BMW 530E 0 UK Import

TWIreland

Hi,

I am looking at purchasing the car below from the UK.
Everthing is in order in terms of documentation from their side but I am not sure on what I have to pay to revenue. Would you be able to tell me if VRT and VAT are due on a car of this mileage or is it just VRT that is payable to revenue. I want to avoid getting caught with hidden fees.

Marque: BMW
Model: 5 SERIES SALOON
Version: 530e xDrive M Sport [Plus pack] 4dr Auto
Model Year: 2019 69
Engine Capacity: 2,000
Mileage: 1,537
Transmission: Automatic
Fuel Type: Petrol/PlugIn Elec Hybrid
Price: £35,000

Cona

I think anything under 5000 miles is liable for VAT on top of the VRT. VRT should be between 2000-2500 for this car (rough estimate)...Would you be willing to take it for a few long spins before presenting to VRT office

colm_mcm

Think it’s only 6,000km requirement which is 3720 miles.
It’s on mileage when it arrives in the state (unverifiable) rather then what’s in the invoice. So drive it!

purpleisafruit

https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/guide-to-vrt/calculating-vrt/vat-and-customs-duty.aspx
According to this it's less than 6 months old or less than 6000 km

colm_mcm

Any of the 2 will qualify it for VAT.

TWIreland

So are we saying that the mileage needs to be above 6000km when entering the state or is it a case of having the mileage at this when i go to the tax office to register (within 30 days). Thanks for the responses its appreciated.

Casati

TWIreland wrote: »

So are we saying that the mileage needs to be above 6000km when entering the state or is it a case of having the mileage at this when i go to the tax office to register (within 30 days). Thanks for the responses its appreciated.

Yes should be less than 6000km entering the state. Of course you can claim the vat back in the UK. I did this myself with a similar situation and the dealer sold it to me vat free for export. They should charge you 35000/1.2 = 29166 and then you will pay Vat at 23% when you register it here

colm_mcm

TWIreland wrote: »

So are we saying that the mileage needs to be above 6000km when entering the state or is it a case of having the mileage at this when i go to the tax office to register (within 30 days). Thanks for the responses its appreciated.

Technically it’s when it enters the state but there’s no way they can know where you did the mileage.

kanuseeme

You will need to do about 4000 km on your journey from the dealer to the vrt office, put the reg into this site if you do not know how old it is, https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/ needs to be 6 months old.

You might still get hidden fee's for any extra's on the car, they will not give you a vrt value there and then, they will call you back with in 10 days and then tell you how much to register the car.

You need to book an appointment within 7 days of the cars entry and bring the car for inspection within 30 days.

Well wear.

TWIreland

The vechile was registered on 07 October 2019 (9 months old). I can get the mileage up between entry and visit to the VRT office. Is it a case that the VRT office will look at the invoivce and take the mileage from here rather than on the car itself or where do they take it from?. I just want to be sure I dont incur additional fees which would put the car out of my price range.

michellie

TWIreland wrote: »

The vechile was registered on 07 October 2019 (9 months old). I can get the mileage up between entry and visit to the VRT office. Is it a case that the VRT office will look at the invoivce and take the mileage from here rather than on the car itself or where do they take it from?. I just want to be sure I dont incur additional fees which would put the car out of my price range.

The mileage will be entered as per the checklist that is done when you present your car at your VRT appointment. Mileage on the invoice doesn't matter. Once it's over 6000km at your VRT appointment you're grand

SummerK

TWIreland wrote: »

The vechile was registered on 07 October 2019 (9 months old). I can get the mileage up between entry and visit to the VRT office. Is it a case that the VRT office will look at the invoivce and take the mileage from here rather than on the car itself or where do they take it from?. I just want to be sure I dont incur additional fees which would put the car out of my price range.

I attended VRT inspection for my 530e couple of days ago and they were interested in car odometer reading. You can buy car and on the day of appointment make sure odo is >6000km and you should be good- Just pay VRT and no VAT.

SummerK

Car like the one you are looking at was available for 32k last month from same dealer. Looks like prices have gone up due to demand.

