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Cheap crowns

  • 22-07-2020 3:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭


    I have two teeth I think need crowns .

    One is a molar (it has been root canalled) and the other is about 4 teeth from the centre (upper left)

    I see prices around 800 or more in Galway.

    Can I get this done cheaper in Dublin or the North?

    Am I likely to need return trips ?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    amandstu wrote: »
    I have two teeth I think need crowns .

    One is a molar (it has been root canalled) and the other is about 4 teeth from the centre (upper left)

    I see prices around 800 or more in Galway.

    Can I get this done cheaper in Dublin or the North?

    Am I likely to need return trips ?

    Yes you'll find cheaper places in both Dublin/North, but you'll probably need 3 if not more trips up, so diesel, time etc is a cost

    IMO 800 is average


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    amandstu wrote: »
    I have two teeth I think need crowns .

    One is a molar (it has been root canalled) and the other is about 4 teeth from the centre (upper left)

    I see prices around 800 or more in Galway.

    Can I get this done cheaper in Dublin or the North?

    Am I likely to need return trips ?

    Cheap work isnt good, good work isnt cheap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Fishorsealant


    The only thing more expensive than an expensive crown is a cheap crown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I seem to be getting smug words of wisdom rather than any specific advice.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    amandstu wrote: »
    I seem to be getting smug words of wisdom rather than any specific advice.

    Google is your friend, lots of Clinics have websites with fees pages.

    Minimum 3 visits to have crowns, (Exam/tooth preparation/fit appointment) so factor in time and cost of travel for these.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Google is your friend, lots of Clinics have websites with fees pages.

    Minimum 3 visits to have crowns, (Exam/tooth preparation/fit appointment) so factor in time and cost of travel for these.

    Yes ,I was wondering about possible repeat visits.Probably a deal breaker since I have no need to go either to Dublin or the North in the normal course of things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    amandstu wrote: »
    I seem to be getting smug words of wisdom rather than any specific advice.

    You got good advice it is up to you to use it. the biggest part are the materials. If it is considerably cheaper that means they are cutting corners in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    You got good advice it is up to you to use it. the biggest part are the materials. If it is considerably cheaper that means they are cutting corners in the country.

    Actually I’d more say that the most important factor is the person doing the job.
    I’ve seen better temporary crowns than some permanent crowns!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    Going to the north is a good option.
    The prices in the south can be ridiculous and totally unaffordable.
    The dental is work in the North is as good as here in the south.

    But you will have to add up the cost of travel time off work etc.
    Sometimes its well worh the trip sometimes its not.
    Sounds to me your need at least 2 to 3 vists.
    Book an appointment with a local Dentist get a price then go to the north and do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    mick087 wrote: »
    Going to the north is a good option.
    The prices in the south can be ridiculous and totally unaffordable.
    The dental is work in the North is as good as here in the south.

    But you will have to add up the cost of travel time off work etc.
    Sometimes its well worh the trip sometimes its not.
    Sounds to me your need at least 2 to 3 vists.
    Book an appointment with a local Dentist get a price then go to the north and do the same.

    "....in your opinion...."

    OP when comparing prices, don't do man maths to engineer the answer that you are after....
    If comparing prices then please compare the price of a specialist job here with the cost of a specialist job elsewhere and the cost of a budget clinic crown here with the cost of a budget clinic elsewhere....

    Often patients are told by a clinic down south that a price is x and then look for the cheapest alternative up north or abroad... The reality is that there is often a cheaper alternative closer to home.... But then you must accept that the job will be inferior....! It is often easier to say that the reason why a job up north or elsewhere is cheaper is because southern dentists are greedy, not as easy to accept that a cheap job anywhere is cheap for a reason.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭amandstu


    So ,if as I am inclined I stay close to home what are my options as regards cheaper crowns versus more expensive ones?

    If the cosmetic appearance is not important to me can I choose materials that are significantly cheaper ,such as metal amalgam ,especially as one tooth is a molar?


    Is there a significant saving to be made like that or are we just talking in the region of 10% or 20% less ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭Apollinaris


    amandstu wrote: »
    So ,if as I am inclined I stay close to home what are my options as regards cheaper crowns versus more expensive ones?

    If the cosmetic appearance is not important to me can I choose materials that are significantly cheaper ,such as metal amalgam ,especially as one tooth is a molar?


    Is there a significant saving to be made like that or are we just talking in the region of 10% or 20% less ?

    For significant savings you have to travel abroad, but in these times that is very difficult. Irish dentistry if I can call it like that is mediocre/medieval and extremely expensive. Your basic crown option is a metal base crown with a ceramic cover. The metal could irritate your gums causing a permanent inflammations. Zirconium crowns the way to go but as I said you must travel, not only to save money but to get the job properly done. I’m speaking from experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Pythagorean


    My dentist quoted me 500 euro for a metal crown for a molar, I went back a few months later and she told me that that price was unrealistic, and that the cost to her to get the crown made would be 500, so the final cost of the job would be 800 odd. Some dentists offer the Cerec option, instant crown, made by 3D printing, and fitted straight away. Might be worth considering, I was quoted around 800 for this, much the same as a regular crown job.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    For significant savings you have to travel abroad, but in these times that is very difficult. Irish dentistry if I can call it like that is mediocre/medieval and extremely expensive. Your basic crown option is a metal base crown with a ceramic cover. The metal could irritate your gums causing a permanent inflammations. Zirconium crowns the way to go but as I said you must travel, not only to save money but to get the job properly done. I’m speaking from experience.

    But not necessarily from an informed position.

    Bonded crowns, or porcelain fused to metal are still the most commonly used crowns for posterior teeth worldwide, not just in Ireland. To use them is not considered mediocre or medieval by any recognised standard. In fact, to limit your use to only the more modern materials is to limit consideration of what is best for a patient’s individual needs.

    While zirconium crowns are popular, they need to be a certain thickness in order to have comparable strength and durability to a porcelain fused to metal crown and are not indicated in all cases where the patient grinds or needs bridgework. They are opaque and can have poor aesthetics even for back teeth. Also, the inner surface of a zirconium crown is quite abrasive and can scratch the prepared dentine.

    It is true that some people are allergic to certain metals, this is very rare, in nearly 30 years I never never had a patient who has had an allergic reaction to a crown and I’ve placed tens of thousands. The most common cause of irritation around crowns is over extended margins and poor oral hygiene. Posterior bonded crowns can actually be made with finer margins than zirconium crowns so can often be less irritating to soft tissues. The zirconium crowns require a thicker marginal cross section otherwise they fracture on placement or due to load/wear, this means drilling away more of the tooth.

    Dentists should offer all types of crowns as different teeth and bite loads require particular prosthesis, to discount certain types is to do a disservice to your patients and potentially lead to unnecessary and unwanted failures. Most dentists here offer zirconium crowns, but only where indicated, they have been around here for a long time in various forms, they just might be new where you got them.


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