Buying New Boots

johnml

Hey folks,

I'm looking to buy a new pair of boots.
I've seen nice looking pairs from these two brands: Seventy Degrees and IXS.
I've never heard of either!
Anybody have any feedback / know if they're any good?

Jimmy Bottlehead

No clue, but why not choose boots from brands you know?

GBX

Wouldn't know too much about either brand. Are they on sale in a local shop? Id stick to bigger brands: Sidi, Held, Revit, TCS, Spada or Richa. All decent.

Jimmy Bottlehead

GBX wrote: »

Wouldn't know too much about either brand. Are they on sale in a local shop? Id stick to bigger brands: Sidi, Held, Revit, TCS, Spada or Richa. All decent.

I can add in TCX after using two pairs over the past five years, and also Forma having done 600 miles in a week in some absolutely horrid weather.

GBX

Meant TCX . Had a pair before. Great value for money.

IrishGrimReaper

Also recommend TCX, have a pair and love them.

nigeldaniel

I have not heard about the gear in the OP myself. Regardless, make sure the boots you do go for suit your bike. My brother got a pair in Jan and found the ankle part way too stiff to change gear on his VFR. Those were the 2nd pair of boots he got, as he sent back the first pair.

CJhaughey

IXS are a well known name on the Continent, Swiss manufacturer.
https://ixs.com/moto/
70 Degree's I have never heard of.

Sir Galahad

Bought my Daytona Traveller GTX from Germany and saved over €100 and got free delivery.

dmigsy

Sir Galahad wrote: »

Bought my Daytona Traveller GTX from Germany and saved over €100 and got free delivery.

I went for Daytona's too - their Strive GTX boot. Very expensive @ about 300 eur, that's with ~100 off the RRP. But they're great quality and I'm glad I spent the money.

Never had anything from the two brands in the OP.

Sir Galahad

dmigsy wrote: »

I went for Daytona's too - their Strive GTX boot. Very expensive @ about 300 eur, that's with ~100 off the RRP.

You have to pay for the bouquet. :pac: Daytona are used by Traffic Cops so I'm not using anything else. I actually saw the report into them by a serving garda bike instructor. As a result I'm sold. Also when you wear out the sole you can send them back to Germany to be "refurbished". About €120 and you get new soles and internals.

listermint

Sir Galahad wrote: »

You have to pay for the bouquet. :pac: Daytona are used by Traffic Cops so I'm not using anything else. I actually saw the report into them by a serving garda bike instructor. As a result I'm sold. Also when you wear out the sole you can send them back to Germany to be "refurbished". About €120 and you get new soles and internals.

Ya but they do look kinda ****e and boring tbf.

dmigsy

listermint wrote: »

Ya but they do look kinda ****e and boring tbf.

Ha! True. The ones I got look a bit less orthopedic than a lot of their range!

Sir Galahad

Sir Galahad wrote: »

You have to pay for the bouquet. :pac: Daytona are used by Traffic Cops so I'm not using anything else. I actually saw the report into them by a serving garda bike instructor. As a result I'm sold. Also when you wear out the sole you can send them back to Germany to be "refurbished". About €120 and you get new soles and internals.

I dont understand any of this.

IL wear what the garda wear because it must be good, even though they are on a budget and wear what will be paid for regardless of how good it is and have no choice in the matter.

Tbf Daytona are very expensive but no doubt there is better around.

Same with the no name brands in the original post, what's your life worth??

Alpinestars or Dainese are all I will wear and that's it.

I suppose my view is clouded because I crashed last year but I would be spending no less than 1600 on full gear these days, like but cheap **** and your mangled.

I was on the mondello track day and if you weren't wearing arai or shoei helmets they literally took your helmet up on stage and bent it in front of you to show you how **** it was.

People say it's all brand names but it's clearly not.

johnml

Thanks guys for all your input.
I've taken the advice of 'Jimmy Bottlehead' and bought a brand that I know. Alpinestars in this case.

extra-ordinary_

Sir Galahad wrote: »

Bought my Daytona Traveller GTX from Germany and saved over €100 and got free delivery.

Did you look in Maddocks when you were looking? Was in there getting wheels balanced and thought he was pretty much matching the online prices.

CJhaughey

Malia Future Maple wrote: »

I dont understand any of this.

IL wear what the garda wear because it must be good, even though they are on a budget and wear what will be paid for regardless of how good it is and have no choice in the matter.

Tbf Daytona are very expensive but no doubt there is better around.

Same with the no name brands in the original post, what's your life worth??

Alpinestars or Dainese are all I will wear and that's it.

I suppose my view is clouded because I crashed last year but I would be spending no less than 1600 on full gear these days, like but cheap **** and your mangled.

