Above sea levels and bounds ditches

morphy87

A family member has a block of land that has been neglected for a long number of years and he had asked me would I be interested in it to lease,it has to be reseeded, where I am at the moment I am 270 meters above sea levels where this is only 190,would this be a big difference when it comes to growing grass? Also it is very sheltered and finally if you were laying ditches later in the year with a digger what’s the story in regards bounds ditches? Can you touch them?

Tonynewholland

morphy87 wrote: »

A family member has a block of land that has been neglected for a long number of years and he had asked me would I be interested in it to lease,it has to be reseeded, where I am at the moment I am 270 meters above sea levels where this is only 190,would this be a big difference when it comes to growing grass? Also it is very sheltered and finally if you were laying ditches later in the year with a digger what’s the story in regards bounds ditches? Can you touch them?

What do you want to do to the boundary ditches.

alps

190 meters will.restrict your growth early and late, but you can still grow 14 tonnes. Just passed 11.5 tonnes to date here at 170 to 220m.

Soil type and fertility and your capacity to graze and move will have far more of an impact on tonnage grown than the altitude.

I dont understand what you're doing to the ditches...Dont make them too bare at 200m...they're an advantage

keepalive213

alps wrote: »

190 meters will.restrict your growth early and late, but you can still grow 14 tonnes. Just passed 11.5 tonnes to date here at 170 to 220m.

Soil type and fertility and your capacity to graze and move will have far more of an impact on tonnage grown than the altitude.


I dont understand what you're doing to the ditches...Dont make them too bare at 200m...they're an advantage

How about 17 m?

minerleague

morphy87 wrote: »

A family member has a block of land that has been neglected for a long number of years and he had asked me would I be interested in it to lease,it has to be reseeded, where I am at the moment I am 270 meters above sea levels where this is only 190,would this be a big difference when it comes to growing grass? Also it is very sheltered and finally if you were laying ditches later in the year with a digger what’s the story in regards bounds ditches? Can you touch them?

I'd definitely contact neighbours before doing this, might be delighted to have work done but could cause problems too.

_Brian

Round here it depends where the drain is.

If the ditch is on ours side of the boundary drain then we tend to it.

If the drain/river is on our side then they tend to it.

That’s the responsibility for maintaining stock proofing. However on a few parts we have electric fence up as they won’t maintain it.

morphy87

Tonynewholland wrote: »

What do you want to do to the boundary ditches.

He wants to lay all the ditches so they will thicken up, they are out about 30 ft from the bounds

morphy87

_Brian wrote: »

Round here it depends where the drain is.

If the ditch is on ours side of the boundary drain then we tend to it.

If the drain/river is on our side then they tend to it.

That’s the responsibility for maintaining stock proofing. However on a few parts we have electric fence up as they won’t maintain it.

Something similar here, but what happens if no drains or rivers present?

morphy87

alps wrote: »

190 meters will.restrict your growth early and late, but you can still grow 14 tonnes. Just passed 11.5 tonnes to date here at 170 to 220m.

Soil type and fertility and your capacity to graze and move will have far more of an impact on tonnage grown than the altitude.

I dont understand what you're doing to the ditches...Dont make them too bare at 200m...they're an advantage

The only reason he wants to touch them is to thicken them up and because they are out a long way in the field

morphy87

Really what he wants to do is plough the land,and reseed it and he said he is going to spread lime and tidy the ditches, he said he wants to do a big job as the land is neglected nearly 30 years at this stage

_Brian

morphy87 wrote: »

Something similar here, but what happens if no drains or rivers present?

It’s cavan, we need drains EVERYWHERE!

alps

Never heard of the term "lay the ditches"

Do you mean clear the drains?

Gas.....down our way the walls and field divisions are known as ditches..

alps

keepalive213 wrote: »

How about 17 m?

Never survive the air pressure...

morphy87

alps wrote: »

Never heard of the term "lay the ditches"

Do you mean clear the drains?

Gas.....down our way the walls and field divisions are known as ditches..

No ditches, they must 15 or 20 ft high and about 30 ft out

Wildsurfer

alps wrote: »

Never heard of the term "lay the ditches"

Do you mean clear the drains?

Gas.....down our way the walls and field divisions are known as ditches..

Surely you've heard of laying a hedge Alps, you're around awhile! It's a well documented reps/glas action.

kevthegaff

alps wrote: »

190 meters will.restrict your growth early and late, but you can still grow 14 tonnes. Just passed 11.5 tonnes to date here at 170 to 220m.

Soil type and fertility and your capacity to graze and move will have far more of an impact on tonnage grown than the altitude.

I dont understand what you're doing to the ditches...Dont make them too bare at 200m...they're an advantage

Ya farm here at lowest is 200m and highest I'd say maybe 350m,

_Brian

We’re at 180+ meters and decent ditches are a boon in bad weather.

Yea they’re not neat and tidy but they are practical.


Late spring frosts and early autumn frosts will depending on your exposure and aspect, slow growth of grass.

We have frosts into late May returning late August early September.

alps

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Surely you've heard of laying a hedge Alps, you're around awhile! It's a well documented reps/glas action.

Laying hedges for sure...

Tou guys have very unusual terminology 😂

Sowing fertiliser!!!

alps

kevthegaff wrote: »

Ya farm here at lowest is 200m and highest I'd say maybe 350m,

Are you growing grass at 350 Kev? Somewhere near 1000feet soil ecology works different to lower elevations and inhibits ryegrass growth...Wondering if you have noticed any soil differences as you go higher..

Some height up lad..

ganmo

alps wrote: »

Are you growing grass at 350 Kev? Somewhere near 1000feet soil ecology works different to lower elevations and inhibits ryegrass growth...Wondering if you have noticed any soil differences as you go higher..

Some height up lad..

Its heat. Every 250m of altitude the temperature drops a degree.
Theres probably close to 2 weeks difference in the start of the growing season too

Say my name

ganmo wrote: »

Its heat. Every 250m of altitude the temperature drops a degree.
Theres probably close to 2 weeks difference in the start of the growing season too

I'm at 115m. There's a 2 degree difference between me and farms at the coast.
Topography as well as height has an influence.

morphy87

kevthegaff wrote: »

Ya farm here at lowest is 200m and highest I'd say maybe 350m,

Would you notice much of a difference between the land at 200m compared to the land at 350m

kevthegaff

alps wrote: »

Are you growing grass at 350 Kev? Somewhere near 1000feet soil ecology works different to lower elevations and inhibits ryegrass growth...Wondering if you have noticed any soil differences as you go higher..

Some height up lad..

I most would be around 250 but a few hills are higher, some of the steeper hills lack soil and have alot of stone in them. These fields dont grow as much, I need to start measuring asap. I cant even lime some of these hills

kevthegaff

alps wrote: »

Are you growing grass at 350 Kev? Somewhere near 1000feet soil ecology works different to lower elevations and inhibits ryegrass growth...Wondering if you have noticed any soil differences as you go higher..

Some height up lad..

I'm stocked at about 2.6/hectare, when I travel from where I'm originally from which is flat to where the farm is the temperature often drops a degree or 2. It seems hotter here in the summer tho, definitely dont get the same amount of sunshine as cloud cover mist and fog