Here's better spec in same colour for lower price (over 2 grand) from main dealer if you're interested. This has tech pack, comfort pack on top of MSport plus pack.

shorturl.at/wMN78

Casati

TWIreland wrote: »

The vechile was registered on 07 October 2019 (9 months old). I can get the mileage up between entry and visit to the VRT office. Is it a case that the VRT office will look at the invoivce and take the mileage from here rather than on the car itself or where do they take it from?. I just want to be sure I dont incur additional fees which would put the car out of my price range.

Why don’t you reclaim the UK vat and pay the Irish vat? It will cost you 3% extra on the purchase price but you won’t be under pressure or at risk being caught out if they check the miles on the paperwork

Cona

Not to de-rail this too much, but I’ve been looking at 530e for a while now. The main thing putting me off them is reliability. For example, a year down the line when warranty is out, what happens if the electrical drivetrain gives issues? It’s probably only BMW main dealer that you could go to with a very large tub of Vaseline in hand. Any thoughts?

User1998

Thats everyones fear at first but if you do a bit of research you’ll find that the electric drivetrain just doesn’t fail in plug in hybrids no matter what the brand. It would probably be one of the most reliable things about the car. Fair enough early Toyota/Nissan had some issues but apart from that theres not much else to talk about

Cona

User1998 wrote: »

Thats everyones fear at first but if you do a bit of research you’ll find that the electric drivetrain just doesn’t fail in plug in hybrids no matter what the brand. It would probably be one of the most reliable things about the car. Fair enough early Toyota/Nissan had some issues but apart from that theres not much else to talk about

Thanks, never even researched it to be honest, must take a look.

shnaek

User1998 wrote: »

Thats everyones fear at first but if you do a bit of research you’ll find that the electric drivetrain just doesn’t fail in plug in hybrids no matter what the brand. It would probably be one of the most reliable things about the car. Fair enough early Toyota/Nissan had some issues but apart from that theres not much else to talk about

I heard from a friend in the UK that the batteries have to be replaced roughly every 5 years at a cost of 8k - is this true?

SummerK

shnaek wrote: »

I heard from a friend in the UK that the batteries have to be replaced roughly every 5 years at a cost of 8k - is this true?

I read Batteries have 6 year warranty and if charge capacity goes below 70%(or 60%) during this time then bmw will replace it for free. It’s advisable to buy extended warranty for peace of mind.

kanuseeme

shnaek wrote: »

I heard from a friend in the UK that the batteries have to be replaced roughly every 5 years at a cost of 8k - is this true?

I have heard this from lots of sources, I can say my phev battery is at around 95% at 5 years old.

The only batteries I know of that are depleted to any extent are early Nissan leaf batteries, I would be only guessing how bad they are.

It really does not matter with a phev, if a new car does 50 km and one 5 years old with 50% only does 25 km, it will just mean your burning extra petrol hardly worth 8 k for a few litres of petrol.

Stallingrad

Cona wrote: »

Not to de-rail this too much, but I’ve been looking at 530e for a while now. The main thing putting me off them is reliability. For example, a year down the line when warranty is out, what happens if the electrical drivetrain gives issues? It’s probably only BMW main dealer that you could go to with a very large tub of Vaseline in hand. Any thoughts?

BMW still haven't figured out how to make an ICE reliable, sure what could go wrong with bolting on an electrical drive train?

Cona

Stallingrad wrote: »

BMW still haven't figured out how to make an ICE reliable, sure what could go wrong with bolting on an electrical drive train?

Hmmm....would the 5 series have a poor reliability record? I have heard lots of stories about BMW but I tend to write off a lot of them.

mickdw

The ONLY way to run one is with extended bmw warranty.
The costs could be absolutely eye watering otherwise and as you say, little option but to use dealer.
I had one bought there last christmas but it wasnt up to standard so put off awhile now with covid but it will have to have alot of warranty left and then go on extended warranty.

Wailin

Stallingrad wrote: »

BMW still haven't figured out how to make an ICE reliable, sure what could go wrong with bolting on an electrical drive train?

Getting a bit old now isn't it? They are no more or less reliable than the equivalent mercedes/audis etc there just happens to be a lot more of them about due to their popularity.

