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The big picture - homelessness - rte

  • 14-09-2020 9:13pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭


    This is on TV now.

    Our government has completely failed people with the lack of affordable housing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,126 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    YEAH! free housing for some, that are on very low incomes or getting their free money, any one marginally above that, screw you! Go and pay a massive multiple of the near free housing, great system :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Affordable housing is a problem yes. But what caused it?

    I point the blame squarely at the Govt allowing mass immigration which has caused an increase in the population from 3.8m to 4.9m in 20 years. That's 30%.
    How could any country keep building houses fast enough to meet that demand!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Charlie Manson is punching well above his weight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,126 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    jay0109 wrote: »
    Affordable housing is a problem yes. But what caused it?

    I point the blame squarely at the Govt allowing mass immigration which has caused an increase in the population from 3.8m to 4.9m in 20 years. That's 30%.
    How could any country keep building houses fast enough to meet that demand!

    a part of it maybe, but it suits the majority, to have rip off prices. Particularly those in power, many of whom own property they let out or simply want their home to appreciate. Appalling planning, has a lot to do with it... thousands of irish that would have worked in the 1920, 1930's etc building skycrapers in NY etc and it seems that in 2020 in dublin, that anything above several floors, you need special breating equipment :rolleyes:

    Its total failure at local and national level of government. They only care about re-election, buying off the pensioners every budget, has done the trick for decades... tide starting to turn....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Well off people in social housing is the problem. Not to mention the high percentage in rent arrears.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,126 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Well off people in social housing is the problem. Not to mention the high percentage in rent arrears.

    well RTE and the alphabet parties, have it drilled into them, that they shouldnt pay for anything. Let the working poor pay for it and mental accomodation costs for themselves...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭sameoldname


    jay0109 wrote: »
    Affordable housing is a problem yes. But what caused it?

    I point the blame squarely at the Govt allowing mass immigration which has caused an increase in the population from 3.8m to 4.9m in 20 years. That's 30%.
    How could any country keep building houses fast enough to meet that demand!

    1.1 million increase in population is 55,000 extra people per year over those 20 years. Even if you gave every one of those people a home each you still wouldn't come close to how many homes we built at our peak in 2006 at 88,188. Even back in 2002 we built 57,695 so it's not something we don't have the capacity to do.

    Source.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Well off people in social housing is the problem. Not to mention the high percentage in rent arrears.

    Using tax payer money to supply social housing by way of renting and leasing off investment companies and buying off market instead of building our own.

    It started with FF demolishing 100% social housing estates to sell off the land or create piecemeal PPP housing. It was then exacerbated by FG using private business to shore up the ever increasing crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,742 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Well off people in social housing is the problem. Not to mention the high percentage in rent arrears.
    Bowie wrote: »
    Using tax payer money to supply social housing by way of renting and leasing off investment companies and buying off market instead of building our own.

    It started with FF demolishing 100% social housing estates to sell off the land or create piecemeal PPP housing. It was then exacerbated by FG using private business to shore up the ever increasing crisis.

    Rodney is right. We even have a situation in Wicklow where a TD on 100k a year is living in social housing blocking access to someone who really needs it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Well off people in social housing is the problem. Not to mention the high percentage in rent arrears.

    Social houses staying in the family when the family size dramatically reduces.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    KaneToad wrote: »
    Social houses staying in the family when the family size dramatically reduces.

    Yes, the social housing for life approach is a problem. As well as transfer from parent to child.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Total lack of investment from multiple governments in social housing is the problem.

    It's not the fault of social housing tenents


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    YEAH! free housing for some, that are on very low incomes or getting their free money, any one marginally above that, screw you! Go and pay a massive multiple of the near free housing, great system :rolleyes:

    There are no free social housing units in this country. Everybody pays something


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Total lack of investment from multiple governments in social housing is the problem.

    It's not the fault of social housing tenents

    You don’t think the massive % in arrears feeds into a decision not to add more social housing stock?

    Fool me once shame on you...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    There are no free social housing units in this country. Everybody pays something
    Remind me again, the source of this money for most of them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    There are no free social housing units in this country. Everybody pays something

    Just 90 million in unpaid rents .



    There is no free ohhhhh wait


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Roger Mellie Man on the Telly


    I hope the family (plumber/wife/kid) realise what whinging pricks they are (assuming they watched the program).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    It doesn't help when large amount of homes built during the boom were given to new " Irish ". As they like having 4 or 5 kids per family there'll be another crisis in a few years time.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Erica Fleming and Mags Kash have a lot to answer for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,676 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Homelessness seemed to go away for a long time there.......people must be getting fed up with CV19 and Brexit again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    I’m actually fed up of the how’re yaz now waiting years an all fur der free houses close to der Maas and daas, they can stay waiting as far as I care.
    It’s the average joe soap who has my sympathy, people who are working and trying their hardest to provide for themselves and their families who are being fleeced with house prices and on an ever more difficult quest to save deposits, and get a mortgage etc whilst trying to rent somewhere also to keep a roof over their families heads. They are the people who deserve the most help, they are raising the future tax payers of Ireland, and they should be prioritised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Erica Fleming and Mags Kash have a lot to answer for.

    I see Margaret's 'significant other' is currently a guest of the government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭atticu


    There are no free social housing units in this country. Everybody pays something

    Next you will be telling us that they pay tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    There are no free social housing units in this country. Everybody pays something

    Bullsh1t, there are huge numbers of people, something like 40%, not even paying the paltry rent required of them. There's tens of millions owed all over the country. You can keep on putting your head in the sand but the truth is the truth. Who's gonna invest in social housing when rent can't be collected and tenants can't be evicted? Nobody.


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