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Weighing Scales

  • 20-07-2020 1:13pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭


    Any recommendations for a weighing scales just to keep track of weight gain etc.

    One that fits a crush


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    No recommendation but frs will let you rent out weigh scalesfor 50 quid or thereabouts I think if it's something you'll only do once or twice in the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Biscuitus


    Buying a weighing scale was a very worthwhile purchase last year. I didn't realise how much I was under dosing. Having all the exact numbers for doing pour-on/drenches and being able to tell the vet the cow is 780kgs has helped a lot. I'll find the name of the weight scales I use this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭thetiredfarmer


    Make sure you get one with well insulated thick cables to help protect it from water and slurry. I have pencil thin cables on my scales and it is constantly absorbing water through tiny cracks or nicks in the outer coating which leaves it useless and I have to get the complete weigh cell replaced each time because its a "Sealed" unit. Not cheap.:mad:You only find out its broken when you want to use it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    I have an ONeills one since the ploughing in was in New Ross. 2012 or 2013

    No issues in fairness with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,209 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    How do you know if the weighing cell is gone?
    Ours was working perfect, moved it to friends yard and now display is showing 0kg no matter what’s put on the platform.
    Have got cable and display checked out & both ok


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭The11Duff


    Have a connaught agri one. Fits in the crush. Good job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,834 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    How do you know if the weighing cell is gone?
    Ours was working perfect, moved it to friends yard and now display is showing 0kg no matter what’s put on the platform.
    Have got cable and display checked out & both ok

    Wonder if you switch it off. Disconnect a cell, switch it back on what does it show ??
    I’d try each one to see if the result is different for any ??

    The other thing I’d wonder is the reading locked somehow ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,209 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    _Brian wrote: »
    Wonder if you switch it off. Disconnect a cell, switch it back on what does it show ??
    I’d try each one to see if the result is different for any ??

    The other thing I’d wonder is the reading locked somehow ??
    Might try that
    It’s all connected to a motherboard (4 in & 1 out)
    Can you get a connector to bypass the motherboard and join the wires together?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    How much is a scales roughly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,209 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Dunedin wrote: »
    How much is a scales roughly.

    About €1400 I think


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭jntsnk


    DIY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Gudstock


    jntsnk wrote: »
    DIY

    Any more info on this project??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,209 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Might try that
    It’s all connected to a motherboard (4 in & 1 out)
    Can you get a connector to bypass the motherboard and join the wires together?

    Got it fixed
    Bypassed motherboard


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We got a Tru test scales, mighty job has Bluetooth to link to the phone so can pull all weights in as you go and then link to the online account which you can pull all your herd info in from Agfood and link the weights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭jntsnk


    Gudstock wrote: »
    Any more info on this project??

    Just bought the weigh beams . Made by own floor to fit my crush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭MfMan


    jntsnk wrote: »
    Just bought the weigh beams . Made by own floor to fit my crush.

    Where d'you get 'em?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I got some from Amazon.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Industrial-Warehouse-Weighing-Digital-Livestock/dp/B00OZUFO52/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=weigh+beams&qid=1597666387&sr=8-1

    I haven't used them yet, to recommend them or not, but im going to use them under a portable crush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    Can those be registered for BEEP weighing do you know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Can those be registered for BEEP weighing do you know?

    I’ve registered mine, so yes, but it may need to be inspected at some stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭jntsnk


    MfMan wrote: »
    Where d'you get 'em?

    Got them on eBay. Been using them weighing stores and factory cattle prior to slaughter for the last 2 years. No issue. Often weigh silage bales also with a pallet on the beams. Handy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    jntsnk wrote: »
    Just bought the weigh beams . Made by own floor to fit my crush.

    What did you make the platform for it out of? Any pics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭jntsnk


    What did you make the platform for it out of? Any pics.

    Heavy timber lying around. Scaffolding planks and sorts. Strong timber needed. Picture in previous posts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Bought a set of those pallet scales off ebay for 300e, got a length of channel and a length of angle iron and moved all the bits over. Just have to put on a bit of cheequered plate now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Gudstock


    Bought a set of those pallet scales off ebay for 300e, got a length of channel and a length of angle iron and moved all the bits over. Just have to put on a bit of cheequered plate now.

    Great project! Really looking forward to see the finished product.
    Will it be left in place or will it be moved?
    Could you put up a link for the ebay item please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Bought a set of those pallet scales off ebay for 300e, got a length of channel and a length of angle iron and moved all the bits over. Just have to put on a bit of cheequered plate now.

    Looks like a fine strong job! Heavy I’d say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Gudstock wrote: »
    Great project! Really looking forward to see the finished product.
    Will it be left in place or will it be moved?
    Could you put up a link for the ebay item please?