TWIreland

I am debating now about petrol/hybrid or diesel for the 5 series. I'm looking for a high spec 2019 but will be putting up mileage of around 700-800km a week for the next year at least. What would you recommend?.

unhappys10

Stallingrad wrote: »

BMW still haven't figured out how to make an ICE reliable, sure what could go wrong with bolting on an electrical drive train?

Have a 2016 520d, 2 years and 40k miles with me, 97k miles on the clock and hasn't missed a beat. Just because the horror stories are talked about a lot.

extra-ordinary_

Wailin wrote: »

Getting a bit old now isn't it? They are no more or less reliable than the equivalent mercedes/audis etc there just happens to be a lot more of them about due to their popularity.

Have a look at...

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/peugeot-named-as-most-dependable-car-brand-in-uk-by-jd-power-1.3887615


"with BMW actually coming last, behind even Fiat."

colm_mcm

Wailin wrote: »

Getting a bit old now isn't it? They are no more or less reliable than the equivalent mercedes/audis etc there just happens to be a lot more of them about due to their popularity.

They’re massively off the standards of Lexus for example.

Heres Johnny

I've a newsih a6 and a newish golf in the house now but prior to that I had 6 BMWs and they were all pretty reliable despite some of them being 10 + years old. 2 x E46s, 2 x e39s, e60, f10
and not a bother on any of them. Same as the 2 from VAG now. I'll be sticking with audi or BMW next car, happy enough with them

Stallingrad

Wailin wrote: »

Getting a bit old now isn't it? They are no more or less reliable than the equivalent mercedes/audis etc there just happens to be a lot more of them about due to their popularity.

It may be old but it's correct. Now that you mention it Audi and Mercedes, like BMW, are firmly at the bottom of reliability surveys.

bazz26

Premium cars can still have expensive repair bills irrespective of how affordable they are to buy when few years old. If your not comfortable with that then stick to something else.

mickey15ie

SummerK wrote: »

I attended VRT inspection for my 530e couple of days ago and they were interested in car odometer reading. You can buy car and on the day of appointment make sure odo is >6000km and you should be good- Just pay VRT and no VAT.

Do you mind me asking how much the vrt was?

What figure do you put in for the NoX emissions?

SummerK

mickey15ie wrote: »

Do you mind me asking how much the vrt was?

What figure do you put in for the NoX emissions?

Hi, I recall vrt was little over €2400. nox is 0.001g/km and nox charge was €5. Mine is Msport with comfort package.

dickdasr1234

Premium vehicles are always going to be well down the list, likely as they are to have a greater complexity.

Reliability for me:

1. Does it start? 2. Does it keep going?

Had a Mini for 18 years that never once failed to start on the first turn.

Peugeot finish top?

Gimme a break!

dickdasr1234

bazz26 wrote: »

Premium cars can still have expensive repair bills irrespective of how affordable they are to buy when few years old. If your not comfortable with that then stick to something else.

Have I not read elsewhere on boards that a comprehensive BMW warranty costs about €400 annually?

bazz26

dickdasr1234 wrote: »

Have I not read elsewhere on boards that a comprehensive BMW warranty costs about €400 annually?

You must have read it wrong. €400 will not get you much of a warranty on a BMW unless it's some basic warranty from the likes of car protect, etc. I priced an extended BMW warranty on a 530d a few years ago and the basic warranty was costing around €800 and the most comprehensive was closer to 1k.

dickdasr1234

bazz26 wrote: »

You must have read it wrong. €400 will not get you much of a warranty on a BMW unless it's some basic warranty from the likes of car protect, etc. I priced an extended BMW warranty on a 530d a few years ago and the basic warranty was costing around €800 and the most comprehensive was closer to 1k.

Anybody know what the basic warranty cost is for a 118d?

SummerK

dickdasr1234 wrote: »

Anybody know what the basic warranty cost is for a 118d?

You can drop an email to bmwwarrantysales@allianz-assistance.ie to know actual cost.

If mileage is <1,00,000KM then I guess it would be €350-400 and add another €100-€150 if mileage is more than one hundred k.