Were you held back in school ( repeat year)

cena

Happened to me twice in National schools

thomas 123

Is the thread title bait?

cena

thomas 123 wrote: »

Is the thread title bait?

Not at all

Mr. CooL ICE

Did you also go to collage?

cena

Mr. CooL ICE wrote: »

Did you also go to collage?

Collage?

thomas 123

cena wrote: »

Not at all

In that case no.

Ubbquittious

I skipped ahead two years in primary school. I was well able for the actual stuff on the curriculum but socially I wasn't ahead of my years and this caused me a ferocious amount of bother in secondary school

Ubbquittious

cena wrote: »

Collage?

Collitch :pac:

.anon.

A herd of wild horses couldn't hold me back. When I was in third class, I used to get sent into fourth class for maths because I was so good at it. Not just me, there were a few of us, but I was the best.

JasonStatham

I started school a year early! My mum couldn't hold me back apparently.

Your Face

They couldn't see you.

Rodney Bathgate

When I was in primary school they had me teaching maths to secondary school classes.

There was talk of me lecturing university students but the travel time would have taken time away from my naps.

iamstop

Did transition year. Was the first year of my school to do it. I'm kinda glad I did.

Signore Fancy Pants

cena wrote: »

Happened to me twice in National schools

Held back twice?

Your teacher was a Paedo.

gogo

Also skipped ahead for maths, was put in with 6th class from when I started 4th class, just for maths tho.

Repeated my leaving cert, and got to Christmas and realized I done less that year than I had the year before, went to a different school to repeat and was pretty much left to my own devices..... my own devices meant dodging every class I had, begged my parents to allow me to leave and got into college anyway the following September with my original low points, if I could do it all over again, I wouldn’t have been such an ass and just done it right the first time...

branie2

Nope

RWCNT

Are you mr fegelian's brother?

Wasn't kept back, but I screwed up the entrance exam to secondary school (just panicked or something), and was put into pass classes. If you're put into pass classes at 12 years of age, that determines the course of your whole education. How many people go from pass to higher level maths? Very few, it's too hard to catch up.

School wouldn't let me resit the exam (it was a combined maths-English exam) so was sent to another school. I got on fine in the end and ended up doing a degree I couldn't have done if I hadn't switched.

I think in all my time in school, fewer than 10 people moved up from ordinary level to higher level subjects. I don't believe that aptitude tests have that level of accuracy, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of kids are still having their aptitude wrongly assessed.

The consequences of that are unreal, I often think about this, how one exam at 12 can possibly set the course of your life. There has to be a better way of organising kids' education, really.

JupiterKid

No, the opposite in fact. I was completing my PhD just shy of my 11th Birthday...

John Hutton

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Wasn't kept back, but I screwed up the entrance exam to secondary school (just panicked or something), and was put into pass classes. If you're put into pass classes at 12 years of age, that determines the course of your whole education. How many people go from pass to higher level maths? Very few, it's too hard to catch up.

School wouldn't let me resit the exam (it was a combined maths-English exam) so was sent to another school. I got on fine in the end and ended up doing a degree I couldn't have done if I hadn't switched.

I think in all my time in school, fewer than 10 people moved up from ordinary level to higher level subjects. I don't believe that aptitude tests have that level of accuracy, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of kids are still having their aptitude wrongly assessed.

The consequences of that are unreal, I often think about this, how one exam at 12 can possibly set the course of your life. There has to be a better way of organising kids' education, really.

I think the entrance exam is the most important exam you do.

My sixth class teacher actually spent ages preparing us all for it, everyone in his class ended up honours. Some dropped down over time, but because of his work he gave us the best start he could. A nice man and good teacher.

cj maxx

No but wish I was. Finished my LC at 16. Far far too young

KungPao

As a wee lad, the thought of being held back to repeat a year spurred me on...to do the bare minimum to progress.

“Do the bare minimum” has become a mantra for me, in a way. I owe all of my successes to it.

freshpopcorn

When I was in Primary school my principal wanted to keep me back for various reasons.
First I had a speech impediment and I missed a bit of school for speech therapy but my sigma type tests were good better than a lot of my class.
Another reason was because I was small and she felt I need another year to grow. She basically told me that she thought I'd be lost in secondary school over my height.
My 6th class teacher really stood up for me tough.
She tried several times to keep me back but my mother didn't want it.
When I was in 3rd class she kept back six people for various reasons just out of my class.
She was desperate to keep up numbers and get more teachers.

