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Masters in a Uni Vs IT

  • 15-08-2020 8:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭


    Hi Folks,

    Just wondering how people view a Masters in a Uni Vs an IT, are employers snobby towards the awarding college still or have we moved on?

    Ideally i would imagine a potential employer would look at the fact someone has furthered their education while working at the same time so would not be an issue.

    Would love to get some HR peoples opinions and recruiters and anyone who has a view on this topic that is helpful rather than negative.

    I am not looking to bash Uni Vs IT just looking for advice on deciding to accept a course or not.

    Thanks


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    My 2c, it makes no difference where the Masters originates from. It would be the composoition of the modules and how relevant they are/of potential future use for the role in question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭duffman13


    kilburn wrote: »
    Hi Folks,

    Just wondering how people view a Masters in a Uni Vs an IT, are employers snobby towards the awarding college still or have we moved on?

    Ideally i would imagine a potential employer would look at the fact someone has furthered their education while working at the same time so would not be an issue.

    Would love to get some HR peoples opinions and recruiters and anyone who has a view on this topic that is helpful rather than negative.

    I am not looking to bash Uni Vs IT just looking for advice on deciding to accept a course or not.

    Thanks

    Did undergrad in IT and a Masters in a University found lecturers in the IT more engaged and better industry experience. Masters is in HR and I know a lot of people felt the same. I think the snobbery is gone. That said, it would depend on the masters programme some are very highly rated in industry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,234 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I don't think most employers will care tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Thanks for the feedback just to clarify the masters is Data Science In Carlow, I know very little about their reputation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,432 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    What evidence can you see of a relationship between the institution and potential employers? If there is no (positive!) relationship, then the course may not help you get a job.

    Also, where are previous graduates of the course working? Are they likely to speak highly of the course to their current employers?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    What evidence can you see of a relationship between the institution and potential employers? If there is no (positive!) relationship, then the course may not help you get a job.

    I already have a job so not to worried about their relationship with potential employers planning to add another string to my bow.
    Also, where are previous graduates of the course working? Are they likely to speak highly of the course to their current employers?

    Exactly the stuff I am trying to find out here hopefully someone comes across the thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭ArnieSilvia


    I'm hiring myself (only experts for projects), I don't care about the degree. Personality, attitude, experience is what matters to me. I highly rate people who demonstrated through their career a commitment to the role/industry and have done specialist training in their area from the industry experts.

    Personally, I've gone from a tech to the Head of dept in 3 years once someone gave me a chance to break the glass ceiling. Before that, 13 years of dealing with nonsense.

    I don't even have a degree in my area of work which is biopharmaceutical science (I have a bsc in business) but I did specialist courses (5k each) that mattered and did complex projects and technical/strategic documents - this mattered the most.

    I'm doing a 2nd bsc right now and its helpful but this day and age everything you need is there (books, articles), the course is taking up time I could spend on things I really need learning for work.

    IT courses are way to go if you want to work. University courses for academia IMO. Masters if you want to teach or want to do phd (again IMO).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Makes zero difference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    It really depends on the person doing the hiring.

    As an example, I happen to know cyber security companies in the Cork area highly value people from CIT's cyber security masters. (They are valued more than people from UCC and the likes).

    But you could be in Dublin, and the clown HR person might be a snob, so when she's filtering job applications she may drop the ones from ITs and keep the ones from universities.

    In general, a qualification from a big name university will look better than a qualification from a smaller technical college.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Bikerman2019


    I am unsure in exactly which ones, but some of the IT's have joined to form a university.


    I think Tallaght and Blanch have become Technological University Dublin. (TU Dublin)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Quadrivium


    It really depends on the subject, a degree in business from UCD would hold more weight than a degree in business from DIT/TUD mainly because UCD has the highest ranked business school in Ireland and is well known even outside of Ireland. On the other hand if you wanted to work in real estate or construction then a degree from DIT/TUD would hold more weight than any degree from UCD or Trinity because it would be career specific and accredited.

    There definitely is a difference in how they are perceived but it swings both ways for and against depending on the subject and career.
    In your position I don't think it would make a difference if your intention is to stay where you are, if you have any intention of travelling outside of Ireland or moving to a bigger company then it could be the difference between getting an offer of employment and not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    I am unsure in exactly which ones, but some of the IT's have joined to form a university.


    I think Tallaght and Blanch have become Technological University Dublin. (TU Dublin)

    They are all at it, these should be happening over the next few years:

    Blanchardstown, IT Tallaght and DIT -> TU Dublin
    Cork and Tralee -> Munster Technological University
    Waterford and Carlow -> Technological University for the South East
    Limerick and Athlone -> AIT LIT Consortium
    Galway/Sligo/Letterkenny -> Connaught Ulster Alliance

    It's notable that Dundalk is left out, as is IADT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    They are all at it, these should be happening over the next few years:

    Blanchardstown, IT Tallaght and DIT -> TU Dublin
    Cork and Tralee -> Munster Technological University
    Waterford and Carlow -> Technological University for the South East
    Limerick and Athlone -> AIT LIT Consortium
    Galway/Sligo/Letterkenny -> Connaught Ulster Alliance

    It's notable that Dundalk is left out, as is IADT.

    Are Sligo & Letterkenny holding their own or I wonder will there be a NW TU in the pipeline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Saint_Mel wrote: »
    Are Sligo & Letterkenny holding their own or I wonder will there be a NW TU in the pipeline

    No, they are in with Galway. So more a Western Seaboard Technological University.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭C3PO


    I have just made this choice and have gone with the University option. In my area of employment (financial services) the University Business MSc is definitely held in higher regard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Josuke


    C3PO wrote: »
    I have just made this choice and have gone with the University option. In my area of employment (financial services) the University Business MSc is definitely held in higher regard.

    Hi there, I'm interested in transitioning to a career in the finanace industry. Would the MA in Financial Managment or MSc in Business and Management from the Institute of Public Administration be held in good or poor regard?


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