Mother's friend got a home charger installed €€€€€?

irelandjnr

She paid €5,000 to have it installed and has to pay a yearly fee. What happened?

She lives on a typical Irish estate street with houses all around. I don't know her personally so I didn't ask. I'm just curious what this fee might be. I'm random guessing she was sold a 3-phase home charger and told she'll need to get a wire run to the house where they had to use machines to drag up her driveway for the wire plug box etc. Is this where €5,000 fee came from, would you think? And the yearly fee some kind of commercial 3-phase malarkey.

listermint

you will have to ask her....

irelandjnr

listermint wrote: »

you will have to ask her....

Maybe. Unless someone here has an idea. I'd like to respect her privacy. I heard another friend of a friend who had the same fee, apparently. I'd love to get to the bottom of this nonsense.

MrMusician18

irelandjnr wrote: »

Maybe. Unless someone here has an idea. I'd like to respect her privacy. I heard another friend of a friend who had the same fee, apparently. I'd love to get to the bottom of this nonsense.

Will to get to the bottom of it you'd have to ask them, not us.

liamog

If you are not willing to ask you mother's friend about the details we won't be able to provide any insight or advice.
I'm going to close the thread, as it will just be baseless speculation.

Gumbo

irelandjnr wrote: »

Maybe. Unless someone here has an idea. I'd like to respect her privacy. I heard another friend of a friend who had the same fee, apparently. I'd love to get to the bottom of this nonsense.

The story is nonsense. Friend of a friend nonsense.
I don’t know one single person who paid that u less they got 3 phase cable run to their home and they would have been aware of the costs before agreeing to it.

An EV charger at home is a glorified outdoor socket. Nothing more, nothing less.

unkel

Indeed Gumbo, yet people pay €15k for a basic PV installation that should cost no more than €5k. Plenty of rip-off merchants out there. Beware.

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

Indeed Gumbo, yet people pay €15k for a basic PV installation that should cost no more than €5k. Plenty of rip-off merchants out there. Beware.

I know I know, maybe I should word it not so harsh as it is possible people are getting scammed by it.

OP, try get some details and post them up and we give an honest opinion.

Sheep Shagger

Who would pay 5k for anything without getting a second quote/opinion?

NIMAN

Sound like anti-EV balls to me.

Flippyfloppy

Out of interest, what is the typical price for a home EV charging point?

Shefwedfan

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

Out of interest, what is the typical price for a home EV charging point?

Most around 1k now with 600 back on grant. That will include a charger like Zappi


Pure rip off even at that price but what can you do.....SEAI gratn system is a joke

Flippyfloppy

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Most around 1k now with 600 back on grant. That will include a charger like Zappi


Pure rip off even at that price but what can you do.....SEAI gratn system is a joke

Thank you for letting me know!

JPA

Sounds like BS but scammers take advantage of people when there is a lack of understanding of a subject, whatever the subject.

Shefwedfan

The problem is not pricing around with different companies These guys will try their luck. So it was mentioned about Solar PV. I priced around. Then I was recommended a company from my brother, who was given this name through a scheme he is involved with. So loads of people getting recommendation

Get this lad on phone, knew straight off he was pure chancer. Anyway told him what I would pay and told him exact system. "Oh sure I couldn't get the panel out of the shed for that price". I said ok thank and went to hang up. He went on about how I must be getting a sh*t battery and his was better. Asked him to explain why his was better. Nothing. Then he said the panels where no goodm, I asked what efficiency was his panels, Nothing

So I just said, what will you do it for, 15k. Pure gangsters.

So could she have paid 5k. Certainly.

emeldc

If there is any truth in this, the yearly charge could be the PSO levy for a 3 phase connection which is €10.35 pm when the loading is less than 30kva.

liamog

Doesn't seem like the conversation is going anywhere, OP pm me if you gain more info that you are willing to share, but for now I'm closing the thread.

irelandjnr

I made a recent post here suggesting my mother’s friend (friend M.) had to pay €5,000 to have a wall box charger installed in her driveway here in Waterford. I also mentioned she apparently had to pay some weird yearly fee. As I had never heard of any such crazy costs previously, I was wondering.

I was in a conversation with my mother and another friend of hers (friend L.) going along in a car when L. told me these curious details. I didn’t know the owner of this BEV so decided to ask here.

The update, then: it turns out that none of this information was true. Deducting the incentive she paid out a total of €700 and pays no yearly rental or subscription fee of any kind. She also did not like the car at first (it’s a Leaf) but now that she’s used it for about 5-8 weeks she said she likes it.

I mention because I was accused of fabricating the previous post to spread BEV misinformation, which is completely untrue. The post was locked before I had an opportunity to defend myself. All in all no big deal, just setting the record straight.

Lol just like electricians not certified to do certain work are still doing it and getting the signature off the guy who is certified for a couple of hundred quid, Ireland is a nation of scammers, doesn't matter what you try to get done.

irelandjnr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lol just like electricians not certified to do certain work are still doing it and getting the signature off the guy who is certified for a couple of hundred quid, Ireland is a nation of scammers, doesn't matter what you try to get done.

What are you saying?

return guide

Deleted User wrote: »

Ireland is a nation of scammers, doesn't matter what you try to get done.

Using that rationale, it would make you a scammer too....:P

Like all services there are good and bad, I know a few sparks that I would not let wire a plugtop, but genally speaking sparks are no better or wors than anybody else trying to make a living.

Saying that I am looking for the rigth one to install a charger myself.