Daytona are an excellent boot, the choice of not just multiple EU police forces but also Road racers like Michael Dunlop.
I am sure there is sponsorship involved but their boots while not the sexiest are definitely very very protective.
I don't think you will find much better to be honest.

galwaytt

Sir Galahad wrote: »

You have to pay for the bouquet. :pac: Daytona are used by Traffic Cops so I'm not using anything else. I actually saw the report into them by a serving garda bike instructor. As a result I'm sold. Also when you wear out the sole you can send them back to Germany to be "refurbished". About €120 and you get new soles and internals.

I have Altberg, as used by - some - UK forces.

Not only fabulous, but also available in different widths. For years I've been buying boots that are too large (long), just to get a width fitting that's comfortable.

Handmade in Yorkshire,and rebuildable ad nauseam.....one of the best purchases I've ever made of a motorcycle 'item' ever - and not too dear: €240 iirc at the time.

HD_Cooney mush

I recently purchased a pair of these from an Army Surplus Store in the UK via ebay.

HAIX Bundeswehr Gore-Tex® Combat Boots
Genuine current German Army (Bundeswehr) issue black leather heavy combat boots (Kampfstiefel Shwer) with Gore-Tex lining.
Link:- https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Haix-Black-Army-Goretex-Boots/184355840687

These are the same brand used by the Irish Army, UK army and these particular ones are German Army spec. Armed and police forces in Ireland, UK and some European countrys use either Haix or Altberg. They are an amazing boot and would highly, highly recommend them.

listermint

HD_Cooney mush wrote: »

I recently purchased a pair of these from an Army Surplus Store in the UK via ebay.

HAIX Bundeswehr Gore-Tex® Combat Boots
Genuine current German Army (Bundeswehr) issue black leather heavy combat boots (Kampfstiefel Shwer) with Gore-Tex lining.
Link:- https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Haix-Black-Army-Goretex-Boots/184355840687

These are the same brand used by the Irish Army, UK army and these particular ones are German Army spec. Armed and police forces in Ireland, UK and some European countrys use either Haix or Altberg. They are an amazing boot and would highly, highly recommend them.

Lacing boots for a motorcycle. No thank you please.

Del2005

HD_Cooney mush wrote: »

I recently purchased a pair of these from an Army Surplus Store in the UK via ebay.

HAIX Bundeswehr Gore-Tex® Combat Boots
Genuine current German Army (Bundeswehr) issue black leather heavy combat boots (Kampfstiefel Shwer) with Gore-Tex lining.
Link:- https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Haix-Black-Army-Goretex-Boots/184355840687

These are the same brand used by the Irish Army, UK army and these particular ones are German Army spec. Armed and police forces in Ireland, UK and some European countrys use either Haix or Altberg. They are an amazing boot and would highly, highly recommend them.

For hiking

CJhaughey

listermint wrote: »

Lacing boots for a motorcycle. No thank you please.

Bike boots need to have a sole that doesn't crush when something heavy like a bike lands on them.
In fact even Daytona have some models that don't meet the specification for Motorcycle boots, and hence cannot be sold as Bike boots even though they are probably way better than many cheaper ones on the market.
https://www.louis.ie/artikel/daytona-voyager-gtx-touring-boots/602140?list=8c85e5bdc929c9f88a87767cead37a49
You need to have this CE mark
https://mag.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/advice/motorcycle-boot-ce-markings-explained/

HD_Cooney mush

Del2005 wrote: »

For hiking

If ya wanted to wear them hiking, Im sure you could.

But as a motorcycle boot, these have huge reinforcement in both the toe, heel and ankle. And they are waterproof with removable liners. And no-one would look at you like a crazy person if ya wore them with a pair of jeans or doing a bit of manual labor work on a site.

Versatile, safe, waterproof, used by armed forces in the field and comfortable.

Thats a win, win, win, win, win in any language.

Sure enough, if you're riding sportsbikes like GSXR's, ZZR's, CBR's and any other type of plastic fantastic Jap rockets, these boots might not exactly 'look the part'. But if you were touring or riding cruiser style bikes or touring on cruisers or cruising on tourers, these boots tick absolutely every box.

Bare in mind, I ride a Harley and do so all over the country and back and forth from Ireland to Scotland on a regular basis.

Skill Magill

galwaytt wrote: »

I have Altberg, as used by - some - UK forces.

Not only fabulous, but also available in different widths. For years I've been buying boots that are too large (long), just to get a width fitting that's comfortable.

Handmade in Yorkshire,and rebuildable ad nauseam.....one of the best purchases I've ever made of a motorcycle 'item' ever - and not too dear: €240 iirc at the time.

Fabulous, you say :D

listermint

HD_Cooney mush wrote: »

If ya wanted to wear them hiking, Im sure you could.

But as a motorcycle boot, these have huge reinforcement in both the toe, heel and ankle. And they are waterproof with removable liners. And no-one would look at you like a crazy person if ya wore them with a pair of jeans or doing a bit of manual labor work on a site.

Versatile, safe, waterproof, used by armed forces in the field and comfortable.

Thats a win, win, win, win, win in any language.

Sure enough, if you're riding sportsbikes like GSXR's, ZZR's, CBR's and any other type of plastic fantastic Jap rockets, these boots might not exactly 'look the part'. But if you were touring or riding cruiser style bikes or touring on cruisers or cruising on tourers, these boots tick absolutely every box.

Bare in mind, I ride a Harley and do so all over the country and back and forth from Ireland to Scotland on a regular basis.

No shin protection. No Bueno

Sir Galahad

extra-ordinary_ wrote: »

Did you look in Maddocks when you were looking? Was in there getting wheels balanced and thought he was pretty much matching the online prices.

Louis.de had an offer where there was free delivery and €50 off a purchase over €150. So the introductory offer made them very inexpensive (not cheap)

galwaytt

Malia Future Maple wrote: »

I was on the mondello track day and if you weren't wearing arai or shoei helmets they literally took your helmet up on stage and bent it in front of you to show you how **** it was.

People say it's all brand names but it's clearly not.

Sorry, not buying that for a minute.

I was on a training course some years ago when the trainer made not dissimilar comments on a participants newly bought, branded, ACU Gold stamped helmet (which, whilst not relevant, cost €600).

He extolled the same Arai fanboy BS.

The fact of the matter is objective testing and ACU testing and just as importantly proper fitting trumps what some so-called guy on an ego trip in Kildare thinks.

And, for many, both Shoei and Arai are a poor helmet shape, so entirely unsuitable.

And he didn't take it well being pulled up on it either.

zubair

galwaytt wrote: »

Sorry, not buying that for a minute.

I was on a training course some years ago when the trainer made not dissimilar comments on a participants newly bought, branded, ACU Gold stamped helmet (which, whilst not relevant, cost €600).

He extolled the same Arai fanboy BS.

The fact of the matter is objective testing and ACU testing and just as importantly proper fitting trumps what some so-called guy on an ego trip in Kildare thinks.

And, for many, both Shoei and Arai are a poor helmet shape, so entirely unsuitable.

And he didn't take it well being pulled up on it either.

Gas, witnessed the same BS.

HD_Cooney mush

HD_Cooney mush wrote: »

If ya wanted to wear them hiking, Im sure you could.

But as a motorcycle boot, these have huge reinforcement in both the toe, heel and ankle. And they are waterproof with removable liners. And no-one would look at you like a crazy person if ya wore them with a pair of jeans or doing a bit of manual labor work on a site.

Versatile, safe, waterproof, used by armed forces in the field and comfortable.

Thats a win, win, win, win, win in any language.

Sure enough, if you're riding sportsbikes like GSXR's, ZZR's, CBR's and any other type of plastic fantastic Jap rockets, these boots might not exactly 'look the part'. But if you were touring or riding cruiser style bikes or touring on cruisers or cruising on tourers, these boots tick absolutely every box.

Bare in mind, I ride a Harley and do so all over the country and back and forth from Ireland to Scotland on a regular basis.

Are you actually for real?

You know the main point of the boot is to protect your lower leg , if the bike lands on it it's going to snap regardless but if you have full boots on it probably won't be a compound fracture so the hope would be less damage.

I saw a Motocross bike land on my mates leg wearing full boots and it snap in half and him having to wear a cage for 6 months.

Good luck in your hiking boots mate, it doesn't matter what bike you ride so I don't get your point. If a cruiser lands on your leg you would be more ****ed than if a sports bike did. If your Harley lands on your leg you would be in a worse way than if my superbike landed on mine.

Those boots are a lose lose lose in any language as motorcycle boots, only a cheap ass retard would wear them.

galwaytt

galwaytt wrote: »

Sorry, not buying that for a minute.

I was on a training course some years ago when the trainer made not dissimilar comments on a participants newly bought, branded, ACU Gold stamped helmet (which, whilst not relevant, cost €600).

He extolled the same Arai fanboy BS.

The fact of the matter is objective testing and ACU testing and just as importantly proper fitting trumps what some so-called guy on an ego trip in Kildare thinks.

And, for many, both Shoei and Arai are a poor helmet shape, so entirely unsuitable.

And he didn't take it well being pulled up on it either.

Fair enough, IL believe what I saw with my own eyes. Every helmet that wasn't arai or shoei bending like a pretzel on the day.thw main takeaway from it though was never to wear one of those flip up helmets, they are a joke.

