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Will Brexit signal the end of the EU?

  • 30-08-2020 1:34pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭


    I just read an article that said Switzerland could also be holding their own referendum on exiting the EEA (It's not in the EU). There have been talks about France and Greece leaving as well since 2016.

    Do you think that Brexit will encourage other EU nations to leave or has the cumbersome process actually deterred those who might consider exiting?


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Where was the article you read?
    There has been "talk" of almost every EU member state leaving but as is evidenced by the UK's departure, it would be economic suicide and nobody wants to inflict self-harm on their country!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    Where was the article you read?
    There has been "talk" of almost every EU member state leaving but as is evidenced by the UK's departure, it would be economic suicide and nobody wants to inflict self-harm on their country!

    Can Brexit be reversed at this point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    Can Brexit be reversed at this point?

    Extremely unlikely.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1 Burnt Koran


    Don't think it will cause the EU to break up but it might make ReichKommisars like Merkel realise the little people have a voice too.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Can Brexit be reversed at this point?
    No. It's done and dusted.
    If the UK suddenly decided that it wanted to remain then (as I understand it) they would need to reapply for membership which would then be considered by the existing EU27.
    I would take it for granted that the special exemptions the UK previously held including not using the Euro would no longer be available.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    I just read an article that said Switzerland could also be holding their own referendum on exiting the EEA (It's not in the EU).

    Not only is Switzerland not in the EU, it’s not in the EEA either. It rejected joining in a referendum in 1992. It participates in the Common Market via various bilateral treaties. Not sure what article you read, but what you’re claiming it said makes no sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I just read an article that said Switzerland could also be holding their own referendum on exiting the EEA (It's not in the EU). There have been talks about France and Greece leaving as well since 2016.

    Do you think that Brexit will encourage other EU nations to leave or has the cumbersome process actually deterred those who might consider exiting?

    There was no such article was there mr fegelien?

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    The very public mess that Brexit has been has subdued anti EU sentiment in a lot of countries.
    If anything Brexit has made the EU stronger and more united than ever before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    The very public mess that Brexit has been has subdued anti EU sentiment in a lot of countries.
    If anything Brexit has made the EU stronger and more united than ever before.

    I wouldn't say that... the issue has just been entirely put to the back of people's minds in the face of the CV-19 event


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    “Take back control of our borders!

    Stop non eu migration

    The EU will force us to accept Omar the black Muslim from Kenya”

    “Send them back to the first safe country they arrived to (Greece/Italy)”

    Wait, Dublin III is no longer applicable?

    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,930 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    There was no such article was there mr fegelien?

    May have been these articles from that fine balanced source of EU reporting the Daily Express

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1321461/eu-news-brexit-news-italexit-France-Spain-Germany-eu-referendum-poll

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1241507/EU-news-switzerland-referendum-schengen-May-brexit-latest-boris-johnson

    The former dates from earlier this month and the latter from February of this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Cina


    I've a few French pals who reckon if a referendum was held there tomorrow, they'd vote to leave.

    Difference being, the French government aren't thick enough to hold one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Brexit will be the end of the UK, not the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    I just read an article that said Switzerland could also be holding their own referendum on exiting the EEA (It's not in the EU). There have been talks about France and Greece leaving as well since 2016.

    Do you think that Brexit will encourage other EU nations to leave or has the cumbersome process actually deterred those who might consider exiting?




    Lemmings don't actually charge en masse offof cliffs. True story.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    Can someone explain why exactly British voters were swayed in the direction of leaving by what are now revealed to be demonstrably false claims?

    Why didn't anyone warn the British populace before June 2016 that they'd pound would lose immense value immediately after the vote and it would cost them a lot?

    Seems insane for a developed country.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    A long history of anti-EU lies by both the mainstream media and government (Tory governments in particular) coupled with a disenfranchised electorate that have been let down for decades (with the EU getting much of the blame).
    There is also a rise in nationalism driven by a percieved loss in soverignty (again based on anti-EU lies) and the increase in foreigners coming to the UK and the UK not using their existing measures to control it. Again the EU was blamed for this.

    The people were warned but the media and government accused them of fake news and referred to it as "project-fear"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭Notmything


    Can someone explain why exactly British voters were swayed in the direction of leaving by what are now revealed to be demonstrably false claims?

    Why didn't anyone warn the British populace before June 2016 that they'd pound would lose immense value immediately after the vote and it would cost them a lot?

    Seems insane for a developed country.

    You're looking for someone to play the racist argument aren't you?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Switzerland are in EFTA, not the EEA and they are not having a referendum on leaving it.

    It is reasonably easy to force a referendum on an issue in Switzerland. The Swiss narrowly and unexpectedly passed a referendum to limit EU migration a number of years back (and, in classic fashion, passed by the cantons with basically no immigration). Not being completely stupid, the govt fudged this so that is resulted in merely a short period where Swiss applications for jobs would be preferenced over EU - in practicality nothing changed.

    There has been "talk" of the end of EU for about 2 decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    No being in the Free Market is the only thing keeping countries alive during corona.


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