    I have a few crushes and the are all outside so it will be moved around and I'll keep it inside when I'm not using it, had to make it a bit narrower to fit in the old crush at home. Going to weight the calves next week and might take the bits off and get it galvanised then if it works alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Looks like a fine strong job! Heavy I’d say

    It would want it all I'd say, used 3" channel and there's still a small bit of flex when I was jumping up and down in the middle of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Well it works anyway, weighed the in calf heifers this evening with it and no problems. Heavy hoor of a thing though weighing in at 78kg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Good job. Any need to put handles inside the pads if you want to move it around?
    Two people carrying 40 kilos each.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,834 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    We bought similar off Amazon and made a checker plate platform for the weigh cells.
    All in I think it stands €350

    Had it out yesterday doing a weigh run and it works a dream. Even weighed the pony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Farmer_3650


    Well it works anyway, weighed the in calf heifers this evening with it and no problems. Heavy hoor of a thing though weighing in at 78kg.


    Did you cut the weigh beams into halves? Mabye its just my sight but they look very short compared to the ones in the ebay link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Did you cut the weigh beams into halves? Mabye its just my sight but they look very short compared to the ones in the ebay link.

    I didn't use the beams at all, I took the weight cells off them and put them on the frame I made up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Heavy hoor of a thing though weighing in at 78kg.

    I was thinking that alright when i seen you build pics. Could you add 2 castors to the sides for moving it. You would have to flip it over 180 degrees though to wheel it away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Farmer_3650


    I didn't use the beams at all, I took the weight cells off them and put them on the frame I made up.

    Oh I see, I didn't realise they could be seperated. Very nice job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    I didn't use the beams at all, I took the weight cells off them and put them on the frame I made up.

    Thats a great job. Project for the winter for me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,209 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    LC - is your platform separate to the frame? From looking at it would some lips at the side keep the beast from sliding off the side? - a bit like this (£985 inc VAT!!!):

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    Do they stand okay on the threadplate or would some corrugations help prevent slipping after a few animals have been up and dirtied it?

    Ours is similar and no issue with slip
    It’s no harm to rinse down after each use


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭pure breed


    I didn't use the beams at all, I took the weight cells off them and put them on the frame I made up.

    Hi Limestone,
    Can I ask how did you attach the weight cells to the new frame you made?
    It looks a great job from your pic.
    What have you on top? I mean what are cattle standing on?
    Hope to do something similar here for under 400 euros.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Intend following LC too and buying online. The guy who does my welding and will make the stand mentioned the need to have wings to keep the cattle legs on, not slipping down the side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Water John wrote: »
    Intend following LC too and buying online. The guy who does my welding and will make the stand mentioned the need to have wings to keep the cattle legs on, not slipping down the side.

    Every blooming one of them will put a back leg on the wing and throw the weight off. You get the leg off the wing and they put it straight back up again.. Go flat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I think the edge plate he intends is a narrow edge sloping in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Every blooming one of them will put a back leg on the wing and throw the weight off. You get the leg off the wing and they put it straight back up again.. Go flat

    I think the edge plate he intends is a narrow edge sloping in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    One like that in image above shouldn't have that problem and will avoid the hooves slipping off the side too. All it needs is a small lip to stop the sliding off when they are wrestling on it.

    I wonder would a darker colour be better than the bright chequer plate - might be less spooked by a dark colour - and a small step onto it.

    My main concern is the robustness of these scales with a dynamic load as them are design for static loads.

    putting straw on the platform definitely helps with getting them onto it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭emaherx



    My main concern is the robustness of these scales with a dynamic load as them are design for static loads.

    There is a stable weight indicator on the scales I got, it comes on when the animal settles down. But even if the odd one dosen't fully settle down you might get the weight only varying by a few kilo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭MfMan


    putting straw on the platform definitely helps with getting them onto it.

    Or a spare slat mat, if any to hand. Only adds a few Kg to the weight. Beware of the scale (eventually) leaning down a bit into the electronic data cable. Mine was doing this for a while before I copped it. Had to prop the legs higher with a couple of 2x4s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Thanks for the help here lads. Bought online and local made up the platform to fit in my crush. The platform rides on the beams, €450/500 all in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Water John wrote: »
    Thanks for the help here lads. Bought online and local made up the platform to fit in my crush. The platform rides on the beams, €450/500 all in.

    Its a small investment really and the scheme has paid for it already. The fact that you can weigh in small groups as you like is priceless especially if your land is disjointed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭jntsnk


    Water John wrote: »
    Thanks for the help here lads. Bought online and local made up the platform to fit in my crush. The platform rides on the beams, €450/500 all in.

    Any pics of platform?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Sorry must try loading pics again. Failed anytime I've tried before. Didn't have it in for TAMS.


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