Mad cost for a patio?

Realtine

I've just been quoted €3000 to lay a patio 12 mt sq. I nearly choked on my cornflakes - I think that's mad money - or am I just totally ignorant in my expectations? I was thinking less than half that.:eek:

hero25

sounds like a lot, but there a lot of unknowns. what are ground conditions? whats there at the moment? is it easy access? what material will be in the patio? etc
depending on some of those factors, yo may not feel the cost creeping up....

magicbastarder

12 metres square, or 12 square metres?
many people would mean a 12m x 12m patio when they say '12 metres square', which would be quite a substantial patio.

Realtine

magicbastarder wrote: »

12 metres square, or 12 square metres?
many people would mean a 12m x 12m patio when they say '12 metres square', which would be quite a substantial patio.

Hmm, I see, well its 4m x 3m approx. Its not huge by any standards.

Garlinge

I think 3 k is a cut off amount to do with tax declaration.

Addle

Is there much prep involved?
How many days work + materials?

BnB

Does it include materials ?

To be honest, even if it does, it still sounds expensive, unless you are going for some kind of supermegafugly expensive paving slab that is incredibly complex to lay and\or there is something weird about your site that will make it an awful lot of work to do.

Hereo25 is right though in what he said above in that you wouldn't feel the cost adding up and you were probably a bit ambitious in what you were hoping for it to cost..... but even still €3k sounds very high

looksee

https://www.drivewaypaving.ie/cost-of-paving-a-patio/ some figures here, I have no idea how accurate they are or anything about the firm, just spotted the page when I was doing some research myself.

Realtine

BnB wrote: »

Does it include materials ?

To be honest, even if it does, it still sounds expensive, unless you are going for some kind of supermegafugly expensive paving slab that is incredibly complex to lay and\or there is something weird about your site that will make it an awful lot of work to do.

Hereo25 is right though in what he said above in that you wouldn't feel the cost adding up and you were probably a bit ambitious in what you were hoping for it to cost..... but even still €3k sounds very high

It does include the paving slabs and materials, however, it's only a rectangle shape and we just want plain gray slabs. I wouldn't have thought it was a difficult area to work in. No circles or designs.

This may not be why, but worth considering as the reason.

I got a good professional crowd to quote for re-doing my drive. It was just about 40% more than I thought it would be.

The "boss man" was clearly reluctant to go through the motions of preparing a quote. I got chatting to him and he said he was sick of doing quotes saying that with no one going away on holiday due to Covid etc, a lot of people had a lot of spare cash and were looking to get major jobs done around the house.

And, it's not that they weren't getting the jobs, they were. And they were exhausted.

So these guys aint stuck for work, so it's the old routine, if you have to do the work, you might as well quote as much for it as you can, as you can afford to lose out on most of the jobs and only take the big payers. I think I'd do the same.

If that is what's happening here, might be best to wait until the Covid 19 spare cash clients have spent their dough .

deathbomber

bordering on the high side, i would expect/ask they are using porcelain slabs for that.

Captain Red Beard

I did my own patio 5m x 3m a couple of months ago for a quarter of that price.

Abril Silly Palm

Abril Silly Palm wrote: »

This may not be why, but worth considering as the reason.

I got a good professional crowd to quote for re-doing my drive. It was just about 40% more than I thought it would be.

The "boss man" was clearly reluctant to go through the motions of preparing a quote. I got chatting to him and he said he was sick of doing quotes saying that with no one going away on holiday due to Covid etc, a lot of people had a lot of spare cash and were looking to get major jobs done around the house.

And, it's not that they weren't getting the jobs, they were. And they were exhausted.

So these guys aint stuck for work, so it's the old routine, if you have to do the work, you might as well quote as much for it as you can, as you can afford to lose out on most of the jobs and only take the big payers. I think I'd do the same.

If that is what's happening here, might be best to wait until the Covid 19 spare cash clients have spent their dough .

I don’t think you’re wrong. There’s likely a minimum price below which companies won’t bother entertaining right now. If the patio is very simple and straightforward then it’s probably more a job for a good handyman than a professional company. Good handymen are hard enough to find these days but I’ve had some great work done such as hedge clearance decking etc through the years and for very reasonable rates.

