Jobhunting

defiantdancer

Hello there,

Having recently been made redundant and am job hunting, am slowly realising, trying to find a job IS a full time job!
Am just wondering what websites would people recommend apart from our very helpful community here😀I have registered with indeed, irishjobs.ie, jobs.ie. Is there any else I should take a look at? Also, can I just say I am always very impressed how much knowledge people have on this forum and how generous they are to share it. Thanks in advance🙏

antix80

From your username I guess you're looking for a job as a dancer?

defiantdancer

Any paying job at the moment! From your username, I would imagine u are 30, probably male and like to get up to all sorts of antics😀 Damn it, I am going to become a private investigator!

antix80

defiantdancer wrote: »

Any paying job at the moment! From your username, I would imagine u are 30, probably male and like to get up to all sorts of antics😀 Damn it, I am going to become a private investigator!

That's an 80, not a 90.

defiantdancer

I know. I was being nice so I knocked 10 years off your age😀That’s how I knew you were a guy. No woman would use their year of birth in their email address or username as we know everybody would instantly calculate our age! Us women have to remain mysterious! Have a good week😀

Be right back

Activelink is another website if you fancy working in the charity sector.

New2Dubs

Indeed app is pretty good
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/indeed-job-search/id309735670

jackboy

defiantdancer wrote: »

Hello there,

Having recently been made redundant and am job hunting, am slowly realising, trying to find a job IS a full time job!
Am just wondering what websites would people recommend apart from our very helpful community here😀I have registered with indeed, irishjobs.ie, jobs.ie. Is there any else I should take a look at? Also, can I just say I am always very impressed how much knowledge people have on this forum and how generous they are to share it. Thanks in advance🙏

It’s all about networking now. If you know someone in a company you want to work for get them to hand in your cv. Lots of companies reward employees for recommending candidates that are successful in their application.

Another option is to directly contact HR in companies through LinkedIn.

flipflophead22

jackboy wrote: »

It’s all about networking now. If you know someone in a company you want to work for get them to hand in your cv. Lots of companies reward employees for recommending candidates that are successful in their application.

Another option is to directly contact HR in companies through LinkedIn.

Have you tried this approach?

jackboy

flipflophead22 wrote: »

Have you tried this approach?

Yes and I know loads of people who have successfully done this. So many jobs aren’t even advertised anymore.

flipflophead22

jackboy wrote: »

Yes and I know loads of people who have successfully done this. So many jobs aren’t even advertised anymore.

Wow thats crazy wouldnt have thought many people go direct to HR via linked in.

So what would they say, like hears my CV if anything comes up type thing?

jackboy

flipflophead22 wrote: »

Wow thats crazy wouldnt have thought many people go direct to HR via linked in.

So what would they say, like hears my CV if anything comes up type thing?

No, just a short note on why you would be a good fit for the company or any of the jobs going there. If you can combine that with a reference from a contact already in the company, then you are well on your way to an interview.

It basically eliminates most of the recruiting work for HR.

TheFactMan

jackboy wrote: »

It’s all about networking now. If you know someone in a company you want to work for get them to hand in your cv. Lots of companies reward employees for recommending candidates that are successful in their application.

Another option is to directly contact HR in companies through LinkedIn.

This is 100% how it is these days them indeed sites are a waste of time, can only imagine the amount of cvs they are bombarded with.

Places now give 200-300 euro as a referral reward if the person recommended lasts the initial contract ect.

Nicole2020

TheFactMan wrote: »

This is 100% how it is these days them indeed sites are a waste of time, can only imagine the amount of cvs they are bombarded with.

Places now give 200-300 euro as a referral reward if the person recommended lasts the initial contract ect.

The tech companies give €1000- €5000 as a staff incentive depending on the level of job you fill for them.

I would also highly recommend recruiters but make sure they’re well known in the industry you’re applying for and regularly place people in it. The bespoke recruitment companies are best for this.

Misguided1

flipflophead22 wrote: »

Wow thats crazy wouldnt have thought many people go direct to HR via linked in.

So what would they say, like hears my CV if anything comes up type thing?

When approaching a company directly, the approach/cover letter becomes relevant. This kinda died out years ago but with the volume of CV's now being submitted speculatively, the cover letter/email has to catch the recruiters eye. It shouldn't simply be 'here's my CV in case anything suitable arises'. You need to indicate what type of role you would be interested in.

We are just about to hire someone who sent their CV in to me on spec.

OP - what type of work are you looking for? Maybe someone on the site can help you out.

antimatterx

TheFactMan wrote: »

This is 100% how it is these days them indeed sites are a waste of time, can only imagine the amount of cvs they are bombarded with.

Places now give 200-300 euro as a referral reward if the person recommended lasts the initial contract ect.

That sounds low. My old place gave 4K if someone was hired from a referral.

TheFactMan

antimatterx wrote: »

That sounds low. My old place gave 4K if someone was hired from a referral.

That sounds like crazy money I'd imagine they are really important positions where relevant experience isnt common ?

antimatterx

TheFactMan wrote: »

That sounds like crazy money I'd imagine they are really important positions where relevant experience isnt common ?

Software Engineers, but the level didn't matter. It was an outright 4k.

Misguided1

TheFactMan wrote: »

That sounds like crazy money I'd imagine they are really important positions where relevant experience isnt common ?

Not really. Companies pay about 20% of salary to recruiters. Much easier to pay that to existing staff members who tend to refer good candidates they are prepared to vouch for. Win win

Aleece2020

jackboy wrote: »

It’s all about networking now. If you know someone in a company you want to work for get them to hand in your cv. Lots of companies reward employees for recommending candidates that are successful in their application.

Another option is to directly contact HR in companies through LinkedIn.

Does anyone have experience with this and getting results from it?

I have been out of University with a Masters for almost 18 months now and have submitted hundreds of applications; but I have had absolutely zero luck. I only managed to get two interviews for sales positions and then got told I was overqualified. Everything else I either never hear back or get rejected immediately. Honestly, I'm really at the end of my rope and can't keep doing this for much longer - so if directly contacting HR over LinkedIn has any kind of success then please tell me.

antix80

Aleece2020 wrote: »

Does anyone have experience with this and getting results from it?

I have been out of University with a Masters for almost 18 months now and have submitted hundreds of applications; but I have had absolutely zero luck. I only managed to get two interviews for sales positions and then got told I was overqualified. Everything else I either never hear back or get rejected immediately. Honestly, I'm really at the end of my rope and can't keep doing this for much longer - so if directly contacting HR over LinkedIn has any kind of success then please tell me.

You personally won't have any luck because there's something wrong with your cv to have submitted 100s of applications and only getting 2 interviews.

What's your masters in and what type of work are you looking for?

Padre_Pio

Aleece2020 wrote: »

Does anyone have experience with this and getting results from it?

I have been out of University with a Masters for almost 18 months now and have submitted hundreds of applications; but I have had absolutely zero luck. I only managed to get two interviews for sales positions and then got told I was overqualified. Everything else I either never hear back or get rejected immediately. Honestly, I'm really at the end of my rope and can't keep doing this for much longer - so if directly contacting HR over LinkedIn has any kind of success then please tell me.

Yep, I have people contact me on Linkedin and I throw their CV at HR for the referral bonus.
Electrical engineering.

jackboy

Aleece2020 wrote: »

Does anyone have experience with this and getting results from it?

I have been out of University with a Masters for almost 18 months now and have submitted hundreds of applications; but I have had absolutely zero luck. I only managed to get two interviews for sales positions and then got told I was overqualified. Everything else I either never hear back or get rejected immediately. Honestly, I'm really at the end of my rope and can't keep doing this for much longer - so if directly contacting HR over LinkedIn has any kind of success then please tell me.

Your job hunting style went out of fashion years ago. CV’s generally go straight in the bin. You need to be much more targeted. Make a short list of where you would like to work. Check if you have any contacts in these places.

Find out which recruitment agencies deal with those companies. The recruitment agency will then help you develop the perfect CV for the company and may help you get an interview.

By the way, loads of companies reject applications without even reading the application or CV.

Aleece2020

antix80 wrote: »

You personally won't have any luck because there's something wrong with your cv to have submitted 100s of applications and only getting 2 interviews.

What's your masters in and what type of work are you looking for?

I have been to career advisors for help with my CV (was also at the CV clinic at the most recent GradIreland fair) - they said it was good aside from suggesting a few minor changes which I made. I previously spoke to my University career advice clinic about it too, they couldn't find fault with it. I have been to loads of online CV writing events/classes and face-to-face meetings (before COVID.) Same for cover letters; I go through customizing both for every application and do research on the company etc. The whole nine yards.


