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Staircase Compliance

  • 09-08-2020 6:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭


    I am in the process of purchasing a 3 bed house that I really like.

    The upstairs bedroom is a 'converted loft' with a windy staircase up to the bedroom.

    My structural surveyor has said:
    "We are of the opinion the restrictive head height of the staircase may render the conversion non-compliant and as such this space is suitable for storage only."

    However, the existing owners have a report of full compliance with building regulations and planning permission.

    Any suggestions on what I should do next? How do I sort out the 2 different opinions?

    I really want to buy the place.

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    JTMan wrote: »
    I am in the process of purchasing a 3 bed house that I really like.

    The upstairs bedroom is a 'converted loft' with a windy staircase up to the bedroom.

    My structural surveyor has said:
    "We are of the opinion the restrictive head height of the staircase may render the conversion non-compliant and as such this space is suitable for storage only."

    However, the existing owners have a report of full compliance with building regulations and planning permission.

    Any suggestions on what I should do next? How do I sort out the 2 different opinions?

    I really want to buy the place.

    Thanks.

    Tell your structural surveyor you're not happy with his opinion and you are going to seek a second opinion.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    JTMan wrote: »
    My structural surveyor has said:
    "We are of the opinion the restrictive head height of the staircase may render the conversion non-compliant and as such this space is suitable for storage only."

    However, the existing owners have a report of full compliance with building regulations and planning permission.
    Does what the existing owners have, list the converted attic as a bedroom or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭JTMan


    the_syco wrote: »
    Does what the existing owners have, list the converted attic as a bedroom or not?

    The existing owners have listed it as a bedroom. It is a large nice bedroom.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Spiral Stairs are very rarely allowed but they can work in some cases.
    You need your engineer to study Technical Guidance Document Part K,
    Loft Conversions
    1.1.15 Spiral stairs with goings less than
    recommended in Table 2 of BS 5395 Part 2:
    1984 and alternating tread stairs would not
    normally be regarded as acceptable.
    However, they may be considered in the
    conversion of a loft where space is limited i.e.
    where there is not enough space to
    accommodate stairs satisfying par. 1.1.1 to
    1.1.14 above and the stairs serves only
    accommodation which will be used
    infrequently and, where the accommodation
    includes only one habitable room.
    Alternating tread stairs should be in straight
    flights, have handrails on both sides and the
    treads should have slip resistant surfaces.
    The goings and rises for the wider parts of
    the steps should comply with par. 1.1.4.

    Your Surveyor should note the stairs and he is quite right to do so. This brings on the request from your Solicitor to request a Cert of Compliance. Then you show him the cert that the Vendor has and it should close out the issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,871 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Is there a bank involved?\
    when I was in that space, I would never accept a vendor opinion of compliance statement

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Thanks for the advise all.

    Yes, there is a bank involved, the bank had no issues with the structural surveyor report which they have seen. It is just my concerns from the report.


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