NIMAN

irelandjnr wrote: »

I made a recent post here suggesting my mother’s friend (friend M.) had to pay €5,000 to have a wall box charger installed in her driveway here in Waterford. I also mentioned she apparently had to pay some weird yearly fee. As I had never heard of any such crazy costs previously, I was wondering.

I was in a conversation with my mother and another friend of hers (friend L.) going along in a car when L. told me these curious details. I didn’t know the owner of this BEV so decided to ask here.

The update, then: it turns out that none of this information was true. Deducting the incentive she paid out a total of €700 and pays no yearly rental or subscription fee of any kind. She also did not like the car at first (it’s a Leaf) but now that she’s used it for about 5-8 weeks she said she likes it.

I mention because I was accused of fabricating the previous post to spread BEV misinformation, which is completely untrue. The post was locked before I had an opportunity to defend myself. All in all no big deal, just setting the record straight.

So where did the nonsense story come from?

Gumbo

Deleted User wrote: »

Lol just like electricians not certified to do certain work are still doing it and getting the signature off the guy who is certified for a couple of hundred quid, Ireland is a nation of scammers, doesn't matter what you try to get done.

You do realise the story was fictional.

Gumbo

Gumbo wrote: »

You do realise the story was fictional.

Not at the time I posted, however, it wouldn't change what I said about getting work done in Ireland.

irelandjnr

NIMAN wrote: »

So where did the nonsense story come from?

I have the same question.

liamog

irelandjnr wrote: »

I have the same question.

Did your mums friend by a new car? Maybe the wires got crossed between the €5,000 grant for the car and the charger grant.

Technically it's really expensive to get the home charger grant, you have to buy an EV, at least €3,500 based on a carzone search

irelandjnr

liamog wrote: »

Did your mums friend by a new car? Maybe the wires got crossed between the €5,000 grant for the car and the charger grant.

Technically it's really expensive to get the home charger grant, you have to buy an EV, at least €3,500 based on a carzone search

My mother's other friend told me the details (friend L.). And yes, maybe she got confused with the grant somehow. It wasn't helped by the fact that the women knew nothing about electric cars. I said to her that sounds wrong, but I will try to investigate further to see what I find out. Told her I had never heard of any such thing before.

And no, your information about the home charger grant isn't accurate. At least if I am to believe what she told us (friend M.). Said she paid €1,300 for the charger including installation and received a €600 grant from the government. So in total she paid €700. This is what she who got it installed said anyway.

Shefwedfan

irelandjnr wrote: »

My mother's other friend told me the details (friend L.). And yes, maybe she got confused with the grant somehow. It wasn't helped by the fact that the women knew nothing about electric cars. I said to her that sounds wrong, but I will try to investigate further to see what I find out. Told her I had never heard of any such thing before.

And no, your information about the home charger grant isn't accurate. At least if I am to believe what she told us (friend M.). Said she paid €1,300 for the charger including installation and received a €600 grant from the government. So in total she paid €700. This is what she who got it installed said anyway.

What the hell are you talking about?

Widdensushi

Junior is as confused as senior

liamog

irelandjnr wrote: »

And no, your information about the home charger grant isn't accurate. At least if I am to believe what she told us (friend M.). Said she paid €1,300 for the charger including installation and received a €600 grant from the government. So in total she paid €700. This is what she who got it installed said anyway.

She paid roughly the right amount for a home charger, maybe a little on the high side.

I was pointing out that the only way to get the home charger grant is to purchase an EV, no EV purchase = no grant.

rinnin

irelandjnr wrote: »

My mother's other friend told me the details ..... Said she paid €1,300 for the charger including installation and received a €600 grant from the government. So in total she paid €700. This is what she who got it installed said anyway.

€700 is still a fair whack though. €1300 for installation. Are they not only a couple of hundred quid in the UK?

zg3409

rinnin wrote: »

€700 is still a fair whack though. €1300 for installation. Are they not only a couple of hundred quid in the UK?

The UK can be worse. To get the grant there now the charger gas to be smart (built in WiFi) apparently so they can load balance all chargers at a later date, and the charger must have extra earth check built in or its own earth rod or some extra stuff. So the UK grant minimum requirements are higher than ROI. ROI often gets and isolation switch, although many older installs here did not.

In the past a basic charger including labour and vat could be had for 600 all in, now 1000 is typical with Zappi often 1300. There is very few suppliers listing prices online. However in this thread it was just Chinese whispers that got details all wrong.

irelandjnr

zg3409 wrote: »

However in this thread it was just Chinese whispers that got details all wrong.

Exactly what came to mind for me.

Gumbo

irelandjnr wrote: »

Exactly what came to mind for me.

Unfortunately it was the OP who started the whispering.

Gforcemurphy

Jesus he’s getting a bit of a roasting. Sure, he got his wires crossed (or perpetuated someone else’s crossed wires) but there clearly wasn’t anything malicious in it. He came for advice, now he knows what’s what.

Gumbo

Gforcemurphy wrote: »

Jesus he’s getting a bit of a roasting. Sure, he got his wires crossed (or perpetuated someone else’s crossed wires) but there clearly wasn’t anything malicious in it. He came for advice, now he knows what’s what.

I think it was his tone in some comments after that. He proceeded to tell a seasoned poster and EV owner they have the grant system mixed up. Then he posted that he thought it was a Chinese whisper thread but the untruths came from the OP.

Anyway, truth it out now. Hopefully Info was retained and lessons learned.

Shefwedfan

rinnin wrote: »

€700 is still a fair whack though. €1300 for installation. Are they not only a couple of hundred quid in the UK?

In around the standard you will get quoted, probably a zappi etc.....