I got quoted some ridiculous price From a company for some general garden clean up work this summer - even then they said it’s a job they’d fit in between other bigger jobs- I politely declined.

Sleeper12

Realtine wrote:

Hmm, I see, well its 4m x 3m approx. Its not huge by any standards.

Just got this size done myself. We opted for poured cement with a hardcore base & steel placed in to strengthen it. Cost us around 2.5k Euros. I would have thought laying paving slabs less expensive unless fancy slabs like granite.

Lumen

Realtine wrote: »

It does include the paving slabs and materials, however, it's only a rectangle shape and we just want plain gray slabs.

I think you should take a bit more interest in the materials. "Plain grey" covers a lot of ground. Limestone, granite, sandstone, porcelain, concrete...

I wouldn't accept a quote that wasn't specific about this.

Toby22

Hi,

I am getting a patio laid, have everything, slabs sand etc. Labour is 250 per man per day

looksee

That's dangerous, agreeing to pay by the day for a reasonably finite job - a reasonable firm should be able to calculate how many days it is going to take them to finish a job - how many men is that for? Would you be paying that for someone to come and lean on a shovel? If they quote 250 a day and say it will take 2 days (in which case it isn't necessary to quote a figure per day) fair enough, but that kind of money open ended is a bit off.

Its also a high enough figure per day, unless there is heavy machinery involved.

Smee_Again

Realtine wrote: »

I've just been quoted €3000 to lay a patio 12 mt sq. I nearly choked on my cornflakes - I think that's mad money - or am I just totally ignorant in my expectations? I was thinking less than half that.:eek:

I'd a patio put in at the beginning of Summer, about 18m2 and all in it cost €1800.

KungPao

Similar size area, I got quotes of 2.5k. Area was clear and ready for action. Was too rich for me so got a deck instead, for less than half that price. Turned out well.

I know it’ll probably all be in a skip in 10 years, but after 10 years a patio can look pretty rough too, and that’d be harder to remove and replace.

silver campaign

I was quoted €2000 a few months ago for 4m x 3m patio. He would supply all materials himself except I was to buy whatever paving slabs I wanted.

I decided to have a go myself after watching a few you tube videos and zero landscaping experience. Was happy with the result.

Paving slabs cost €280
1 ton sand €80
1 ton 804 subbase (chippings) €80
3 bags cement approx €50
1 Box of 'Jointit' €60
rented a whacker plate for a day €60

Materials cost me €610 and I spent about 3 days at it between digging up the garden. An experienced guy should do it in 2 days. (possibly €1000 labour??)

I still need to buy sealer and seal the patio, budget about €50

Sleeper12

Toby22 wrote:

I am getting a patio laid, have everything, slabs sand etc. Labour is 250 per man per day

If it rains for half the day you still have to pay 250 per man per day. If you get a quote you just pay for the amount quoted for. If it rains for days on end its not your problem.

An another point 250 per day for a labourer is twice the going rate. There are skilled tradesmen in parts of the country that struggle to get 250 per day

NIMAN

silver campaign wrote: »

I was quoted €2000 a few months ago for 4m x 3m patio. He would supply all materials himself except I was to buy whatever paving slabs I wanted.

I decided to have a go myself after watching a few you tube videos and zero landscaping experience. Was happy with the result.

Paving slabs cost €280
1 ton sand €80
1 ton 804 subbase (chippings) €80
3 bags cement approx €50
1 Box of 'Jointit' €60
rented a whacker plate for a day €60

Materials cost me €610 and I spent about 3 days at it between digging up the garden. An experienced guy should do it in 2 days. (possibly €1000 labour??)

I still need to buy sealer and seal the patio, budget about €50

Willing to post up any photos? (as someone who is thinking of making a patio/firepit/BBQ area in an unused area of the garden).

forzacalcio

Hi all

Any guesstimate of a cost for 7x4metre with either Porcelan or Limestone tiles and a border? Its just for the garden out the back.