My Masters is in International Law. I started focusing on entry-level positions in finance/accounting/business once I got close to graduation. I still apply to those but now I've started applying to other things like clerical work, office administration, retail and part-time gigs etc. because admittedly I'm desperate (but I obviously don't act like I'm desperate in cover letters etc.)

Aleece2020

jackboy wrote: »

Your job hunting style went out of fashion years ago. CV’s generally go straight in the bin. You need to be much more targeted. Make a short list of where you would like to work. Check if you have any contacts in these places.

Find out which recruitment agencies deal with those companies. The recruitment agency will then help you develop the perfect CV for the company and may help you get an interview.

By the way, loads of companies reject applications without even reading the application or CV.

I get what you mean. I shortlisted a pile of places when I graduated, did my research, connected with people who worked there (especially people who also studied in my University because it's a great jumping off point) and then applied for them - and then the rejections came in like clockwork, as they always do. I have tried chatting with recruitment agencies (been to quite a number of them now) but most of them usually string me along for a bit and then stop answering.

I'll likely be applying to the same companies as last year for this years graduate intake - but trying a different approach. I have tried to up-skill during my time out of University (completed training/certification in Digital Marketing etc.) because I don't want to be idle.

Padre_Pio

Aleece2020 wrote: »

My Masters is in International Law. I started focusing on entry-level positions in finance/accounting/business once I got close to graduation. I still apply to those but now I've started applying to other things like clerical work, office administration, retail and part-time gigs etc. because admittedly I'm desperate (but I obviously don't act like I'm desperate in cover letters etc.)

It's not your CV, it's the COVID uncertainty and the difficulty hiring someone who's immediately working from home.

All of my friends have said their company's have stopped or slowed hiring since March until they get to grips with dealing with COVID. HR are busy dealing with furloughed staff, WFH, etc. It could be next year before things are back to some sort of normality.

It's disheartening, but it's likely not your fault you can't get anywhere.

antix80

Aleece2020 wrote: »

My Masters is in International Law. I started focusing on entry-level positions in finance/accounting/business once I got close to graduation. I still apply to those but now I've started applying to other things like clerical work, office administration, retail and part-time gigs etc.

If i were hiring for a clerical job, it would go to the person with 3 months office experience (even as an internship) sooner than the person with a masters in international law who's been out of work the past 18 months.

I think you need some (any) work experience in law before you can change industry with "transferable skills" .

International law just seems like something that should be in demand, at least pre covid.

Aleece2020

Padre_Pio wrote: »

It's not your CV, it's the COVID uncertainty and the difficulty hiring someone who's immediately working from home.

All of my friends have said their company's have stopped or slowed hiring since March until they get to grips with dealing with COVID. HR are busy dealing with furloughed staff, WFH, etc. It could be next year before things are back to some sort of normality.

It's disheartening, but it's likely not your fault you can't get anywhere.

I was very close to starting a job in a small firm in May; passed all the rounds prior to interview and I was extremely confident about it given the volume of graduates they wanted to take in. Then they cancelled the graduate program for this year because of COVID.

Part of the problem I have is definitely a combination of COVID and really bad luck.

jackboy

Aleece2020 wrote: »

I get what you mean. I shortlisted a pile of places when I graduated, did my research, connected with people who worked there (especially people who also studied in my University because it's a great jumping off point) and then applied for them - and then the rejections came in like clockwork, as they always do. I have tried chatting with recruitment agencies (been to quite a number of them now) but most of them usually string me along for a bit and then stop answering.

I'll likely be applying to the same companies as last year for this years graduate intake - but trying a different approach. I have tried to up-skill during my time out of University (completed training/certification in Digital Marketing etc.) because I don't want to be idle.

Contact the guys from college again. At this stage they will be more established in the companies. Get them to recommend you for any new positions. If you get an interview they will also be able to tell you pretty much all the questions to expect.

Aleece2020

antix80 wrote: »

If i were hiring for a clerical job, it would go to the person with 3 months office experience (even as an internship) sooner than the person with a masters in international law who's been out of work the past 18 months.

I think you need some (any) work experience in law before you can change industry with "transferable skills" .

International law just seems like something that should be in demand, at least pre covid.

I have been doing volunteer administration work for roughly two years (mostly content/website maintenance with some customer service elements such as answering help desk tickets.) Prior to that, I had been doing freelance graphic and web design for several years. I tried applying for roles in this area too but no luck there either.

I suppose it's really a catch-22 situation for me; I need experience to get into an entry-level position but I need an entry-level position to get experience.