Mekirin

John Hutton wrote: »

I think the entrance exam is the most important exam you do.

My sixth class teacher actually spent ages preparing us all for it, everyone in his class ended up honours. Some dropped down over time, but because of his work he gave us the best start he could. A nice man and good teacher.

My sixth class teacher did the same with my class too. Most of us did end up being put in honours classes going into first year as well. She did a great job preparing us for what to expect in the entrance exam.

freshpopcorn

John Hutton wrote: »

I think the entrance exam is the most important exam you do.

My sixth class teacher actually spent ages preparing us all for it, everyone in his class ended up honours. Some dropped down over time, but because of his work he gave us the best start he could. A nice man and good teacher.

When I went to secondary school in the mid 00's there was no entrance exam.
You were sorted into class alphabetically and by the end of first year. You had a fair idea if you were able for higher or ordinary level.
No, they do these tests to find the best place for you.

freshpopcorn

freshpopcorn wrote: »

When I went to secondary school in the mid 00's there was no entrance exam.
You were sorted into class alphabetically and by the end of first year. You had a fair idea if you were able for higher or ordinary level.
No, they do these tests to find the best place for you.

Sounds like a safer system than the usual entrance exams, but how does that work with the Junior Cert syllabus?

Does it mean that a teacher teaches everyone the higher level course, which might alienate kids who have no interest in it?

I don't think organising kids into different classes is a bad thing, but there should be ongoing monitoring where kids are able to speed up and slow down as best suits their needs.

Purple Mountain

John Hutton wrote: »

I think the entrance exam is the most important exam you do.

My sixth class teacher actually spent ages preparing us all for it, everyone in his class ended up honours. Some dropped down over time, but because of his work he gave us the best start he could. A nice man and good teacher.

My boy was fretting his secondary school entrance exam and was musing if he'd do some preparation for it because he was hoping that might help him.
I said no way, go in and do what you can actually do, no more, no less so they can see your actual ability and not overestimate where you're at.

freshpopcorn

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Sounds like a safer system than the usual entrance exams, but how does that work with the Junior Cert syllabus?

Does it mean that a teacher teaches everyone the higher level course, which might alienate kids who have no interest in it?

When I was in first year everybody started off with the exact same maths book for example.
If decided to do ordinary level at the end of 1st that same book would do you for 2nd and 3rd year.
However if you did Higher level you completed that book in second year and moved onto another book that was more advanced.
Similar was done with English and Irish.

Rodney Bathgate

KungPao wrote: »

As a wee lad, the thought of being held back to repeat a year spurred me on...to do the bare minimum to progress.

“Do the bare minimum” has become a mantra for me, in a way. I owe all of my successes to it.

Anything more than the bare minimum is a waste. And showing off. Fair play.

Rodney Bathgate

JupiterKid wrote: »

No, the opposite in fact. I was completing my PhD just shy of my 11th Birthday...

That’s nothing. I was a senior PhD advisor by the age of 9.

Mister Vain

Yeah I was held back in 3rd class. I would have been 19 doing my leaving cert.

SuperS54

Having being born at the beginning of September I was marched off to school almost the next day after my 4th birthday. Ended up getting held back in 2nd or 3rd class or so due to being so young and missing over half a year due to a strike by the school bus driver. I remember mingling with the crowd to the new class room and thinking if I got my desk set up and all they wouldn't be able to send me back...didn't work, ended up with double the normal amount of friends though.

talla10

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Wasn't kept back, but I screwed up the entrance exam to secondary school (just panicked or something), and was put into pass classes. If you're put into pass classes at 12 years of age, that determines the course of your whole education. How many people go from pass to higher level maths? Very few, it's too hard to catch up.

School wouldn't let me resit the exam (it was a combined maths-English exam) so was sent to another school. I got on fine in the end and ended up doing a degree I couldn't have done if I hadn't switched.

I think in all my time in school, fewer than 10 people moved up from ordinary level to higher level subjects. I don't believe that aptitude tests have that level of accuracy, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of kids are still having their aptitude wrongly assessed.

The consequences of that are unreal, I often think about this, how one exam at 12 can possibly set the course of your life. There has to be a better way of organising kids' education, really.

I had a similar experience and was placed into pass classes after my entrance exam. I did well at that School and by 3rd year I was moved to the higher level classes, by leaving cert I was in the top class and got student of the year after 6th year. School and education are what you make of it in my experience.

I've also seen lads leave school with poor results and excel in later life due to hard work and commitment. And also the reverse.

No I've never been held back btw :pac: