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Does carelessness = stupidity?

  • 24-07-2020 3:11pm
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    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,875 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Carelessness or absent mindedness can often lead to catastrophic, disastrous and even fatal consequences. Just go to you tube and type a description of heavy equipment followed by fail to see what I mean. For example 'forklift fail'.

    Is everyone in who caused the accidents in those videos stupid? Some, probably, but I would argue in some cases it was carelessness. The reason for the carelessness could be many and complicated but the person does not necessarily need to be stupid.

    I'm sure there are other examples.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Bigmac1euro


    Overworked and tiredness could be a factor. Don’t think it’s black and white. There’s 100’s of reasons someone’s decision making could be affected leading to catastrophic disaster and sometimes it’s not stupidity or carelessness.
    Tiredness is a massive killer on the roads across the planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,433 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Stupid is as stupid does.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Sometimes it's just rotten luck.

    I've seen a couple of bad accidents in yards and warehouses. Neither of them were being careless, and they were far from stupid. As Forest Gump would say, sometimes "**** happens". (Health & Safety don't like that movie btw:P)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Overworked and tiredness could be a factor. Don’t think it’s black and white. There’s 100’s of reasons someone’s decision making could be affected leading to catastrophic disaster and sometimes it’s not stupidity or carelessness.
    Tiredness is a massive killer on the roads across the planet.
    "I'm tired. I'm so tired I could cause an accident that could kill me or someone else but I'm so stupid I won't take a rest"


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stupidity is very rare, but there are different types of intelligence. If you've ever worked in a large organisation you'll have seen this every day. The wheels wouldn't turn if everyone thought like a secretary, neither would it work without secretaries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭SlowMotion321


    Doesn't matter how smart or stupid you are, sometimes the universe just decides to fcuk you up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    One of the most intelligent guys I've ever worked with was also the most careless.
    Was over qualified for the work he was doing and couldn't be motivated to do any better. Went through the day in a daze.The standard of some of his analysis, reports, etc was poor to say the least.
    Changed jobs, loves the work. Completely different approach and one of the most hardworking and diligent in his department.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Bigmac1euro


    Edgware wrote: »
    "I'm tired. I'm so tired I could cause an accident that could kill me or someone else but I'm so stupid I won't take a rest"

    That’s not really what I meant.
    Your body can be tired and your brain isn’t so you might feel fine but your reaction times are a bit slower.
    For example I feel fine right now and if I got in the car I’d feel fine, it’s 1am though and I’ve had a long week but I’m not ready to fall asleep but I bet my reaction times would be a bit slower without me realising. I’m more likely to make error. Ill probably get into bed now and stare at the ceiling, my body is tired not my mind.
    I watched a programme about tiredness being a massive factor in road deaths in America, mainly younger people travelling to school or college in the morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,077 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Ever heard the phrase “absent-minded professor”? Someone whose mind might be light years away, instead of focused on what’s going on here and now. “Stupid” would be the wrong word to describe such a person.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    What is stupidity?

    I know people who may come across as "stupid" at first glance and when you get to know them, it turns out they just aren't arsed putting in the effort to come across any other way but are very intelligent.

    I've yet to meet a genuinely stupid person, there's always something going on in there.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Stupidity is very rare,
    GooglePlus wrote: »
    I've yet to meet a genuinely stupid person, there's always something going on in there.
    I'd find stupidity not particularly rare myself. Yes you get the people who may appear a bit thick but have other stuff going on, but beyond them yeah I'd meet pretty dense people regularly enough in life. Most people are kind enough to allow for them or hope they've other redeeming features, but thick is common enough.

    I would agree there are different types of intelligence. Things like practical intelligence, "book" intelligence, emotional intelligence(muy importante) adaptive intelligence(about the rarest I've found), artistic intelligence and so on. Even so, right now off the top of my head I can think of two people who score bloody low in all of the above.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,875 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    I think most of us have moments of carelessness that can result in accidents but overall are not too stupid.
    Learn from your mistakes eh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    iamstop wrote: »
    Carelessness or absent mindedness can often lead to catastrophic, disastrous and even fatal consequences. Just go to you tube and type a description of heavy equipment followed by fail to see what I mean. For example 'forklift fail'.

    Is everyone in who caused the accidents in those videos stupid? Some, probably, but I would argue in some cases it was carelessness. The reason for the carelessness could be many and complicated but the person does not necessarily need to be stupid.

    I'm sure there are other examples.

    I might type it into pornhub


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,875 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop




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