans in Europe over the years and I have found that they all have difficult in dealing with Europe culture and may are surprised to discover that say an Irishman, an Italian and an Austrian have more in common with each other than an Irishman and an American.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Sbraun wrote: »
    Believe me, I would love to but it’s much more than the people. There is an enormous cultural, social, political, and economic divide in America that hasn’t been seen, probably since our Civil War. So, no matter where I move in America those problems are only going to follow. I worry so much for my girls growing up in this mess. Ireland has its problems I’m sure. But, they are night-and -day to what we experience and are experiencing here. I just want a safe place for my girls for live and grow up in.

    What about Canada. Maybe they will accept your qualifications.

    By the way, a friend a mine knows a Muslim business man who moved his family to Baghdad, where he grew up, because Clonmel was not a safe place to raise a family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Your original post is a bit vague OP - what is your nationality? What passport or passports do you,
    your wife and children hold?

    If it is American for both you and your wife, and you both have no genetic connection within the last two generations that you caN prove with an Irish passport holding relative (a parent or a granny!) then you have no direct immediate way to come other than asking companies/ schools etc
    to do the paperwork for you to get a visa - you may have a unique skill or perspective or
    original degree:thesis that is is
    invaluable.

    Given the covid-19 lockdown and the
    dominance of covid throughout america it is unlikely - without contacts or speciality -
    that a straightforward visa application would be given priority due to the 1
    million+ out of work and risk of
    importing covid from the US and how existing colleague would react to that risk.

    HOWEVER - lady luck might be on your side!! I spotted only yesterday an announcement from the minister that there is an expansion of the Dept of Trade & Foreign affairs funding to cultural and EDUCATIONAL exchanges between Irish and American educational and training institutes specifically also covering artists with over 7 years
    professional experience in their field. This allows
    for the granting of funding for travel and living between the two countries - they also organise the visa and special medical emergency cover etc. it is a small office so you would want to be on too of tour form and have you research done before you contact them and be really on
    top of you game in terms of how your skills and experience align with their goals and values BEFORE you go near them.

    I have just checked
    the application system to apply from Ireland to
    go to the USA. Their focus is cultural and educational exchanges and networking to bring your special skill and expertise to an organisation/ institution in Ireland. However this is typically done on a matching fashion so you would beed
    to Pply and check from the US Fulbright scheme office ( It is a joint scholarship programmme run between the departments of trade and either foreign affairs or diplomat corps in boyh Iteland and the USA). The current new deadline for completed applications ( just Nnounced a few days ago) is soon enough - something like 2 Nov 2020 so get your skates in!
    The Irish Fulbright USA America website is something like fulbright.ie You would need to find and apply via the American one. That
    might be a great and easy chance and get
    your foot in a door to find something else when you are here.

    There are also new private boarding schools which recruit outside the Dept of Education - one
    opened in South Co Dublin last year or the year before - google most expensive boarding achool in Iteland and you might get its name! Here it is:

    https://www.nordangliaeducation.com/schools/dublin/international?gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAjw2Jb7BRBHEiwAXTR4jXy2FFyd4SPn2ybvleHd6LTuPhnjohrbzn0AQtDo5YCAjBOEy25ovBoCxs0QAvD_BwE

    There are also US educTional organisations like the America College in Dublin which might employ a generic american teacher - its 3rd level - we don’t know what your speciality or level or skills are so its hard to be too helpful.


    I suspect if you had a STEM based degree and built a teaching qualification on top of that as a postgrad them your options might be far greater in a wider field but without the detail its hard to be too helpful.


    We ( today) have just had additional Covid 19 lockdown regulations placed on us in Dublin so I can imagine with the anger
    the public feels towards this and travel
    from high risk no control countries such as America that you would be highlighting the safety risks of your area or family in any conversation you had as this wouod be sticking point for many. I was out eating in a restaurant last night and it literally shut down around us as we ate because of the new restrictions -
    staff were being told to go home & that the business would be closed and possibly non viable from the following day. Shocking to watch and be part of. Things are serious here.

    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    See which US multinational companies are in Ireland and s if you can join them in the US.
    In my company if you have proven yourself in your role getting them to help you to move to a new country might be something they can help with. They won't kill themselves helping you but if they can, they might make it easier.
    Mine has helped a US guy relocate over here and a Hong Kong team member to move to the US.

    It depends on your type of work obviously and Covid doesn't help but it might be something worth checking.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    HOWEVER - lady luck might be on your side!! I spotted only yesterday an announcement from the minister that there is an expansion of the Dept of Trade & Foreign affairs funding to cultural and EDUCATIONAL exchanges between Irish and American educational and training institutes specifically also covering artists with over 7 years
    professional experience in their field. This allows
    for the granting of funding for travel and living between the two countries - they also organise the visa and special medical emergency cover etc. it is a small office so you would want to be on too of tour form and have you research done before you contact them and be really on
    top of you game in terms of how your skills and experience align with their goals and values BEFORE you go near them.

    The problem with those exchange schemes is that they don't get you a right to apply for permanent residence status and in particular family reunion....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    The problem with those exchange schemes is that they don't get you a right to apply for permanent residence status and in particular family reunion....

    And rightly so - but it can put you and in sime cases your family inna country that you would otherwise have no access to whatsoever and in Irelands case, there are plenty of people who have wrangled further grants or extensions and stayed on for years on the back of them.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    And rightly so - but it can put you and in sime cases your family inna country that you would otherwise have no access to whatsoever and in Irelands case, there are plenty of people who have wrangled further grants or extensions and stayed on for years on the back of them.

    Even so the problem is the kids finish full time education, they have no rights to remain. I doubt it is what the OP has in mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Canada or Mexico would make much more sense than Ireland.


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