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Home gym in attic conversion?

  • 28-07-2020 8:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys

    Im looking to set up a home gym for myself here and had been wondering about the attic as a potential place. Would need to have the attic converted and all first, but the main thing on my mind is how much weight could the attic hold?

    A machine Im considering is one of those multi-gym machines where you can have a bench press, cable cross over, squat rack, smyth machine and so on with pre-loaded weights, so a machine could weigh 600-700kgs with a barbell loaded with plates (thats the extreme end for this example/query)

    I had a couple of guys out and they said it would be ok and can be done, however I dont think they got what I was referring to; not a simple bench press and dumbells, this would be a very very heavy weight in a static and compact area (not spread across the attic, located entirely in a single few square metres of space), and there would be other things up there too Im sure, so its not limited to the gym setup

    I would love it, however my mind immediately conjures images of the ceiling collapsing and destroying half of the house and potential the neighbours :eek::o Would appreciate any insight into whether this is possible and something that can be done without issue or if this is not appropriate. The attic at the moment has trusses so will need steel beams installed if that makes a difference

    Thanks


Comments

  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Before you get anymore guys out. you’ll be wanting a structural engineer to comment/design Structure for dead load proposed. No big Deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Flex


    BryanF wrote: »
    Before you get anymore guys out. you’ll be wanting a structural engineer to comment/design Structure for dead load proposed. No big Deal.

    Thanks for the quick reply, I will do that

    When you say no big deal, you mean a conversion being able to support such a static weight is no big deal, or engaging with a structural engineer?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Flex wrote: »
    Thanks for the quick reply, I will do that

    When you say no big deal, you mean a conversion being able to support such a static weight is no big deal, or engaging with a structural engineer?

    Both. One will solve the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Due to the nature of attic conversions, if your house is the standard 2 storey 3/4 bed, I doubt a cable cross over machine will fit. The angle of the roof is very limiting for tall objects like wardrobes etc and gym equipment is no different.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    You mention that the 700kg is an extreme example, it’s not really as when you are not using the weights on the machine, they are on the floor or rack in the room.

    The attic floor will need to be specifically designed for this use, both structurally and aesthetically to limit movement and deflection as you use the gym thus reducing ongoing damage to the plasterboard ceilings in the rooms below.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    I wonder in this attic conservation would you want something like a hardiefloor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Paremon


    I wonder in this attic conservation would you want something like a hardiefloor

    Flex, how did you get on with the structural engineer?

    Not to hijack this thread but to hopefully add to it.
    I'm in a similar boat. New build & i want to use the attic space for a gym & general living area. Attic came 'convertible' with 3/4 inch thick plywood/MDF subfloor over the joists I've just finished converting the attic via local builders however I stupidly didn't specify to them beforehand that I intended to use it in part as a gym. I mentioned it to the builder after the fact & said I'd be using free weights of about 100kg (not much but in hindsight it could get up to about 200kg) & he said 100kg would be fine & to use laminate instead of the vinyl I had intended using, to add some structure & prevent subfloor creaking.

    I'll reach out to the builders again & a structural engineer (an engineer signed off the works as compliant but I think it was a paper exercise only). Hopefully it's not too late.

    Separate from load, from a noise reduction perspective (both noise travelling down to the 1st floor beneath the attic room & noise within the attic room itself), a laminate retailer recommended the following layers from joists upwards;
    existing 3/4" mdf subfloor
    + fibre acoustic flooring
    + plywood (presumably 3/4" thick again)
    + acoustic laminate underlay (v thin)
    + laminate (eg 12mm)
    +gym mat (eg Prosource Puzzle Exercise Mat EVA Foam Interlocking Tiles or better)

    Obviously these 4 layers on top of the existing subfloor would add load in themselves, before any gym equipment/weights are put on top, so ensuring load bearance is key.

    Side question; IF the structural engineer confirms the existing structure is sound for my needs as regards load bearance, would the above layered approach achieve good noise reduction or is there a better way?

    Any help appreciated. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,878 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    IMO, ceilings will flex if you are using weights, free or otherwise.

    for the math
    https://sciencing.com/calculate-force-falling-object-6454559.html

    in addition the sound will travel throughout the house

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Paremon


    IMO, ceilings will flex if you are using weights, free or otherwise.

    for the math
    https://sciencing.com/calculate-force-falling-object-6454559.html

    in addition the sound will travel throughout the original house

    Thanks. I'll likely be speaking with the contractor who did the attic for the developer.

    Re noise travel throughout house; the mentioned multilayered approach would not minimise that? If not, what approach would?


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