Tour De France Stage 4: Sisteron → Orcières-Merlette, 157 km (Mountain) [Spoilers]

retalivity

First mountain-top finish of this tour coming on day 4, should see a shake-up at the top end of the GC. As there is uncertainty on what will happen if there are positive covid tests and the race getting stopped, expect the big teams and gc guys to be at the forefront (even if they are saying they wont be).

Based on that, i guess a break going up the road to snaff the early mountain points before it coming back together on/before the last climb. Odds seem to indicate same with Roglic favourite and the other GC guys prominent

Odds
Roglic 5/1
Alaphillipe 5/1
Yates 8/1
Pogacer 11/1

I'm having a ew punt on Landa at 80/1, bahrain seem busy so far and he is usually there or thereabouts. Also, Sam should really get up the road in a break for the intermediate sprint, only 5 points behind Sagan in that competition. May have to do it alone though, as the rest of Quickstep will no doubt be protecting JA

MPFGLB

The last climb is about speed.....Yates or Carapaz or Roglic fromGC guys


But fancy the breakaway ...Dan Martin should give it a go

REBELSAFC

Bernal to go for it today. Ineos won't want to risk a "shortened tour due to Covid" so will want their man leading early.

dastardly00

Breakaway has formed... 6 riders - no Sagan, Sam or Kristoff

7th place at the intermediate sprint is worth 9 points.
8th place is 8 points, 9th place is 7 points, 10th place is 6 points etc...

If Sam was 7th, Sagan would have to be 13th and Kristoff 11th for Sam to take green.
(I don't know what happens if they are tied on points)

neris

nice few points for sam in the sprint

dastardly00

Sam 7th
Sagan 12th
Kristoff 13th

I think

dastardly00

So I think Sam and Sagan are both on 83 points

REBELSAFC

dastardly00 wrote: »

So I think Sam and Sagan are both on 83 points

I think that puts Sam in "virtual" green for now as he has better stage finishes to his name

retalivity

7. S. Bennett 43 DQT 9 PTS
8. M. Mørkøv 48 DQT 8 PTS
9. M. Trentin 117 CCC 7 PTS
10. B. Coquard 211 BVC 6 PTS
11. G. Nizzolo 191 NTT 5 PTS
12. P. Sagan 21 BOH 4 PTS
13. A. Kristoff 135 UAD 3 PTS


SAGAN 79 + 4 = 83
KRISTOFF 77 + 3 = 80
BENNETT 74 + 9 = 83

Think Bennett may be in Green based on finishing positions (4/168/2 vs 5/108/5 for Sagan)

CrowdedHouse

PCS are showing Sagan still

happytramp

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

PCS are showing Sagan still

Sagan about 10min ahead on GC could be why. Could change hands tomorrow though.

dastardly00

From the Official rule book:

If riders are equal on points in this classification, they are separated by their number of stage wins and then by their number of wins in the intermediate sprints that count towards the points classification, and, finally, by their ranking in the general classification.

https://netstorage.lequipe.fr/ASO/cycling_tdf/tdf20-reglement-fruk-bd.pdf

So neither of them have won a stage or an intermediate sprint.

Sagan is 81st in GC and Sam is 142nd; so Sagan keeps green (as happytramp alluded to)

De Bhál

"the frogs"

Good man Sean, I laughed.

ratracer

De Bhál wrote: »

"the frogs"

Good man Sean, I laughed.

I’d say Carlton nearly choked on his afternoon tea when Seán came out with it!!

REBELSAFC

From CN:

13:52:39 BST
103KM TO GO
Bennet hit 70kph in that intermediate sprint after jumping from Michael Mørkøv's wheel. It was a fast one.

Tim76

De Bhál wrote: »

"the frogs"

Good man Sean, I laughed.

He shoots from the hip

Itziger

Jeez, that is one long strung out line with 68kms to go yet!!

Mefistofelino

Itziger wrote: »

Jeez, that is one long strung out line with 68kms to go yet!!

Tim "El Tractor" Declercq doing the damage?

I know they are getting it in their ear to mention it but the constant plugging of racepass is grating at this stage.

Itziger

Mefistofelino wrote: »

Tim "El Tractor" Declercq doing the damage?

Think so, yeah. They've called it a day for the time being. I clicked off the coverage and when I went back the Quicksteppers were gone and there were 7 or 8 teams spread across the road instead. Strange.

eeeee

Love the TG4 commentary on Benoit's fcuked bike bike - that's not gonna be going on ebay

Mefistofelino

Jaysus - that won't polish out!

Anyone want a pre-loved Sunweb Cervelo?

Squeaky bum moment for Benoit there, looks to be ok.

c.p.w.g.w

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Squeaky bum moment for Benoit there, looks to be ok.

Very lucky, did you see where his bike broke?

c.p.w.g.w

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Very lucky, did you see where his bike broke?

I sure did, did he snap that himself trying to stay up?

c.p.w.g.w

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I sure did, did he snap that himself trying to stay up?

I think so, proper scary spot for it to break

Tim76

Deleted User wrote: »

Squeaky bum moment for Benoit there, looks to be ok.

Literally, seeing as he arse-surfed along the top of that metal barrier.

Dr. Bre

Will we see fireworks?

seaviewphotos

Looks like it's going to be a lively finish.

Made that look easy

neris

That was good

retalivity

Bernal had no answer again

Itziger

Bernal was lucky there wasn't a 10% grade for the last 500 mts.

Itziger

First 10 finishers. Ten different teams. All 10 team leaders. Can't have happened too often!

retalivity

Nico dropped Hirschi to be the first Sunweb rider to finish

seaviewphotos

Jumbo Visma look really strong, hard to see past Roglic. Roche put in a good race to finish just outside the top 20.

Tim76

retalivity wrote: »

Bernal had no answer again

No explosive power from the Grenadiers

Tim76

Tim76 wrote: »

No explosive power from the Grenadiers

I'll have to watch it back later to see when they got dropped, Carapaz lost nearly 28 seconds. I've a feeling it was when Kuss went to the front?

MPFGLB

Nico was minding Hirschi all day and then lost him in the end

Maybe now he can go in the break as wont need to protect white jersey which looks like Pogacar will keep to Paris

triggermortis

When the last (but one) Jumbo rider pulled over, Ineos seemed to stop with him. Roglic always looked good for that one

REBELSAFC

Kuss looked immense toda. It looked like he could carry Roglic on his back up that hill

Brendan Hennessy

Any news on Dan?