I should add I have a shoei ATM but in the past have had an avg and the quality is night and day. You get what you pay for, arai and shoei are the only helmets that are still handmade (YouTube) and there's a reason they are expensive.

Most of the newer helmets these days are by new Italian brands and they are made in China rubbish.

There is even reports you can Google where moto gp riders sponsored by them refused to wear the helmets and stuck the stickers on decent helmets.

End if the day you buy the best gear you can afford, whatever about helmets please don't anyone wear ****ing hiking boots like op

galwaytt

Malia Future Maple wrote: »

Fair enough, IL believe what I saw with my own eyes. Every helmet that wasn't arai or shoei bending like a pretzel on the day.thw main takeaway from it though was never to wear one of those flip up helmets, they are a joke.

I should add I have a shoei ATM but in the past have had an avg and the quality is night and day. You get what you pay for, arai and shoei are the only helmets that are still handmade (YouTube) and there's a reason they are expensive.

Most of the newer helmets these days are by new Italian brands and they are made in China rubbish.

There is even reports you can Google where moto gp riders sponsored by them refused to wear the helmets and stuck the stickers on decent helmets.

End if the day you buy the best gear you can afford, whatever about helmets please don't anyone wear ****ing hiking boots like op

I agree about cheap Chinese rubbish.

As for flexing: thats exactly what they're supposed to do, to absorb and dissipate shock. If its rigid it will transfer more - not less - force to your brain. Think of car bumpers: theres a reason they're bendy now: to reduce injury to pedestrians. Helmets are the same.

I'll go further: : the current science in motorcycle and other helmets is that your helmet SHOULD move independently of your head: its called MIPS.

Kildare Ego Man won't like that at all, at all https://mipsprotection.com/helmets-with-mips/

Finally: flip-front or modular helmets. More contentious this. I understand why, and I'm not unsympathetic. I've changed to the Shark Evo One Modular one and would find it hard to only have a fixed face lid. So I've both. In truth the Modular gets 99.99% of the use.

But, and it's a big But, same rules apply: if its been tested and passed, there's no grounds to refuse it.

And God Help You if you mention Ratchet or Click straps instead of D-rings for fastening whatever helmet you have to your head......christ, sure Kildare Ego Man will burst a blood vessel.....he'd probably be happy with baler twine though as its 'the way we always do things around here....

HD_Cooney mush

Malia Future Maple wrote: »

Are you actually for real?

You know the main point of the boot is to protect your lower leg , if the bike lands on it it's going to snap regardless but if you have full boots on it probably won't be a compound fracture so the hope would be less damage.

I saw a Motocross bike land on my mates leg wearing full boots and it snap in half and him having to wear a cage for 6 months.

Good luck in your hiking boots mate, it doesn't matter what bike you ride so I don't get your point. If a cruiser lands on your leg you would be more ****ed than if a sports bike did. If your Harley lands on your leg you would be in a worse way than if my superbike landed on mine.

Those boots are a lose lose lose in any language as motorcycle boots, only a cheap ass retard would wear them.

Hey, having had a Dyna fall on my left leg before after a car nudged me from the right hand side, these boots actually stopped my lower leg from taking any damage due to the reinforced rubber that goes right around the boot from toe to heel! Foot was wedged between primary cover and ground.

I’m in no way cheap and not in anyway a retard so maybe keep the school yard slagging to yourself instead of acting the hard man on online forums like a child!

😂😂😉😉

zubair

HD_Cooney mush wrote: »

Hey, having had a Dyna fall on my left leg before after a car nudged me from the right hand side, these boots actually stopped my lower leg from taking any damage due to the reinforced rubber that goes right around the boot from toe to heel! Foot was wedged between primary cover and ground.

I’m in no way cheap and not in anyway a retard so maybe keep the school yard slagging to yourself instead of acting the hard man on online forums like a child!

😂😂😉😉

Agree on the second bit, was probably a bit far goose, we're not on biker.ie. Lol

While you might have walked away from that tip you were lucky. For starters they're laced up. Regarding protection it's sole and toe, that's it, no shin protection, no ankle guards and no ankle twist protection.

Maybe you're not an ATGATT and that's fine. these boots are probably better than a pair of trainers in a small spill but don't be under any illusion that you're protected. If you want to convince me otherwise, please share the CE ratings they got to be suitable as motorbike boots.

There are lots of motorbike boots with proper protection that would suit your needs, you should look into them.

H_Lime

Ooops:)

LLewellen Farquarson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmWQKoN6yX0

This is an interesting video, and is probably relevant .
I know it says new rider, but I learnt a few things 're where the vulnerable parts are.